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E85 timing low rpm 20psi boost

4.2K views 16 replies 9 participants last post by  FunkyP  
#1 ·
I have a 4.3 v6 turbo syclone. Redlines at 4500rpm. It makes 20psi of boost at 2300rpm. Where should the timing be when that low rpm? I had 18 degrees and went to 20 degrees and it seemed to clean it up. With lower timing it would misfire it seems when the boost would come in and clean up once it got up in the rpm.I have 24 degrees in it at 4500rpm/20psi and the plugs look happy. This is also on e85 and stock turbo. Any help is appreciated. Compression is 9.5:1.
 
#2 ·
You are begging that thing to detonate. Either limit the boost or back the timing waaaaaaay down. Why does it redline at 4500rpm?? Many of us launch at that rpm. You will tear up way less shit turning higher rpm than lugging the engine.
 
#10 ·
I'm not familiar with that turbo but by a post above it may just be choking the engine so bad 4500rpm is all it will go. I would personally make a change to a more appropriate turbo that would rpm like a normal engine.
 
#15 · (Edited)
You can rev them to 5800 or so just fine with a set of comp 980 springs. The indicated factory redline is totally bogus. I ran turbo Buicks for many years. 4.3's and 3.8's. With a cam and good springs 6k is no problem. Can't go much higher than that without spending alot of money. The factory pistons are HEAVY. They have steel inserts behind the ring lands.

The TB head design/CC is lazy. Couple that with the low compression and they need lots of timing. I'd say your right around where you need to be. 20-21* is the norm for 20ish lbs depending on charge temps.


I ran my best ET on a box stock 3.8 (untouched heads/cam/bottom end) at 25* and 25lbs of boost. 91 octane and 30gph of 100% meth injection. Te63 turbo. (I did have a 2700lb chassis though so I'm sure I got away with a more aggressive tune.)
 
#16 ·
The turbo is probably the down fall. Old technology. Too much back pressure.

I was running a stock 4.3 with a N/A cam and a stock 87 Gn turbo. It was done at 4800ish. 986 spring with a bit extra seat pressure with a N/A non factory style roller cam so Im sure the cam was letting in a bunch exhaust gas. Ran on e85 ,carb blowthru, 15 psi , and distributor locked at 31 deg. Ran best there. Changing turbo and cam hoping to make more hp and rev a bit more.

So my setup was a bit different than yours. I would say give it what it wants.

Ive seen a 4.3 make 760hp and still be done by 5800.