Uhhhh! I'm sure the 351 Cleveland has won way more races! I just read 3,877 posts about it in the Cleveland thread. It's gotta be true!😛

 

the 351 what? probably fake news from back in the 70's

 

I wanna know more about it. Which cars did it come in? All I can seem to find in junkyards are 5.3 chevies.

 

Don't bitch, those fords need them!

 

Its obviously a copy of the 351 cleeevland...

 

anyone know the suicide help number? i think its gonna be ringing off the wall soon,,

 

Gumsprocket I dug the years GM actually had inter-division development programs. Who could forget the Indy Buicks or the IMSA Olds’ or the individual head designs each of the competing NASCAR teams brought like the Buick and Pontiac head for the “corporate” 358 block.

Race fans like me who are interested in more than the drivers eye color, favorite food and music playlist really enjoyed the variety. The DRCE was no different.

Nowadays though Pro Stock is apparently more loyal to the racers wishes to keep their secret DRCE engine programs intact than to make the class more appealing by bringing it back to its roots.

I just found out that Pro Stock very nearly was going to go to a twin turbo small block format and instead they just stuck with what they had and put fuel injection on top.

Any wonder why fans care less and less about Pro Stock anymore?

Maybe you’re too young and wet behind the ears to remember when Pro Stocks were running the stands were overflowing?

 

I just found out that Pro Stock very nearly was going to go to a twin turbo small block format and instead they just stuck with what they had and put fuel injection on top.

Who told you that, Henry? I believe you but I don't believe whoever told you knows what they're talking about. The only Turbo combination that EVER competed in NHRA P/S was Ingersoll's T-Type Buick Regal - which ironically was more like the showroom version than anything that was racing at the time - or since. But when it came within about 3 feet of trouncing Glidden's mountain-motor Thunderbird the sanctioning bodies, likely with no small amount of bitching from the Gliddens, took notice and nixed it.

The lack of a variety of engine combinations aren't responsible for the lack of fan enthusiasm for Pro Stock. Cost...lack of sponsors....they're all Camaros except the Cuadras....and the biggest problem is that fans come to national events for the excitement of the fuel cars. Run a 16-car field of Pro Stocks at a regional track as the premier class, put up money on a par with some of the big no-prep races and watch the stands (and the field) fill - and stay filled. Few people at an NHRA event get spooled up over a 210mph Camaro after they just watched John Force's Camaro run over 330. You gotta give 'em their own day in the sun.

 

The funny part, is that there nothing Olds about it. That block don't look anything like a 400 or 455 Olds. The heads don't look like Olds.
It's funny that it resembles a big block Chevy though.
It's also funny that they had to revise it 4 times, and it's still not right!

 

That’s because it’s based on a BBC my guy .

 

Henry Flabergasted

 

Wrong thread , I’m talking fiberglass in the Cleveland thread.

 

Winning,,so much Winning. probably win pro stock title again next year

 

Racing against other DCRE engines in cookie cutter Cumaro's

 

Even Ford and Chrysler are running the Olds designed engine these days because Ford cant do shyt right ,,especially in pro stock.. ya, Ford cars are running and Olds engine to be competitive,,bwahahahahahaha

 

The ultimate N/A engines IHRA pro stock… they are all running Ford engines.

 

NHRA will not allow a competitive Ford or Mopar into Pro Stock anymore. FACT.
And you fanboi's congradulate each other for a job well done by keeping them out!

 

Ya sure they will,,but it wont even qualify unless it has the DRCE in it...which is 100% legal.

NHRA sucking up to ford again allowing them to even put Olds engines in their shyt boxes

 

And what Pro Stocker is using a "real" Olds engine? Show one.

 

Start with my fist post, look at the pics, then cry me a river

 

Ooooh, lots of blue tears flowing

 

Tears of laughter.

 

An Olds fanboi touting the greatness of Olds power, that is not Olds power!!

 

But the Olds kicks Cleveland ass… 😎

 

NHRA aproves some ford blocks,,so why aint you guys running Ford? shyt...Ford gave up long ago because Glidden took his secrets to his grave.

Ford block part #M-6010-A500 #M06010-JC50 #m-6010-JC51 three block and you cant build even one to be competitive? just thro some 73 cleveland stock heads on it,,should make 1200 hp

 

NHRA aproves some ford blocks,,so why aint you guys runnung Ford? shyt...Ford gave up long ago because Glidden took he secrets to his grave.

Ford block part #M-6010-A500 #M06010-JC50 #m-6010-JC51 three block and you cant build even one to be competitive? just thro some 73 cleveland stock heads on it,,should make 1200 hp

That block is 23 years old and is iron. NHRA has not approved the C and C Motorsports aluminum block. But they have no problem approving the DCRE aluminum Chevy that pretends to be an Olds.

 

Ford just just use that approved block,,steel and Olds DRCE head and copy it,,put a ford number on it and go racing....how simple is that?

 

Very simple, but it won't run good.

 

DCRE's just don't make enough power

 

Make just enough to win more Pro Stock Championships than any other engine.

 

Here ill help you dumb ass cry babies out again..i already gave you the block part#

Now i can tell you where to get heads,,actually 2 approved heads by the NHRA for ford...made by MBE , they flow 577 cfm So, there are approved ford block and heads available ,,but nobody at ford smart enough to connect the dots bwahahahahahahaha

 

Then why dont YOU build one?

 

Ford cry babies would rather live in the past, instead of racing in the present

 

The ideas Furd stole from Chevy is all they have to cling onto.

 

Are the Chevy's using this faux Olds engine too?

 

So, let me get this straight....back in the early seventies Ford made a head that flowed a million cfm, put it on a factory motor, but it was really a pro stock head..

then years later, they totally forgot how to make a head, that flow a million cfm, to be a real pro stock head?

 

Yet GM made heads that did'nt flow for shit, then suddenly now they make them?
Ford was first.

 

You don't know how a race engine works

 

Oh man,,,that must have been an embarrassing moment at Ford when they got that letter from NHRA that said, yes,,you can run the Olds DRCE engine in your cars for pro stock,,,ill bet the suicide hotline was busy that day

 

So who killed themselves?

 

Hmmm, how come when I look up the bore spacing of a DRCE block it's the same as a 460 Ford and not any GM engine?

 

Because ford invented the tape measure

 

So let me get this straight....it takes Olds 4 different tries to get a Chevy engine right, and they still can't get it right, and Ford and Mopar have been absent from this excusive fanboi class, thus ensuring that the GM's will never have to face real competition ever again!!

 

Looks like GM is the big coward here. Play it safe, get rid of Ford and Mopar so they only have to race themselves.

 

three Ford blocks to choose from, Heads available too, more than a few

so why can’t you guys find another Glidden to work his magic?