[hemicop]

Maybe this is off topic but.................
The old trucks/SUVs can be serviceable if one looks hard enough and is patient. E-Bay can be your friend here as there are actually guys that'll go to junkyards, tear parts off and sell them. SO the traditional 7 year expiration may not always be applicable. Like what? Well, I got a NOS overhear console & headliner for my Ram, even a dashboard, notorious for cracking apart, off of E-Bay. Grant it, THAT wasn't cheap but when NOS can't be found, no one makes a decent repo, you're kind of stuck . The advantage is you can reinforce the plastic as you see fit---something even an NOS piece wouldn't have.
The point of all this is newer, say post 2005, on top of being expensive initially and now outdated, few will rummage the junkyards like they will for the really old (1990s-early 2000s) trucks. And older vehicles often have repo companies as source anyway.

 

[TXDave]

Whiffed on the fine print.

Happens to the best of us!

 

[TheRevII]

I have also randomly though about getting something like a 2000s GMC 4500 as a tow-only truck, my concern is getting stuck somewhere because some line cracked from old age.... Or feeling like I need to carry a bag of spare sensors for every sensor on the engine.

We've sold some of those; if they've been maintained well they typically don't give much trouble. Either engine choice works, 496 or Duramax, depending on your needs.

 

[hemicop]

I have also randomly though about getting something like a 2000s GMC 4500 as a tow-only truck, my concern is getting stuck somewhere because some line cracked from old age.... Or feeling like I need to carry a bag of spare sensors for every sensor on the engine.

Those types of trucks could've been hard-used so I'd be real cautious . A 3500 can easily have been privately owned so it may be in better shape. Plus there's cost and servicing. a 4500 is a "TRUCK", not a "truck" unless you're a "TRUCK" mechanic or know one and with its age you may be in for some serious cost. I thought of doing the same thing until a mechanis friend told me HIS price for rebuilding the trans for one. I could buy a 3500 for the price!. All this and what I initially posted are the reasons why I decided to keep my old'94 Dodge

 

[DeepBrainThrombosis]

Absolutely NOT. I can’t specify a hard cutoff date, because the date depends greatly on the vehicle. Also, I currently own two vehicles that fall on the list of stuff I would never buy, but I bought them anyway because they were cheap, and I am by no means committed to them. They haven’t given me much trouble, but the minute they do, they’re gone. They aren’t keepers no matter what.

I’m generally not interested in anything with drive by wire throttle. Roughly coinciding with that is the CAN-BUS era, which I also have no interest in. Again, two of mine violate both of those rules, but I could still sell both for more than I paid, so I’m willing to overlook that… for now.

Financially speaking though, I would never ever buy a NEW car anyway because there’s just no circumstance under which I’m going to buy something knowing that I will IMMEDIATELY lose money on it. I honestly can’t wrap my head around why anyone is ever willing to do that. I mean, I get wanting a new car, and that costs money, but between depreciation and interest, you lose so much so fast, I just can’t stomach that. Something in my psyche stops me from doing that.

Also, completely fuck these “American” automakers that make their cars or components overseas. There’s no chance in hell I’m paying real money for real garbage. Good quality, good condition older American cars are still plentiful and readily available, and I’m not easily baited by new and shiny, so why on earth would I buy new overseas junk when I can buy good old American cars all day long?

 

[Pro Stock John]

Yeah probably I would not buy a 4500 unless I knew the seller and the vehicle history. I've seen a few low mile ones that look like they were just used for private use (big boats for example).

A buddy has a 2004 ish 496 / Allison transmission Silverado, tows well but it loves gas stations. He was re gearing it, 4.10s to 3.55s or something.

I foresee me comparing a 2.7 new turbomax to an older truck that I'd pay cash for. The 6.6 gasser Silverados would tow great but I wouldn't want to daily something like that.

 

[TheRevII]

Maybe this is off topic but.................
The old trucks/SUVs can be serviceable if one looks hard enough and is patient. E-Bay can be your friend here as there are actually guys that'll go to junkyards, tear parts off and sell them. SO the traditional 7 year expiration may not always be applicable. Like what? Well, I got a NOS overhear console & headliner for my Ram, even a dashboard, notorious for cracking apart, off of E-Bay. Grant it, THAT wasn't cheap but when NOS can't be found, no one makes a decent repo, you're kind of stuck . The advantage is you can reinforce the plastic as you see fit---something even an NOS piece wouldn't have.
The point of all this is newer, say post 2005, on top of being expensive initially and now outdated, few will rummage the junkyards like they will for the really old (1990s-early 2000s) trucks. And older vehicles often have repo companies as source anyway.

You just gotta know which models are troublemakers and which not so much. I used to love rummaging through salvage yards but most of them won't let you do that any more. Fortunately there's other sources. We buy lots of wrecked cars through Insurance Auto Auction in order to get the mechanical parts; others, blown up, flooded, etc. to get the body parts. Example, a 2012 Ford F250 4x4 Crew with 360k and a bad 6.7 for $1500. The 4 doors were worth more than we paid for the whole truck. Every body panel was used to build a terminal hail victim with a good drivetrain - and what was left will still part out for decent money.

Gotta take the long way around the bush to survive in this business today.

 

[Vamodsquad]

I got roasted over on River Dave's Place speaking my mind. A Dealer salesman got in there offering a big discount on a new Truck. They had marked it down from something like 81,000 bucks, to about 75,000 bucks. In typical Yellowbullet fashion I said, "Nice Truck, but that's more than I paid for my first house !"

 

[TheRevII]

I foresee me comparing a 2.7 new turbomax to an older truck that I'd pay cash for. The 6.6 gasser Silverados would tow great but I wouldn't want to daily something like that.

Drive one for a day; make sure you can live with that engine. NVH at higher RPMs can be quite annoying with them and resale is way off from its V8 counterparts. You'll get a better deal on a new 2.7 but personally I'd go for the 5.3, despite it having a bit less torque.
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[TheRevII]

I got roasted over on River Dave's Place speaking my mind. A Dealer salesman got in there offering a big discount on a new Truck. They had marked it down from something like 81,000 bucks, to about 75,000 bucks. In typical Yellowbullet fashion I said, "Nice Truck, but that's more than I paid for my first house !"

That stigma sticks in everyone's mind....my first house cost $42,000; the very same house recently sold for $500K so they've gone up just like trucks.

6K off an $81,000 truck really ain't all that good of a deal. Example, here's several 2025 Ram 2500s at this new car store not far from here offering $15-16,000 off on them - and they're $10 grand cheaper than your example to begin with.

https://www.vernonautogroup.com/ram/new-vehicles/

 

[hemicop]

You just gotta know which models are troublemakers and which not so much. I used to love rummaging through salvage yards but most of them won't let you do that any more. Fortunately there's other sources. We buy lots of wrecked cars through Insurance Auto Auction in order to get the mechanical parts; others, blown up, flooded, etc. to get the body parts. Example, a 2012 Ford F250 4x4 Crew with 360k and a bad 6.7 for $1500. The 4 doors were worth more than we paid for the whole truck. Every body panel was used to build a terminal hail victim with a good drivetrain - and what was left will still part out for decent money.

Gotta take the long way around the bush to survive in this business today.

GREAT you can do that. But others, for a variety of reasons, may not be so lucky. In that case we have to rely on guys like you to acquire parts and while I don't mind spending some money My guess is my mechanical skill isn't up to yours and I simply don't have the room to stockpile wrecks at my house. IMO it'd do the manufacturers well if they sold much older used cars with refurbished or newer drivelines in order to attract buyers like me and I'm sure a lot of others.

 

[m120x-2]

I'm looking for my son's first vehicle.
I have a set amount I want to spend for his first vehicle.
I bought my first car at 16 with my own money. My dad didn't know until I brought it home registered and insured.
Times are different now, so I'm bucking up.
He just turned 16, so I got a year to find something and judge his driving skills. I've been looking for mid-size suv's.
Are the Jeeps with 5.7 engine any good? See Cherokees with them around me.

My daily is a 1995. Granted, I don't go anywhere or want to. Get off my lawn!!! 🤣

 

[DeepBrainThrombosis]

I'm looking for my son's first vehicle.
I have a set amount I want to spend for his first vehicle.
I bought my first car at 16 with my own money. My dad didn't know until I brought it home registered and insured.
Times are different now, so I'm bucking up.
He just turned 16, so I got a year to find something and judge his driving skills. I've been looking for mid-size suv's.
Are the Jeeps with 5.7 engine any good? See Cherokees with them around me.

My daily is a 1995. Granted, I don't go anywhere or want to. Get off my lawn!!! 🤣

Times are no different now in that regard. Make him earn it and buy it on his own, like you did. Like I did, like everyone did until the millennial generation came along.

 

[Aceshigh]

Ive been at a point in my life that I can buy any new car I want, but sadly I wont buy new anything anymore. They have distanced themselves away from reliability in favor of big govt BS

Newest I have now is a 2018 QX80 and 2015 Corvette Z51, and thats only because I got them waaaay under market value with no accidents. We have 8 vehicles and 4 motorcycles. Im a retard and just buy stuff to play with

I still have to pull the overly invasive telematics that sell your driving habits without your consent

With GM Im trying to stay 2011 and earlier
Honda or Toyota, only NA motors, and that means nothing new
Chrysler/Fiat/Jeep - I wont do that to myself
Hell Ive even been looking at diesel BMWs and Audis now

coming from a high tech background in spook work then telecom / networking Ive noticed a Big Brother invasiveness pattern I dislike immensely. I refuse to play into it obliviously

 

[Kern Dog]

I have 412,000 miles on this one...

I love the truck and see no reason to replace it. I have a spare engine to swap in when the original engine craps out.
I know that high mileage vehicles will have stuff start to fail eventually though.
I love the Dodge trucks but their switch to a knob for a shifter was dumb as shit. No fucking way am I going to go quietly and buy anything like that.
I'm going to do what I can to keep this one rolling as long as I can.
Lately, I've been getting these lights up on the dash...

The brakes feel fine and perform the same as always. I purged and refilled the master cylinder with fresh fluid and the lights went off for a few days but they are back. I'm guessing it is an ABS sensor issue. It does not register a DTC so the best I can guess is a sensor or the ABS module itself is failing. I've driven cars without anti lock brakes for most of my time behind the wheel so if this system isn't working as it is supposed to, fuck it...I don't care. I'm not buying a truck with some bullshit knob for a shifter.

 

[Aceshigh]

I have 412,000 miles on this one...

I have a spare engine to swap in when the original engine craps out.

Wisest thing we can do with any early 2000s vehicle is just have a spare motor and trans to keep them running. Swap brake lines to Nickel copper or Stainless (rust belt states) and keep it fresh. I say stick to the V8s but thats me

New vehicles have become prohibitively expensive and immense loss of $$$ to deflation. Its not about ABLE to afford it anymore, its “Will you suffer the losses and headaches”

Depreciation is ones ally, or enemy
Be on the correct side

 

[MVF39C]

OPIE loves the pole.

 

[MacTools]

Been eye balling a model year 2025 Dodge Durango Hellcat. Green with silver stripes. This will be for my wife to replace her current car that isn't very practical for her needs. Her current car was a "I've always wanted one of those"

I knew this was going to happen with her current car before I bought it a couple of years ago but, you know the old saying ...... happy wife, happy life

 

[raidmagic]

Buying my wife a new car at the end of this year. I'm keeping my Avalanche it has all the things I need but damn the new ride is nice.

 

[VinnyVette9340]

I have 412,000 miles on this one...

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I love the truck and see no reason to replace it. I have a spare engine to swap in when the original engine craps out.
I know that high mileage vehicles will have stuff start to fail eventually though.
I love the Dodge trucks but their switch to a knob for a shifter was dumb as shit. No fucking way am I going to go quietly and buy anything like that.
I'm going to do what I can to keep this one rolling as long as I can.
Lately, I've been getting these lights up on the dash...

View attachment 716844

The brakes feel fine and perform the same as always. I purged and refilled the master cylinder with fresh fluid and the lights went off for a few days but they are back. I'm guessing it is an ABS sensor issue. It does not register a DTC so the best I can guess is a sensor or the ABS module itself is failing. I've driven cars without anti lock brakes for most of my time behind the wheel so if this system isn't working as it is supposed to, fuck it...I don't care. I'm not buying a truck with some bullshit knob for a shifter.

I like the Rams a lot but… That freakin shifter knob. No way.