Who's running it Skip White sbc rotating assembly
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Skip White
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he is a 100% POS counterfeiter that uses the cheapest crap possible from china.
The crap he sells was always stolen, counterfeited, inferior material garbage!!!
he prays on the stupid, and before the word got out about him, he sold a lot of stuff that failed miserably!!!
The MSD counterfeit parts were hollow IIRC.
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he is a 100% POS counterfeiter that uses the cheapest crap possible from china.
The crap he sells was always stolen, counterfeited, inferior material garbage!!!
he prays on the stupid, and before the word got out about him, he sold a lot of stuff that failed miserably!!!
The MSD counterfeit parts were hollow IIRC.
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I've been 7.50 with their American Made stuff at
www.competitionproducts.com
Block, crank, rods, lifters etc etc.
They also sell china stuff, but they have every level of power you are looking for.
If you are looking at skip white's crap, they have it covered.
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I've been 7.50 with their American Made stuff at
Competition Products - Performance Engine Parts, Racing Engine Parts and Accessories
www.competitionproducts.com
Block, crank, rods, lifters etc etc.
They also sell china stuff, but they have every level of power you are looking for.
If you are looking at skip white's crap, they have it covered.
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Here is what i found out about how Skip White balances crankshafts. My customer thought it would be cheaper to buy a rotating assembly from Skip White than pay me to put one together for him. This was for a BBC. I told my customer okay but i`m going to spin it up when it gets here and if there is nothing wrong, i will eat my time spent on it. If there is a problem, you`re going to pay me to fix it. He said deal. When the customer brought the assembly into my shop he had a look on his face. This was a external rotating assembly. First off, the balancer is still sealed in the plastic. second, the flywheel has only one witness mark of one bolt holding it to the crankshaft. I spin it up and the front is out 18 grams and the rear is out 36 grams and that`s with all 6 flywheel bolts in place. If i take out the 5 bolts, it`s 10 grams out in the front but still out 15 grams in the back. I got paid for my time and my customer had a few words to say to Skip. The next day i get a call from Skip himself and he tried to tell me if i don't have the same balancer as him, i could get a different reading. I told him that 2 different balancing machines should be within 1% of each other if done right. I ended up hanging up on him. I cant waste my time with idiots.
When I was looking to put parts in my GM 400 block a lot of those dudes on the S10 fb pages said Skip White over and over, I ended up not doing that motor and got a crate long block from Tri Star Engines and Transmissions in Wisconsin and it runs fast and reliably all last year, but I don't know if they're selling rotating assy's you could ask for Chad over at Tri Star. (Dart SHP, Scat, icon , howards, etc)
I went 10.80s on motor, 9.80s on nitrous with sbc procomp castings I got from him on a 400ci sbc back in 2010. Was a 3300lb pump gas street car. Have 2 sets of the big block castings still in service after about 20k miles on 600hp street engines. Its not great stuff but if you can handle measuring and dont mind machining stuff thats not perfect it wasnt bad.
This was 10 years ago, dont know what has happened since then.
This was 10 years ago, dont know what has happened since then.
Looking bad for Skip so far. Customer brought me an unassembled BBC 496 engine from him. I did not see anything in those parts I would put together for a bracket engine. He bought everything based on price. I declined and built him one he is still using. He liked everything but the price, until he sold the Skipper pieces to another racer, that had trouble keeping it together.
I used to look at Skip Whites dyno test videos on Youtube of their crate engines. Many times I was able to make out the Barometer reading on the screen, and based on the altitude White's place sits at, the Barometer entered was incorrect, and by quite a bit.
Bought a short block kit a year ago from USA Performance ( Dave Bieneman). Christmas 2020, you couldn't get a dang thing from nobody. He upgraded the pistons/ wrist pins and I was building it 2 months after ordering. Nothing special, flat top circle track type deal. It was what it was supposed to be.
So, you're telling me the Scat crank, rods, Probe and Wiseco pistons Skip White sells are somehow inferior to the same parts sold by other vendors? LOL !!
Check out the specs on his big block Chevy engines and his "custom" Wiseco pistons. The only thing custom about them is that he has them machined with a 5/64" ring groove so he can buy (probably) $5 ring sets. As far as cranks and rods, If there are blems or seconds to be had, that's what you're going to get. Bet on it.
I've been in his shop, behind the scene. Walk in the door, the first thing you notice is the smell. The (supposed) white walls in the hallway leading back to the shop were covered with streaks of dirty black hand prints. The floor looked as if it had never been cleaned. The warehouse was impressive as far as the volume he had there. It seemed fairly organized. Rows and rows of parts stacked to the ceiling on warehouse shelving. There was no "machine shop"...just a few machines lined up against the walls surrounding the warehouse. Really, all I remember seeing was a balance machine. Maybe a surfacer or something like that. His engine assembly room was a complete disaster. Tools, parts, crap spread out everywhere and it was filthy, as if a couple teenagers were building their first engines in their parent's garage. That is not an exaggeration. The dyno...wow. That was an experience. They had a shop dog who ran loose in the warehouse. The dyno "cell" (one of those modular units you could get from Super Flow) was in the back of the warehouse and back in a dark corner just outside the dyno door you could see a big cardboard box with a big hole in it and "dog house" written on it. To get to the dyno, you literally had to walk around dried dog shit on the floor. That, IMO, is "Skip White Performance" in a nutshell. If you're a performance engine guy and from these parts, you know ALL about Skip (and Fred) White.
I've been in his shop, behind the scene. Walk in the door, the first thing you notice is the smell. The (supposed) white walls in the hallway leading back to the shop were covered with streaks of dirty black hand prints. The floor looked as if it had never been cleaned. The warehouse was impressive as far as the volume he had there. It seemed fairly organized. Rows and rows of parts stacked to the ceiling on warehouse shelving. There was no "machine shop"...just a few machines lined up against the walls surrounding the warehouse. Really, all I remember seeing was a balance machine. Maybe a surfacer or something like that. His engine assembly room was a complete disaster. Tools, parts, crap spread out everywhere and it was filthy, as if a couple teenagers were building their first engines in their parent's garage. That is not an exaggeration. The dyno...wow. That was an experience. They had a shop dog who ran loose in the warehouse. The dyno "cell" (one of those modular units you could get from Super Flow) was in the back of the warehouse and back in a dark corner just outside the dyno door you could see a big cardboard box with a big hole in it and "dog house" written on it. To get to the dyno, you literally had to walk around dried dog shit on the floor. That, IMO, is "Skip White Performance" in a nutshell. If you're a performance engine guy and from these parts, you know ALL about Skip (and Fred) White.
Every shop, company, person has horror stories. I have had brand new name brand blocks with core shift that developed cracks, I have seen brand new name brand heads that had casting issues that would crack. Brand new MSD parts out of the box that were junk, ECUs that freeze in the middle of updates that need to be sent back. I myself have made machining and tuning mistakes that have broken stuff.
I am a firefighter in NYC, we just got a brand new 1 million dollar Seagrave rig, 1st day we get it about 2 hours in check engine light and into limp mode it goes. Factory recall wrong fuel filter. 1 week later power steering pump leaks, week after that crack in cooling hose, down 2 gallons of coolant. This is a 1 million dollar rig designed and built to be abused 24/7/365
This happens everyday, in every industry, across the globe. The more product you produce, the more it happens. You dont wanna buy cheap stuff and want the name brand stuff, thats perfectly acceptable, but dont think that stuff is perfect out of the box, I can assure you its not.
There are more 5/64 ring, cast piston engines racing on small tracks throughout the world making their owners and drivers smile then .020 ring billet pistons. Is one more efficient and better then the other, of course, but there is a market for both.
I am a firefighter in NYC, we just got a brand new 1 million dollar Seagrave rig, 1st day we get it about 2 hours in check engine light and into limp mode it goes. Factory recall wrong fuel filter. 1 week later power steering pump leaks, week after that crack in cooling hose, down 2 gallons of coolant. This is a 1 million dollar rig designed and built to be abused 24/7/365
This happens everyday, in every industry, across the globe. The more product you produce, the more it happens. You dont wanna buy cheap stuff and want the name brand stuff, thats perfectly acceptable, but dont think that stuff is perfect out of the box, I can assure you its not.
There are more 5/64 ring, cast piston engines racing on small tracks throughout the world making their owners and drivers smile then .020 ring billet pistons. Is one more efficient and better then the other, of course, but there is a market for both.
Sounds like a engine shop I heard about in South Jersey, 18 month wait time in 2018 , constant lies and bs as to why it wasn't done. This was long before the current nonsense backorder we got now
For the guys buying the low price $1000 offshore no name bare heads or the $1500 assembled heads, they are no better or worse than the ones from Skip White. What I see is on the first rebuild is that the guides are worn out, the valve job is worn out because of the guides. Also the valve seats are grainy and need replaced. They do not regrind very well either if you try to save them. The castings themselves are not bad, but the cost to properly rebuild them could have been well spent up front on American casting heads. If the name is not cast into the heads, Dart, Brodix, Edelbrock, AFR (but not the Enforcer series offshore castings), or Profiler, buyer beware. The heads with the etched/engraved part numbers and no name on them, beware. The heads with made up names in the ads, but nothing one the head, beware. JMO. I have also had new heads come in assembled with seven degree retainers and 10 degree locks (or vice versa) and the wrong valve springs for the application they were ordered for. The builder of those did replace with the proper parts when contacted, blamed that on his help. I do not use anything from the low ball price internet suppliers as it takes extra time to correct or replace and compromises what I do after that.
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It's amazing how many people will buy the absolute cheapest they can find, and solely base their decision on price. It can be on their daily driver, where the parts store has three levels of parts. It might be the biggest PITA part to change, but they will still buy the cheapest they can find, even if it's just barely less expensive. LOTS of people are like this. Hot rodders and racers with this mentality either learn from their mistakes, or end up getting burned out of the hobby because of always having issues.
When it comes to ANYTHING racing related, ESPECIALLY MACHINE WORK, bargain shopping is NOT a good idea! I would drive much further and pay a lot more for QUALITY work. No substitute for good machining. Skimping there will ruin all the work/expense invested. Crappy cylinder work will never seal properly, and poor crank/rod work and improper clearances will junk everything.
I don't get why people step over dollars to pick up dimes when it comes to racing engines... BUT THEY DO! It's like they are shopping Amazon for toasters or something. lol
When it comes to ANYTHING racing related, ESPECIALLY MACHINE WORK, bargain shopping is NOT a good idea! I would drive much further and pay a lot more for QUALITY work. No substitute for good machining. Skimping there will ruin all the work/expense invested. Crappy cylinder work will never seal properly, and poor crank/rod work and improper clearances will junk everything.
I don't get why people step over dollars to pick up dimes when it comes to racing engines... BUT THEY DO! It's like they are shopping Amazon for toasters or something. lol
Sounds like some dirt trackers I used to deal with. Needed a new chassis every year because it had more holes in the brackets and had to have chrome wheels on the mods but then didn't want to spend any money to freshen , update, properly maintain the engine.
and had to have chrome wheels on the mods but then didn't want to spend any money to freshen , update, properly maintain the engine.
I will say one thing Skip, I sure don't like your barometer entry in that dyno of yours, either the operator is ignorant to the importance of the barometer setting, or you're running a scam. And I'm not talking about one dyno test, I'm talking about every video of a dyno test you've done and posted to Youtube that I've watched, you want to be in the engine business and dyno test (YOU) should know better.
I am not a dyno expert, but I do know there is a diff between corrected and non-corrected numbers. We for sure do not publish false dyno numbers. Many of our engines have been re-dynoed by shops for their customers. The numbers they come up with are within 1-2 percent. We also calibrate our dyno on a regular basis. If we were publishing false dyno numbers by any great amount we would have heard about from other shops dynoing our engines.
Hey Skippy, just a question - this thread was dormant since Jan. 2013 until you brought it back to life 3 days ago…. What gives?
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