[HenryFloored]

305K miles on my LS and still ticking O'Henry.

Very good, if you look back you will see I’m not trying to throw shade at the LS. I’m just saying Ford has utilized the same lifter that has caused trouble in both the LS and Gen III hemi.

 

[Mo Fugger]

And yet , FORD still bought them. That does say something right there

 

[EDrgr]

In this video at 1:39:30, Brian Wolfe addresses the cam/ lifters in the 7.3. A quick google will show who Brian Wolfe is and his credentials.

 

[EDrgr]

Some cliff notes from the video for those who care:

-The "baby" Godzilla (6.8L) will probably have a cast crank in it unlike the forged unit in the 7.3. MUCH cheaper to do the 6.8 than the 7.3.

- Ford builds about 250,000 7.3s per year and with the 6.8, that should go well above 300,000. Think junkyard affordability (ala LS) in the next decade. Fleet vehicles especially.

- Mustang will keep the Coyote, but a Cobra Jet version may see the Godzilla. No clue when the next CJ will come out.

Eddie

 

[Steve.k]

My 7.3 gas f-350 has been excellent. 140,000km still running strong.

 

[GTAShief]

A friend of mine works for Ford and told me yesterday he had a 7.3 come in and the lobe is gone on the camshaft but the roller is mint on the lifter.

So the GM part overpowered the Ford part?
😎

And I own a 7.3 engine it's diesel, but same thing.

 

[JZ9C1LT1]

Very good, if you look back you will see I’m not trying to throw shade at the LS. I’m just saying Ford has utilized the same lifter that has caused trouble in both the LS and Gen III hemi.

My guess is a batch of cams received poor heat treating on the 7.3.

 

[IMSHOT]

Quality is job 1

Hundred

 

[Rick!]

So the GM part overpowered the Ford part?
😎

And I own a 7.3 engine it's diesel, but same thing.

The 7.3L smoker was a Binder engine and it was stronger than an LS lifter. I heard it had Cleveland heads, 'cause, you know...

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

Quality is job 1

Hundred

So did you trade your 7.3 Gas Ford truck in on a GMC or Chevy yet?If not what are you waiting for?

 

[HenryFloored]

Has anyone been able to ascertain the actual failure rate of this problem? I mean real numbers not just “my buddy says”.

Has it been determined if this is a batch problem or an inherent design problem?

Maybe Rick! knows. He’s a pretty fart smeller.

 

[Breadburner]

She is still Spinning like a Top.. Unlike a Ferd Roller Lifter...LOL...!!!

 

[Mo Fugger]

Has anyone been able to ascertain the actual failure rate of this problem? I mean real numbers not just “my buddy says”.

It is just beginning
Certainly you see it will be huge problem
Dont live in Denial
Ford knew the track record of these shit lifters and they chose them anyhow
I have 2 fords , but I will NEVER EVER buy another NEW FORD

 

[HenryFloored]

That’s the same video. Is this supposed to be evidence of a larger problem?

Listen I don’t deny there’s a problem at all. In fact my instincts are to attack problems and get to the bottom of it after having spent a big part of my life being part of that at the dealership level.

I really and truly hope I’m right and Ford is able to identify and isolate the problem quickly and get the customers satisfied.

This is too good an engine otherwise to let a bunch Internet know nothings take it down based on conjecture.

 

[Mo Fugger]

Not to be an internet know nothing here but

BUT ford made a huge mistake with supply chains and they knew better
They deserve what they get.PERIOD
The customer clearly got ripped off again
I am sure this problem will be widespread. We will see
Its all about money
GREED pure and simple

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

Not to be an internet know nothing here but

BUT ford made a huge mistake with supply chains and they knew better
They deserve what they get.PERIOD
The customer clearly got ripped off again
I am sure this problem will be widespread. We will see
Its all about money
GREED pure and simple

And GM and Mopar also ripped people off Yes or No?

 

[Mo Fugger]

And GM and Mopar also ripped people off Yes or No?

Fuckin A
They all suck ass
Buncha fuckin money grubbin cocksuckers
selling shit to the public when they trust them to provide a good product
My New car is not an american brand, nor will any other new cars I buy from here on out
Fuck the american car companies

 

[68468]

They are making it to almost 40k miles. Pretty good for a ford!!

 

[beltfeed]

I would bet most the failures are tied to the factory, government influenced recommend 10K oil change. I only drive my shit 6K a year, oils are changed every 3K, Motorcraft semi-synthetic. Small price to pay to keep the engine happy.

 

[TurboII]

Very good, if you look back you will see I’m not trying to throw shade at the LS. I’m just saying Ford has utilized the same lifter that has caused trouble in both the LS and Gen III hemi.

Henry the G3 Hemi and the LS don't use a lifter anything like the same other than the wheel diameter. Oiling is totally different in the blocks and even the aftermarket hemi lifters cannot lube the bearings full time like the LS can. This is due to how the lifter bore intersects the oil galley offset on the hemi and they don't oil thru the pushrod to the rocker like the LS. They feed oil pressure thru the deck surface to two passages in the rocker bar saddles. It is fed down the rocker shafts, thru the rockers to the pushrod tips. The problem with all three is the wheel diameter being the same at .750" in ALL three. The 55mm to 60mm cam cores require a .850" lifter wheel to be bulletproof which only comes with a .937" lifter/bore. A .903" will get you to a .810 - .820 wheel but I always run a .937" lifter and be done with it. The large base-circle cam requires less spring and is easier on the wheels at high rpm except for the fact that they over-speed the lifer wheels. The larger wheels slow the RPM down and also have more needles and a larger axle which increases contact area reducing loading on each needle. This was the fix for the high RPM, very high HP LS/LSX engines we built at Kurt Urban Performance over a decade ago. Most of our class racing engines were 9300-9400 RPM and well over 2000HP. We never had any lifter or cam issues with this setup. All three mfgs stopped short on achieving an otherwise well engineered valvetrain system. Probably the bean counters behind the shortcomings.