[FASTFATBOY]

LOL

Henry is a paid antagonist.

He is also deluded, my guess is he was raised in the church by his parents and is 100% brain washed,

 

[DeepBrainThrombosis]

“all knees shall bend, all tongues shall confess……..”

Do you know just how stupid posts like this are?

 

[Jbone]

“all knees shall bend, all tongues shall confess……..”

Mine won't.

 

[HenryFloored]

Mine won't.

Of course not.

 

[FASTFATBOY]

I wonder where god was when a guy shot up and burned down a church?

On a smoke break?

 

[Jbone]

Of course not.

Why would I?

 

[DeepBrainThrombosis]

I wonder where god was when a guy shot up and burned down a church?

On a smoke break?

Same place he was every time a pastor molested a child. That was his will, after all. All seeing, all knowing, yet did nothing to stop it.

Im fact, when you compare his “miracles” with his obviously indifferent moments, I’d say it’s a perfect 50/50 split down the middle. Rather convenient, I say.

 

[FASTFATBOY]

Same place he was every time a pastor molested a child. That was his will, after all. All seeing, all knowing, yet did nothing to stop it.

Im fact, when you compare his “miracles” with his obviously indifferent moments, I’d say it’s a perfect 50/50 split down the middle. Rather convenient, I say.

"But but my wife prayed for a good mortgage rate and got it."

Deluded fuckers I tell ya.

 

[HenryFloored]

FFB you are stuck on the so called “problem of evil” and rightly so. It’s the most confusing issue that stands in the way of one’s ability to accept God.

I totally understand where you are coming from and I hope someday you can make peace with it.

Imagine though if evil and good did not exist. See you really can’t have one without the other.

Your answers are in the teachings of Jesus. They are there. If you want to find them you have to look.

I’m praying that you do find your answers friend.

 

[HenryFloored]

Here’s a little primer.

Scriptures dealing with the problem of evil

 

[FASTFATBOY]

God either sees all, knows all, is intrinsically good, has a plan and is in control 100% of the time as deluded religious say constantly or he isn't.

You can't have it both ways, sorry.

 

[HenryFloored]

God either sees all, knows all, is intrinsically good, has a plan and is in control 100% of the time as deluded religious say constantly or he isn't.

You can't have it both ways, sorry.

He is omnipresent that’s for sure. The fact that we are independent and individuals with free will by definition means that God does not intervene.

That said I believe miracles do happen and that can be proven but for the most part our relationship with God is spiritual and not material in nature.

That’s a big reason why guys like Jdogg don’t get it. Some people need to see God in a test tube or under a microscope or else they stand there with their arms folded and stomp their feet saying “see I told you so!”

My thing is if you can’t figure it out by looking intently at God’s handiwork (us and everything beautiful on earth and across the universe) then you got a tough row to hoe.

 

[FASTFATBOY]

More word salad, same ol deluded bullshit.

 

[HenryFloored]

More word salad, same ol deluded bullshit.

What’s if I liked Chevys? Would you change your tune then?

I laid out a perfectly reasonable post that maybe we could build on. You know, have a conversation but nope you have disdain for anything I say.

Listen man you’re starting to remind me of a left wing radical intent on hating Trump. Trump could cure cancer and the left would still bitch about it.

It’s okay though brother, you never met me in real life so you have no way of knowing how serious I am. If you think how I play around on this forum is who I am you’re sadly mistaken.

I’ll tell you straight brother I’m so fucking serious right now you wouldn’t believe it.

Also I like discussing things with people who don’t agree with me necessarily. I like a full throated debate from time to time. Probably not with you because you never address of the substance of my comments you just try to make me look stupid frankly.

Understand I couldn’t care less if you make me look stupid. I know who I am and I know what I know. You want to call this word salad so be it. Looks like plain English to me.

The message is there is a loving God waiting for you and me. All you have to do is accept and receive Him into your heart. Your doubts and questions will all be answered in time friend. Bank on it.

 

[HenryFloored]

Ol’ DBT is going to wear down that laughing emoji button on his laptop.

You want to know what I think about that? I think you’re a damn fool for laughing in the face of God. It’s time someone told you.

You can be the prick all day long everyday on other threads that’s fine with me but it’s really stupid to come off like that in a thread like this.

Do better.

 

[DeepBrainThrombosis]

Ol’ DBT is going to wear down that laughing emoji button on his laptop.

You want to know what I think about that? I think you’re a damn fool for laughing in the face of God. It’s time someone told you.

You can be the prick all day long everyday on other threads that’s fine with me but it’s really stupid to come off like that in a thread like this.

Do better.

This “god” you believe in isn’t real. Let’s just get that out of the way. The very concept of god and religion and faith and “belief” is more worthy of scorn and ridicule than ANYTHING else, since organized religion has done more damage and poisoned more minds than ANYTHING else in the history of the human race. I would wear my fingers out all the way down to the palms of my hands if I typed out all the scorn and ridicule that all organized religions deserve.

The very fact that this discussion/debate has to be had at all is a blight on the human race. The fact that we have not yet gotten over this massive mental straight jacket as a society is embarrassing in the extreme. I will never stop calling it out for the pure man-made horseshit that it is, and will absolutely mock your “god” and jesus and everything else related at every available opportunity.

Christopher Hitchens said it best, in a debate with the insufferably awful Frank Turek: “So when I say, as the subtitle of my book, that I think religion poisons everything, I’m not just doing what publishers like and coming up with a provocative subtitle, I mean to say it infects us in our most basic integrity. It says we can’t be moral without Big Brother, without a totalitarian permission. It means we can’t be good to one another, it means we can't think without this. We must be afraid, we must also be forced to love someone who we fear, the essence of sado-masochism and the essence of abjection, the essence of the master-slave relationship and that knows that death is coming and can’t wait to bring it on. I say this is evil. And though I do, some nights, stay at home, I enjoy more the nights when I go out and fight against this ultimate wickedness and ultimate stupidity.”

 

[HenryFloored]

This “god” you believe in isn’t real. Let’s just get that out of the way. The very concept of god and religion and faith and “belief” is more worthy of scorn and ridicule than ANYTHING else, since organized religion has done more damage and poisoned more minds than ANYTHING else in the history of the human race. I would wear my fingers out all the way down to the palms of my hands if I typed out all the scorn and ridicule that all organized religions deserve.

The very fact that this discussion/debate has to be had at all is a blight on the human race. The fact that we have not yet gotten over this massive mental straight jacket as a society is embarrassing in the extreme. I will never stop calling it out for the pure man-made horseshit that it is, and will absolutely mock your “god” and jesus and everything else related at every available opportunity.

Christopher Hitchens said it best, in a debate with the insufferably awful Frank Turek: “So when I say, as the subtitle of my book, that I think religion poisons everything, I’m not just doing what publishers like and coming up with a provocative subtitle, I mean to say it infects us in our most basic integrity. It says we can’t be moral without Big Brother, without a totalitarian permission. It means we can’t be good to one another, it means we can't think without this. We must be afraid, we must also be forced to love someone who we fear, the essence of sado-masochism and the essence of abjection, the essence of the master-slave relationship and that knows that death is coming and can’t wait to bring it on. I say this is evil. And though I do, some nights, stay at home, I enjoy more the nights when I go out and fight against this ultimate wickedness and ultimate stupidity.”

Christopher Hitchens was one of the greatest orators of our time but he was simply wrong. Even a child can figure this out, I’m surprised you have jumped into that rabbit hole.

Mr. Hitchens was one of the four horseman of the “new” atheism which arose immediately following 9/11. In fact some would say he was the leader.

Where is so called new atheism now? It was doomed from its inception primarily because there was no where to go after the clever debating skills of a few of its best spokesmen.

The inherent problem with atheism is that those poor folks are just wrong. Makes for good debates though.

 

[DeepBrainThrombosis]

Christopher Hitchens was one of the greatest orators of our time but he was simply wrong. Even a child can figure this out, I’m surprised you have jumped into that rabbit hole.

Mr. Hitchens was one of the four horseman of the “new” atheism which arose immediately following 9/11. In fact some would say he was the leader.

Where is so called new atheism now? It was doomed from its inception primarily because there was no where to go after the clever debating skills of a few of its best spokesmen.

The inherent problem with atheism is that those poor folks are just wrong. Makes for good debates though.

You don’t even know what you’re arguing against. You talk as though atheism is just another form of dogma. Atheism is not a belief system, it is a lack of belief in bullshit religions and gods that have no basis in reality. “Where is it now” is an utterly stupid question that shows you don’t even understand the concept.

You talk about this like it’s a fad, and your nonsensical posts before about my “20 year old” talking points also shows how clueless you are. Pointing out facts and reality is ageless - it doesn’t make any difference where or when it is said, it matters what is right and what is wrong.

Goobers who try to dismiss facts and reality with stylized talking points dismiss men like Hitchens as “new atheists” like it means anything, because you know you can’t argue against him on the merits of his actual points. Just like you can’t with me. Pointing out the logical fallacies of religion and god is extremely easy, ageless and it matters not who says it. Lumping some recent particularly outspoken atheists and anti-theists into a box as if they’re the only ones who so believe is the absolute height of ignorance. Not only are these men not alone in their beliefs and thoughts, but they are not new either. The two primary differences between them and many men that came hundreds or thousands of years before is that we have two things now that men who came before them didn’t: A) easy access to television and other media to spread their message, and B) the protected right to free speech, where they know they can say everything that needs to be said without fear of stoning or other punishment for “blasphemy”.

Imagine being stuck in a society that doesn’t even allow you to express your lack of belief in fairy tales. That’s what existed for most people for thousands of years. It’s only been relatively recently that humanity has started to enjoy the protected right and ability to spread a contrary message far and wide without fear of reprisal. Most religions (and all of the mainstream ones) prohibit that in some fashion, under penalty of eternal damnation. Who the FUCK wants to live under that kind of iron-fisted rule?

 

[HenryFloored]

You don’t even know what you’re arguing against. You talk as though atheism is just another form of dogma. Atheism is not a belief system, it is a lack of belief in bullshit religions and gods that have no basis in reality. “Where is it now” is an utterly stupid question that shows you don’t even understand the concept.

You talk about this like it’s a fad, and your nonsensical posts before about my “20 year old” talking points also shows how clueless you are. Pointing out facts and reality is ageless - it doesn’t make any difference where or when it is said, it matters what is right and what is wrong.

Goobers who try to dismiss facts and reality with stylized talking points dismiss men like Hitchens as “new atheists” like it means anything, because you know you can’t argue against him on the merits of his actual points. Just like you can’t with me. Pointing out the logical fallacies of religion and god is extremely easy, ageless and it matters not who says it. Lumping some recent particularly outspoken atheists and anti-theists into a box as if they’re the only ones who so believe is the absolute height of ignorance. Not only are these men not alone in their beliefs and thoughts, but they are not new either. The two primary differences between them and many men that came hundreds or thousands of years before is that we have two things now that men who came before them didn’t: A) easy access to television and other media to spread their message, and B) the protected right to free speech, where they know they can say everything that needs to be said without fear of stoning or other punishment for “blasphemy”.

Imagine being stuck in a society that doesn’t even allow you to express your lack of belief in fairy tales. That’s what existed for most people for thousands of years. It’s only been relatively recently that humanity has started to enjoy the protected right and ability to spread a contrary message far and wide without fear of reprisal. Most religions (and all of the mainstream ones) prohibit that in some fashion, under penalty of eternal damnation. Who the FUCK wants to live under that kind of iron-fisted rule?

I’m sorry DBT I guess I’m not up to your level because I couldn’t follow your line of thinking whatsoever. Many accuse me of so called “word salads” but I think you have me beat.

Listen brother I know about all there is to know about atheism and I even know what an “anti-theist” is. We had one in this very thread a year or so ago.

My thoughts on Christopher Hitchens are very simply this. He was very good at poking holes in the faith traditions of various people (but mostly Christians of course) and also because we can’t see our “sky daddy” he was excellent at pointing out the ways God isn’t true. At least at low levels of investigation.

But I take you as someone who is confident in his intellectual prowess. You were even mentioned in scripture and called Thomas. (doubting Thomas).

This is fine. Many minds work this way. Mine does as well which often as much of a liability for me as it is an asset.

But the crux of the matter is, to quote a Ted Lasso line, “why aren’t you more curious?”

It seems like every day there are new discoveries and ancient secrets uncovered in which you can stick your fingers into.

For example you atheistic types love to poke fun at the Christian Bible but almost daily some artifact which supports the veracity of the Bible is uncovered. Why don’t you keep an open mind and look into those types of things. I don’t care what you found 10 years ago. As a result of the information super highway there is almost too much new and intriguing information to be studied.

I guess I could go on and on but I’d probably be wasting my time. As I have said both in threads like this or a fun thread like the Cleveland thread I am hopeful that someone on the sidelines just reading the back and forth gets something out of it.

I’m not trying to detransition you or convert you DBT. I just like the mental exercise.

Would I love you to come aboard and have you enjoy the contentment of having a relationship with God? Heck yes! But I can’t want it for you. You have to want it yourself.

BTW even the most primitive cave man or animal or tiny insect is connected somehow in this grand web of energy.

Now I don’t know the mechanics of how it all works exactly but it’s sitting right there in front of you. I am personally moved and amazed that physicists and mathematicians are coming to the conclusion there is more “behind the curtain”.

 

[VinnyVette9340]

Even believers are fed up with “the church.” American bishop awards career pro abortion zealot Dick Durban a lifetime achievement award. I watched the pope mealy mouth his way through justifying it when he should have roundly condemned it and sanctioned the bishop. The Catholic Church can fuck right off.

Archbishop Naumann Accuses Cardinal Cupich of ‘Pastoral Neglect’ for Honoring Pro-Abortion Senator

The retired archbishop of Kansas City, Kansas — a past chairman of the U.S. bishops’ pro-life committee — is the latest American prelate to publicly chastise Chicago Cardinal Blase Cupich for honoring U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin, a long-standing advocate of legalized abortion.

www.ncregister.com