My guess is the name-calling & endless dead-end responses just got to be enough. I haven't been on it for weeks but when posters carry-on with insults and answeers like: "Well, you can't prove He does exist so you're ignorant, not a true Christian or your opinion is baseless", for myself I decided enough is enough and posted as much. Butt -hurt? Okay maybe so but the poster that essentially drove me off is happy I'm sure and I guess Administrators saw too much of this & closed it. Kinda makes sense, though. Since a true Christian isn't going to be dissuaded and the atheist are too close-minded to have a live-&-let live attitude to discuss the topic maturely

 

Catholicism has a definition as established by the Catholic church, your beliefs, as you described them, are not in alignment with them.
Why would that bother you?

 

Rambler said he was reporting JBone, since he was banned, maybe he did.

He was having a bit of a melt-down, cognitive dissonance was getting to him.

It must be stressful to argue that something is true but be unable to answer questions directly that challenge it.

 

Same goes for you bro...you don't know when to stfu

 

Yeah one day they can look God in the face and tell him he doesn't exist.

 

Why should I think that will ever happen?
Do you have any evidence that god exists?

 

Dude i'm not wasting my time trying to make you believe something you don't want to believe. Yes I have evidence he exists but it's because of his spirit working in my life , something you can't and won't understand. But I hope you get to meet him before it's too late.

 

Thanks but you are right, that doesn't sound like evidence.
I don't choose what I believe depending on what I want to be true. I require evidence.
When I say evidence, I mean a falsifiable hypotheses.
If you have one that holds up, then there is nothing to argue about, you would be convincing.

 

LOL..

 

Well maybe we all need to take a break. Refill our quiver with truth arrows and substance then reapproach the matter at a later date.

I actually was very interested in how this new James Webb telescope would affect the conversation.

Truly I’m interested in the truth and I am a believer. Historically there has been a lot of pushback on the “creator” behind the guise of science.

I really and truly believe that this new science will be stunning and support and strengthen my beliefs.

I can also see it as another tool in big government’s arsenal to control the minds of casual observers. See if big government and the world elites could just wrestle our guns and God away and crush our families and associations then it will be that much easier to take full control, which by now if you doubt that well……….there is no hope for you at this point.

If someone doesn’t do it first I intend, at some point in the future, to start a thread and revisit this subject maybe from a different angle.

 

Truly I’m interested in the truth and I am a believer. Historically there has been a lot of pushback on the “creator” behind the guise of science.

The why do you avoid questions that would debunk your arguments?

 

“My guess is the name-calling & endless dead-end responses just got to be enough”
That must mean the Russia - Ukraine thread is next? 🤣

 

That is such a sad situation.
I visited Ukraine and by coincidence went to many the same cities that are being destroyed now.
Those poor people are still attempting to recover from Socialism, and had so little to start with, now they are being bombed.
Many of them are religious, god doesn't seem to care about helping them.

 

SIMPLE ANSWER!
The woke fucks hate Christians and I was surprised the "deleted thread" lasted this long.

 

I dislike people being told and believing lies.
Believing lies is at the root of so many tragedies.

 

That's a shame. Y'all were finally making some real progress towards changing each other's minds after 8 years.

 

Because God is dead and no one cares.

I guess if you have questions ask the biggest land owner in the world. Roman Catholic Church.

 

 

Religion is the root of ALL problems in the world.…….. Just let people believe what they want to believe and don’t try to change them.
NOBODY gets out of here alive, no matter who you worship.

 

For the record it still pops up when I click on it and hasnt been deleted.

 

 

And, we're off ......

 

Why I'm Not a Christian by Bertrand Russell is a pretty good explanation of the Atheist viewpoint.

 

Worthless Ford cylinder head thread was bumped 2 million times taken up all the sites bandwidth.
And
God died in Chicago last weekend.

 

Okay last week I was the crazy one when I said basically the new telescope will be all kinds of new fodder to chip away at people’s faith. Not everyone is strong in their faith mind you. Some people are just beginning their journey. This is what less than 5 days after the first images were revealed.

Smitty and Company think they got everything pegged based on a science that is over 150 years old.

I‘m not an astrophysicist let’s see what “they”tell us we’re looking at.

Uh because we know science can’t be corrupted…….hello Covid 19…….hello global warming?

Social media today with over 500 replies already. 👇👇👇

 

Does anyone know why communist countries disdain God? Because even those evil maniacal dictators know that a man can’t serve two masters.

It’s perfectly fine as far as they’re concerned if you’re completely demoralized so you can easily become “kept” men.

 

Good point. Many of the same that have no faith in God, are perfectly comfortable having faith in our government. Which faith is more destructive? I KNOW our government lies to us.
Most believers have no problem with others NOT believing. But obviously some on this thread cannot accept that others may believe in something that they do not. Something that cannot be proven nor disproven in our lifetimes. Something that can keep a man alive and fighting when all hope is lost. A common thread outside of government control and oversite. It's futile for either side to argue the point. But often it just makes more sense to tell those who cannot accept your choices in faith, to just piss off and be done with them. Anything further just isn't productive.

 

IMO there are a lot of religious folks that are going to meet GOD and be told you really missed my point, move along now to the other place

 

Organized religion is a Scam....

 

For as long as I can remember I have always tried to be a good person. As I grew up I was made to go to church but at some point that went away. I remained a believer right up until the death of my mother. I can honestly say my belief was wavering heavily towards disbelief as my career progressed and I seen so many decent folks die a horrible death. My mother was one of those good people who died a horrible death and she left this earth with more people owing her than she owed them.

After her death I gave up. My faith was no more. With that being said I continued being a decent human being just without any belief or faith in god or jesus or whoever I was supposed to believe in. For the most part I kept this disbelief to myself. Many whom I work with claim to be believers in the faith as well as practitioners however they live what most religious people would call a "sinner's" lifestyle according to religious teachings. Hypocrites I say.

As I continue to trek along in life I continue to keep my beliefs to myself. One day at shift meeting (like many before) someone takes the notion to say a prayer. Let me tell you by now I am a complete non-believer however I am always respectful of other's beliefs and would never condemn or shame anyone because of said beliefs. I am always silent during prayers however I just kinda of lower my head.....again out of respect for their beliefs. After the prayer a co-worker calls me out and tries to shame me for not "completely" lowering my head and begins to question me. After I have had enough I politely tell him when I figure who the group is praying to only then will I bow my head. You would have thought I had just shot the pope....lol. Many to this day stray far away from me because of my beliefs. I had never once made anyone feel bad or ashamed because of their belief in religion but why would supposed christian's, who believe in a kind, gentle, loving, forgiving god condemn me? From what I have learned in my early days of church aren't chiristians supposed to pray for my soul and forgive me?

One more story and I am done. Our Lt. on the shift knows of my beliefs and would always throw out jabs. I don't really care because I am not one to get pissed off because of stuff like that. One day after shift meeting I am told that there is a chaplain that wants to ride along. I object but it really goes no where and I load up with the chaplain. First thing he asks is can we start the ride along with a prayer. First thing out of my mouth is "Father....I don't believe in god, jesus, or anything like that. If you want to pray I will pull over and be silent out of respect but I assure you your prayer will fall on deaf ears". He says ok, skips the prayer, rides along for about 30 mins, and then asks if I can bring him back to the station. After the shift that day Lt. asks what happened. I told him and he was pissed. When it comes to things like that I always try and respect others feelings and beliefs but when you don't respect mine I become a fucking savage....lol.

In closing I don't really care who believes in god, jesus, or any other higher power. I will never try and convince anyone there is no higher power. Having beliefs like that hurts no one so why should I trample on one's beliefs? Oh right....I don't because that would make me a fucking hypocrite. Carry on.

 

For as long as I can remember I have always tried to be a good person. As I grew up I was made to go to church but at some point that went away. I remained a believer right up until the death of my mother. I can honestly say my belief was wavering heavily towards disbelief as my career progressed and I seen so many decent folks die a horrible death. My mother was one of those good people who died a horrible death and she left this earth with more people owing her than she owed them.

After her death I gave up. My faith was no more. With that being said I continued being a decent human being just without any belief or faith in god or jesus or whoever I was supposed to believe in. For the most part I kept this disbelief to myself. Many whom I work with claim to be believers in the faith as well as practitioners however they live what most religious people would call a "sinner's" lifestyle according to religious teachings. Hypocrites I say.

As I continue to trek along in life I continue to keep my beliefs to myself. One day at shift meeting (like many before) someone takes the notion to say a prayer. Let me tell you by now I am a complete non-believer however I am always respectful of other's beliefs and would never condemn or shame anyone because of said beliefs. I am always silent during prayers however I just kinda of lower my head.....again out of respect for their beliefs. After the prayer a co-worker calls me out and tries to shame me for not "completely" lowering my head and begins to question me. After I have had enough I politely tell him when I figure who the group is praying to only then will I bow my head. You would have thought I had just shot the pope....lol. Many to this day stray far away from me because of my beliefs. I had never once made anyone feel bad or ashamed because of their belief in religion but why would supposed christian's, who believe in a kind, gentle, loving, forgiving god condemn me? From what I have learned in my early days of church aren't chiristians supposed to pray for my soul and forgive me?

One more story and I am done. Our Lt. on the shift knows of my beliefs and would always throw out jabs. I don't really care because I am not one to get pissed off because of stuff like that. One day after shift meeting I am told that there is a chaplain that wants to ride along. I object but it really goes no where and I load up with the chaplain. First thing he asks is can we start the ride along with a prayer. First thing out of my mouth is "Father....I don't believe in god, jesus, or anything like that. If you want to pray I will pull over and be silent out of respect but I assure you your prayer will fall on deaf ears". He says ok, skips the prayer, rides along for about 30 mins, and then asks if I can bring him back to the station. After the shift that day Lt. asks what happened. I told him and he was pissed. When it comes to things like that I always try and respect others feelings and beliefs but when you don't respect mine I become a fucking savage....lol.

In closing I don't really care who believes in god, jesus, or any other higher power. I will never try and convince anyone there is no higher power. Having beliefs like that hurts no one so why should I trample on one's beliefs? Oh right....I don't because that would make me a fucking hypocrite. Carry on.

A persons choices in faith or lack thereof are exactly that....theirs. The fella that called you out had no more right to do that then the folks on this thread condemning those who believe.

 

Brainwashing and mind fucking is what it is. Just an archaic way of controlling people. Each generation starts a new form of brainwashing. With the internet you can do it every few years. Makes people weak, distracts them.

 

Key parts of the Bible were copied from older writings.

https://www.samwoolfe.com/2013/04/plagiarism-in-bible.html

 

Well worth reading! ^^^^^

 

It's not that I consider some of your views wrong. I just think some of them are simply un American.