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Oversize Lifters - Benefits & Disadvantages?

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#1 ·
I'm putting together a new LS2-430 engine for road racing with solid roller lifters in bushed bores and have the option of .905" diameter lifters. It is getting set-up for continued 7500+ RPM use.

What kind of advantages should I have over standard .842" diameter lifters? I expect the camshaft duration might change, and stability in the bore is better, but what else?

I would like to hear from those who have used larger diameter lifters.

Thanks in advance!
 
#4 ·
Going to the .905 will give you the opportunity to have a cam cut specifically for the larger wheel diameter. You can run a much more aggressive lobe, while keeping the same pressure angle. This will give you the ability to shorten the seat and .050 numbers, while increasing the .100 and .200 and up numbers with no ill effects at the lobe interface.....providing that the rest of the valvetrain is up to snuff. Or.....if you just drop them on a lobe cut for an .842 lifter with it's .750 wheel, you'll lower the pressure angle by a large margin and increase the lifespan of the lifter by way of less stress at the lobe interface. If the budget allows, having a cam designed for the larger wheel diameter is a great benefit though. Bore stability is another benefit. The only "disadvantage" would be a slight increase in cost. Beyond that, as chris stated, there isn't any disadvantage.
 
#5 ·
As said, cost of added machining, special cam, and higher priced lifters. The only other I have heard mentioned was the bigger lifters weigh more, but with the added stability this will never be seen by the valve spring. If you have the chance, do it. You will not regret it.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Kewl, tanks for the feedback! Good details Enigma.
Now I'm trying to decide between three different brands of solid roller lifters.
Crane, Jesel, or CompCams. There appear some differences in surface treatment, but I need to check on weight.
 
#10 · (Edited)
Jesel lifter are probably the best there sizing is spot on and they are round and straight, There .904 lifters run a little compared to a Morel lifter but they are DLC coated. TOP OF THE LINE!!!!

Second would be Morel as I have never had to send a set back becaus of sizing issues.

Third would be ISKY but I have to say it has always taken 2 set to make one set of lifter because of sizing issues per set.

Crower I have not been very happy with there sizing go over this link.
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423501

What ever lifter you buy check it for roundness, straightness and make sure its fit to the lifter bores and I look for .0014 to .0019 for lifter bore clearance.

Its amazing how many guys just buy lifters and dump them into the bores without measuring anything

Good luck which ever way you go!!
 
#11 ·
I'm a Jesel dealer... I've sold over 80+ sets of the Solid Body lifters, with not one failure yet. But I always advise customer when their doing there build too oversize them for their application....
 
#17 · (Edited)
How many guys with ls engines are running the over-sized solid lifters? Last I heard the concern with them in the ls engine is having so little material left in the block around the over-sized lifters. I'm waiting on a nasty little lsx for an F3 blower and the builders chose to stick with .842s. (Isky red zone)

just saw that this over 6 months old..any news OP?
 
#19 ·
Id recommend the standard bore Isky EZX or EZMAX... Non needle bearing lifters.. EZX (good for 1100lbs open).. EZMAX (good for 1400lbs open).... I run a standard bore EZX in my motor, .900 lift and 7800 through the traps... No issues whatsoever... I sell a lot of these. Glad to help. ;) .... but no, there's no disadvantage, just not always needed.