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Why was the “Does God Exist” thread deleted?

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#1 ·
Hey looks like that thread was closed. No reason given. Can anyone help me with this?

I don’t quite understand why a substantive topic would be locked.

What gives?
 
#5,950 · (Edited)
Why would I be scared of a web site? Not just his web site. Don't be so shallow! You are frightener of him and his "reach" [his platform] as well as his public service...as you described it! Your stated goal is to reach and convert! He excels while you .... struggle with a single thread.
I read several of his very long articles today, he is very thorough and enjoyable to read.
I am grateful for his work, nothing to be "frightener" of, in fact I will likely use him as a study reference in the future.
I may even support his work financially after I read some more.
I wonder why you have these ideas of jealousy? Don't you appreciate others that advance a good cause?
I did find somewhat of a pattern, regardless of side of controversy the person he is reviewing is aligned with his criticism seems unreasonably harsh.
Some have commented that his harshness is motivated by jealousy or that he is hiding his motivation, I don't see that pattern exactly. He seems like he may just be a perfectionist.

I asked "mostly" not absolutely. Apparently you believe "some" of their teachings/preaching?! There's a difference between "mostly" and "all". Which ones do you agree with? I DO NOT KOW THEM OR THEIR....."WORK"?
I used the word "mostly" because Hovind and Comfort state some obvious non controversial things and then tries to merge in lies.
So my question is if you agree with the controversial things he says. Maybe you could watch some of his videos, I would be interested to know your thoughts.

Baseless claim^^^^
How does this differ from delusional thinking? You are going to have think for yourself. Not everything can be explained for/to you.
More baseless claims^^^^
 
#5,951 ·
I read several of his very long articles today, he is very thorough and enjoyable to read.
I am grateful for his work, nothing to be "frightener" of, in fact I will likely use him as a study reference in the future.
I may even support his work financially after I read some more.
I wonder why you have these ideas of jealousy? Don't you appreciate others that advance a good cause?
I did find somewhat of a pattern, regardless of side of controversy the person he is reviewing is aligned with his criticism seems unreasonably harsh.
Some have commented that his harshness is motivated by jealousy or that he is hiding his motivation, I don't see that pattern exactly. He seems like he may just be a perfectionist.



I used the word "mostly" because Hovind and Comfort state some obvious non controversial things and then tries to merge in lies.
So my question is if you agree with the controversial things he says. Maybe you could watch some of his videos, I would be interested to know your thoughts.



More baseless claims^^^^
-I wonder why you have these ideas of jealousy? I's more of an observation based on your posting(s). Just an opinion.
-Don't you appreciate others that advance a good cause? Absolutely! I think we may differ in the full application of a "good" cause.
-So my question is if you agree with the controversial things he says. Again, I do not know their work well enough to comment. With that, it has been my experience, [most] street preachers/televangelist espouse a Gospel that is anathema to mine.
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Maybe you could watch some of his videos, I would be interested to know your thoughts. I seriously doubt that I'll watch their videos and try to figure out what you feel is controversial but I am open to addressing your questions the best I can.
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#5,973 ·
Christian crypto scam goes bust, the funny thing is the comments.
"The lord told me to remodel my house"
"god is going to do a miracle"
And the people that were scammed are praying for him.


 
#5,984 ·
I was on it quite some time ago. My guess is it was, even for the Internet, pointless. You had a myriad psuedo-intellectuals, religious zealots, wannbe scientists and just plain 'ol PITA types. And when any of them started to lose an argument or was presented with a POV that they simply didn't agree with the cursing and swearing started.
Now I'm not one to insult or criticize one's religious beliefs so I bailed on it after a few posts. In short, IMO those that really played on that thread were head cases
 
#6,021 ·
DBT you are really putting me to sleep tonight. You ARE literally going back two decades with your arguments.

Additionally you’re really good at putting words in my mouth. I don’t want to waste too much time covering material we did five years ago on this forum.

Listen friend there is ONE creator of the universe and I personally don’t care what anyone names him or how their religious tradition leads them to their spiritual destination.

Your question is anemic and like I said well covered material.

Besides why are you feeling compelled to argue at all about something you don’t believe in? You are so similar to the last atheist called Smitty that sometimes I think you’re him. I wouldn’t doubt it.

So, once again, you don’t believe in anything beyond what you can measure right?

What about love, hate, grief, beauty, talent, creativity, empathy, passion, sexual orientation etc etc?

You can’t see or measure any of those things unless the holder of those qualities chooses to express them.

I think you strict materialists are severely lacking in your understanding of science. In fact professional scientists of all different disciplines are beginning to question the way science is employed.

It’s like the old example of my wife’s delicious apple pie. I can list the ingredients and tell you how she does them but you can’t never appreciate the flavors until you experience them.

YOU ARE MISSING THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS!
 
#6,023 ·
This is just as dumb as when my pops disputed what causes the tides on earth.. my teenage self produced my book called Planets, Stars and Space and tried to read him the relevant section, but he dismissed it on account of the book being written in 1964. As if the science and facts had somehow changed.

Your idiotic dismissal of my argument based on your own erroneous perception of when it comes from is powerfully fucking stupid.
 
#6,040 ·
[QUOTE="DeepBrainThrombosis, post: 74682447, member: 360553"

What I am in fact doing is trying to enlighten others. Trying to open minds, trying to free minds from the mental enslavement that is religion and belief in a higher power that simply doesn’t exist. Not only do I have NO doubt that my conclusions are correct, but I am confident enough in them where I am strongly motivated to try to educate others and free their minds. You couldn’t begin to understand that, because you are entirely mentally captured. Your world consists of god, Ford and environmental leftism, not necessarily in that order. You need to learn to expand your mind - there is SO much more to life than that.
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See, this is where I have a problem. WHo are you to try to "enlighten" (your word) on how people are to believe? Whether you believe in God, a higher power or whatever, we have free-will....... something nothing else does. And in exercising free-will it's not yours, mine or anyone else's job to change their minds. That you think you know more than anyone else in something so personal based on YOUR personal journey is the height of hubris that belittles anyone you may know .
 
#6,042 ·
[QUOTE="DeepBrainThrombosis, post: 74682447, member: 360553"

What I am in fact doing is trying to enlighten others. Trying to open minds, trying to free minds from the mental enslavement that is religion and belief in a higher power that simply doesn’t exist. Not only do I have NO doubt that my conclusions are correct, but I am confident enough in them where I am strongly motivated to try to educate others and free their minds. You couldn’t begin to understand that, because you are entirely mentally captured. Your world consists of god, Ford and environmental leftism, not necessarily in that order. You need to learn to expand your mind - there is SO much more to life than that.
See, this is where I have a problem. WHo are you to try to "enlighten" (your word) on how people are to believe? Whether you believe in God, a higher power or whatever, we have free-will....... something nothing else does. And in exercising free-will it's not yours, mine or anyone else's job to change their minds. That you think you know more than anyone else in something so personal based on YOUR personal journey is the height of hubris that belittles anyone you may know .
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I don’t need anyone’s permission to inform them of the truth and that what they believe in is a lie
 
#6,043 ·
Ahhh the good ole "free will" argument.

Religious people have mastered the excuse playbook, it's a testament to what the human mind can justify under peer pressure from other believers and the fear of death.

I guess your god also has "free will" the "free will" to cherry pick who he saves and who he doesn't so you can cloud it in some kind of mysterious stupid reasoning on his part.
 
#6,045 ·
It cracks me up how some people think that having free will somehow proves the existence of god, like free will isn’t possible without god. It’s hilariously stupid. My dog has free will too. Every creature on this planet with a brain does. What does that prove? Nothing whatsoever.
 
#6,047 ·
Absolutely no reason to go any further. I’ve said my piece. Not so much in the last couple days but more like years ago.

You can unplug Smitty and plug in DBT and there is literally no difference. I get the feeling that DBT didn’t think all of this up himself but rather read and memorized the atheist talking points.

Don’t you guys see the exact parallels? DBT just like Smitty claims that he’s studied and memorized the world’s religions and has come to the conclusion that pretty much result in the same answer.

That is “How freeing it is” to disconnect from a value system that has served mankind for millennia.

That Smitty’s or DBT’s values are far superior to those that are described, for example, in the Sermon on the Mount.

We are seeing in real time DBT what a hollowed out citizenry looks like. We see the insanity on display and gloating over the death of a Christian leader.

You are a phony in my book because even you don’t really believe what you spew.

Now you are my brother and you have value. I care about you but I’m gonna be tough on you because you’re a human walnut.

You may not be ready but whoa to the man that leads his brothers away from God. I suggest you just keep you super duper opinions between you and God. He’ll meet you where you are.
 
#6,048 ·
And you are no difference than the gazillions of people who all say the same thing in defense of god and religion. Why is it somehow surprising to you that two people would share the same view on the opposite side?

To accuse me of not believing in the message I’m espousing here is not only extremely arrogant and foolish, but extremely predictable for you. YOU personally cannot live without god and religion, YOU would be lost without it, so YOU can’t believe that someone else can. The arrogance of that is just astounding.

I’ve never going to meet “god” because “god” does not exist. Never has, never will. I will live my life, and when it eventually ends that will be that. I will be donated to the Tennessee body farm so that my remains can contribute further to the study of forensics and such, I will decay into the ground, and my story will end. No part of that scares me in the slightest. I enjoy life and have no desire for my life to end prematurely, but I’m not afraid of my inevitable, eventual death because it WILL happen whether I like it or not. Nobody makes it out of this life alive. I focus on the things I CAN control, and don’t worry about the things I can. That is all part of having real mental strength, and that means not needing any kind of “god” or higher power to feel fulfilled and have purpose in life. Religious folks - “people of faith” - cannot find that inner strength within themselves, to power them through the days no matter how tough they may get. That is the very definition of mental weakness, and god/religion exist only to take advantage of that weakness for the purpose of control. Knowing THAT and believing THAT is real power. Recognizing that you have the strength within to do things on your own, to face hard times on your own.. that’s real power.