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[QUOTE="DeepBrainThrombosis, post: 74682447, member: 360553"

What I am in fact doing is trying to enlighten others. Trying to open minds, trying to free minds from the mental enslavement that is religion and belief in a higher power that simply doesn’t exist. Not only do I have NO doubt that my conclusions are correct, but I am confident enough in them where I am strongly motivated to try to educate others and free their minds. You couldn’t begin to understand that, because you are entirely mentally captured. Your world consists of god, Ford and environmental leftism, not necessarily in that order. You need to learn to expand your mind - there is SO much more to life than that.
See, this is where I have a problem. WHo are you to try to "enlighten" (your word) on how people are to believe? Whether you believe in God, a higher power or whatever, we have free-will....... something nothing else does. And in exercising free-will it's not yours, mine or anyone else's job to change their minds. That you think you know more than anyone else in something so personal based on YOUR personal journey is the height of hubris that belittles anyone you may know .
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I don’t need anyone’s permission to inform them of the truth and that what they believe in is a lie
 
Ahhh the good ole "free will" argument.

Religious people have mastered the excuse playbook, it's a testament to what the human mind can justify under peer pressure from other believers and the fear of death.

I guess your god also has "free will" the "free will" to cherry pick who he saves and who he doesn't so you can cloud it in some kind of mysterious stupid reasoning on his part.
 
You want to know what I think? I don’t care I’ll tell you anyway.

I think you or at least some small part of you is still looking for God. That’s why you are here in this conversation and you are hoping (maybe subconsciously) that someone can give you that slim chance of hope that your life has purpose and meaning.

Physics haven’t changed since yesterday DBT. You and I don’t matter much more than a block of cheese if you’re correct. Have you come to grips with that fact?
You are insane.
 
Ahhh the good ole "free will" argument.

Religious people have mastered the excuse playbook, it's a testament to what the human mind can justify under peer pressure from other believers and the fear of death.

I guess your god also has "free will" the "free will" to cherry pick who he saves and who he doesn't so you can cloud it in some kind of mysterious stupid reasoning on his part.
It cracks me up how some people think that having free will somehow proves the existence of god, like free will isn’t possible without god. It’s hilariously stupid. My dog has free will too. Every creature on this planet with a brain does. What does that prove? Nothing whatsoever.
 
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Absolutely no reason to go any further. I’ve said my piece. Not so much in the last couple days but more like years ago.

You can unplug Smitty and plug in DBT and there is literally no difference. I get the feeling that DBT didn’t think all of this up himself but rather read and memorized the atheist talking points.

Don’t you guys see the exact parallels? DBT just like Smitty claims that he’s studied and memorized the world’s religions and has come to the conclusion that pretty much result in the same answer.

That is “How freeing it is” to disconnect from a value system that has served mankind for millennia.

That Smitty’s or DBT’s values are far superior to those that are described, for example, in the Sermon on the Mount.

We are seeing in real time DBT what a hollowed out citizenry looks like. We see the insanity on display and gloating over the death of a Christian leader.

You are a phony in my book because even you don’t really believe what you spew.

Now you are my brother and you have value. I care about you but I’m gonna be tough on you because you’re a human walnut.

You may not be ready but whoa to the man that leads his brothers away from God. I suggest you just keep you super duper opinions between you and God. He’ll meet you where you are.
 
Absolutely no reason to go any further. I’ve said my piece. Not so much in the last couple days but more like years ago.

You can unplug Smitty and plug in DBT and there is literally no difference. I get the feeling that DBT didn’t think all of this up himself but rather read and memorized the atheist talking points.

Don’t you guys see the exact parallels? DBT just like Smitty claims that he’s studied and memorized the world’s religions and has come to the conclusion that pretty much result in the same answer.

That is “How freeing it is” to disconnect from a value system that has served mankind for millennia.

That Smitty’s or DBT’s values are far superior to those that are described, for example, in the Sermon on the Mount.

We are seeing in real time DBT what a hollowed out citizenry looks like. We see the insanity on display and gloating over the death of a Christian leader.

You are a phony in my book because even you don’t really believe what you spew.

Now you are my brother and you have value. I care about you but I’m gonna be tough on you because you’re a human walnut.

You may not be ready but whoa to the man that leads his brothers away from God. I suggest you just keep you super duper opinions between you and God. He’ll meet you where you are.
And you are no difference than the gazillions of people who all say the same thing in defense of god and religion. Why is it somehow surprising to you that two people would share the same view on the opposite side?

To accuse me of not believing in the message I’m espousing here is not only extremely arrogant and foolish, but extremely predictable for you. YOU personally cannot live without god and religion, YOU would be lost without it, so YOU can’t believe that someone else can. The arrogance of that is just astounding.

I’ve never going to meet “god” because “god” does not exist. Never has, never will. I will live my life, and when it eventually ends that will be that. I will be donated to the Tennessee body farm so that my remains can contribute further to the study of forensics and such, I will decay into the ground, and my story will end. No part of that scares me in the slightest. I enjoy life and have no desire for my life to end prematurely, but I’m not afraid of my inevitable, eventual death because it WILL happen whether I like it or not. Nobody makes it out of this life alive. I focus on the things I CAN control, and don’t worry about the things I can. That is all part of having real mental strength, and that means not needing any kind of “god” or higher power to feel fulfilled and have purpose in life. Religious folks - “people of faith” - cannot find that inner strength within themselves, to power them through the days no matter how tough they may get. That is the very definition of mental weakness, and god/religion exist only to take advantage of that weakness for the purpose of control. Knowing THAT and believing THAT is real power. Recognizing that you have the strength within to do things on your own, to face hard times on your own.. that’s real power.
 
See, this is where I have a problem. WHo are you to try to "enlighten" (your word) on how people are to believe? Whether you believe in God, a higher power or whatever, we have free-will....... something nothing else does. And in exercising free-will it's not yours, mine or anyone else's job to change their minds. That you think you know more than anyone else in something so personal based on YOUR personal journey is the height of hubris that belittles anyone you may know .
I don’t need anyone’s permission to inform them of the truth and that what they believe in is a lie
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..........And there's that huberus I was talking about. It's merely a discussion. I said several times, believe what you want.
 
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