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421 SBC Pump Gas Build

72K views 263 replies 65 participants last post by  Bigtruckdrivah  
#1 ·
I would like to start by thanking Joe Irwin of Fast Forward Race Engines of Florida for helping me for the last two years on this build. Joe, his fiance Gina and Troy Pirez Jr. have helped me build the baddest bullet my money could buy. This project as many of you know was put together one piece at a time as my pay check would allow. A short run down of the motor includes the following:

Dart Little M with steel cap upgrade (not the sportsman version)
Callies Dragon slayer crank and H beam rods
Diamond custom pistons
Bullet cam/ crower lifters/ trend pushrods
CFE BMF 248cc 18 degree heads
Jesel rockers speced by Chris Uratchko
Edelbrock 2992 lower 2858 upper 4500 Intake pieces
Stefs oil pan housing a Melling big block oil pump
ATI aluminum hub balancer and flexplate
ARP fastners and hardware throughout
Cometic MLS gaskets, Felpro for the rest
Rollmaster chain

Were looking for over 700 horse on this 11.7 to 1 compression pump gas piece. Motor is built for moderate nitrous too as the combination develops.

Started with this pile of parts

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Resting in the living room waiting for a few more parts and them the installation in the Blazer for some new fast time slips.

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I would like to again thank Joe at Fast Forward Race Engines for the great build experience and the attention to detail on this build. Now I need a few more parts to complete the motor and make it ready to drop in. If you guys have any questions, I will answer them all!
 
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We did not do very much to the intake. A port match extending about 2 inches into the runners, cleaned up the top of the plenum and a little shaping work to the runner walls.

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#6 ·
Im not sure if I will dyno it. I have never done on anything Ive had in the past and my engine builder tunes it on track. As for a card, I have not bought one yet but would probably go with a pro systems carb since I have had great luck in the present and part with Patrick. My eye is always open for the deal though. I need vacuum pump set up, and front end accessories and a carb to be ready to run.
 
#9 ·
I have heard of them, just not had the need to do business with them yet. The motor is pump gas and 4500 flange. I assume 1050 to 1150 cfm but I will leave that up to the carb builder as I certainly am not one myself!:cool:

SBNova2, my wife says she has the most expensive corner of a room in the city. I told her my horses need to remain cool in the ac. She is totaly cool with it and actually helped me get it in the front door last night choosing to eat later then she planned for us because I made it home and wanted the motor inside immediately.
 
#11 ·
Joe worked with Mike at Diamond and we speced them together. Diamond has a bit of knowledge with the BMF head so we were able to design a piston, ring package and wrist pin to really take advantage yet remain light weight. They turned out about -12cc I think. The bob weight is pretty decent for steel rods. We moved the rings down a little for nitrous use and put a beefy wrist pin in there.

Yes my wife is the best. We have known each other since we were in kindergarten so she knows exactly what she is in for. As much as I spend on car stuff, she finds it a cheap price to pay for me to be happy.
 
#13 ·
I think I have seen the camaro before but a while back.
 
#21 ·
What are you talking about? The head gaskets are centered by the dowels and studs.

As for the cam, it is 725 lift and somewhere in the 290 duration area.
 
#25 ·
Why would I not? Convention wisdom says this is the best bolt on intake available. You have a better suggestion? I was thinking about going with a M&M tunnel ram at some point just for the wow factor.
 
#26 · (Edited)
We are very proud of your build Mike and it has been great to work with you as a customer. We are confident your engine will make great power and we are looking forward to helping you get it all tuned in. Everything on the engine turned out just like we wanted and there was not one thing that went into this project that we didnt approve of.

As far as the water jackets no modifications were made. We have several engines out there right now including our shop car with the same head and block setup and we have yet to have any issues.

Thank you everyone for your interest it is greatly appreciated. We are looking forward to getting this combo to the track and making some laps.

- TroyJr
Fast Forward Race Engines/ Innovative Racecraft
 
#27 · (Edited)
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We are very proud of your build Mike and it has been great to work with you as a customer. We are confident your engine will make great power and we are looking forward to helping you get it all tuned in. Everything on the engine turned out just like we wanted and there was not one thing that went into this project that we didnt approve of.

As far as the water jackets no modifications were made. We have several engines out there right now including our shop car with the same head and block setup and we have yet to have any issues.

Thank you everyone for your interest it is greatly appreciated. We are looking forward to getting this combo to the track and making some laps.

- TroyJr
Fast Forward Race Engines/ Innovative Racecraft
The block in the pic is a earlier block and the later blocks Dart was machining 2 of the holes per side for water flow. On that block right now 2 of the holes are completely block off and I would think that may cause a problem at some point in time. JUST SAYING

I am sure when a gasket is layed on the deck he will see whats going on!!
 
#29 ·
Fatman, I plan to run this thing up to about 7500. These intakes are very good in the plenum volume and the runner length and shape. I do not pretend to be a engine builder or expert in intake design but I have seen nothing to point otherwise. Remember, my intake is barely touched. It will not be too large nor is 421 a small motor. Remember my heads are only 248cc which are on the medium to small end of 18 degree offerings. I think the engine shop has about 4 hours in the intake total which includes fitting the upper and lower halves. At some point, it can get more attention but during the build, we did not feel more attention then what was given was warranted.
 
#33 ·
Fatman, I plan to run this thing up to about 7500. These intakes are very good in the plenum volume and the runner length and shape. I do not pretend to be a engine builder or expert in intake design but I have seen nothing to point otherwise. Remember, my intake is barely touched. It will not be too large nor is 421 a small motor. Remember my heads are only 248cc which are on the medium to small end of 18 degree offerings. I think the engine shop has about 4 hours in the intake total which includes fitting the upper and lower halves. At some point, it can get more attention but during the build, we did not feel more attention then what was given was warranted.
What will the cars weight be, including driver? what drivetrain you going to run?
 
#30 ·
Troy, thank you for all your help in the process. Dont make me post the picture of your snake wrangling on the compressor!
 
#34 ·
Dynos are for people who insist on bragging. I have not built anything that demands the tuning or run in time of a dyno. Then again, I have not ruled out a trip to one as I would love to have a real number not a calculated one.

Fatman, The car will be right in the 3100 pound area with my 140 pounds aboard. It currently runs a stock gear th400, 4.10 rear and puts in down on a 275 radial.

Thanks Hrspwer, your right!
 
#35 · (Edited)
Dynos are for people who insist on bragging. I have not built anything that demands the tuning or run in time of a dyno. Then again, I have not ruled out a trip to one as I would love to have a real number not a calculated one.

Fatman, The car will be right in the 3100 pound area with my 140 pounds aboard. It currently runs a stock gear th400, 4.10 rear and puts in down on a 275 radial.

Thanks Hrspwer, your right!
Dyno's are for "putting your best foot forward".......dyno time alone when my stuff was being built netted a 40HP "AVERAGE" increase from 6800-8300. Making the changes to the intake runner, and valve timing events based on track tuning alone would have cost me a fortune, not to mention, the shortblock would have been all worn out.

Dyno's are a tool........and when used as a tool, instead of for marketing, have proven themselves priceless!!!

If you were running in a heads up world, and you were 500lbs heavier than the competition, wouldn't you want to show up with your best foot forward?
 
#36 ·
I respect what you have done Lun but where you were able to try different parts and were able to do work to what you had for existing, all I will be doing is checking timing and air fuel ratios. I am not in a position to play with intakes, cams or other parts beyond maybe a valve lash, carb spacer or similar.
 
#37 ·
Yes........all told, my junk was on and off the dyno 9 times, with 96 pulls in total. Peak HP increases were north of 50HP.

I didn't build this engine, so don't give me any credit for it. I just thought the comment about dyno's being for "Blowhards" was a little narrow-minded.