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Pining Freeze Plugs

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7.5K views 17 replies 15 participants last post by  CarNut68  
#1 ·
I asked my machine shop about a way to keep the freeze plugs in so they do not blow out like I have heard of happening to others.

My option was to use the thread in freeze plug things, my machine shop said to install the freeze plugs and then drill and small hole for a machinist rivet made of steel and insert at an angle to lock the freeze plug in.

this makes sense and I wanted to get a second opinion from the bullet.

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#5 ·
Ok, next question. I was going to start a new thread for this, but it is along the same lines.

As you can see the machine shop did not put any gasket sealer on the freeze plugs before they installed them. I asked them why and they said on a new block it is not needed.

I know for a fact first hand, with brass plugs you need gasket sealer for brass plugs on a seasoned block, now is that the case with a new one?
 
#8 ·
Yes it is, but at 180 mph and a blown head gasket pressurizing the coolant system the freeze plug can get pushed out. Now try stopping when you have water under a tire. Or better yet try driving and hitting water with only one tire. Only bad things happen then.
 
#12 ·
since i 3/4 filled my block i have this problem of blowing plug s out the block seal up when warm and only leaks when cold have done 12 passes so far minus 2 plugs will put screws in it when it comes out in 5 weeks
 
#15 ·
also if you use the brass plugs they flex with the motor. i had a problem with the stainlass plugs walking out do to the motor flexing and the plug not and i had one blow out on me on the street and now i have them pined and use'd lock tite around the hole useing brass plugs and havent had a problem since.
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#16 ·
I tapped all mine for NPT plugs, installed with ultra RTV. Either use antifreeze/water mix in the winter or be sure ALL water is drained. So-called freeze plugs really aren't, as noted above, and they won't save the block. I install the stronger steel plugs if I can't use NPT plugs, and use RTV which seals better than Permatex. I did a big block Mopar once, used block, that the surfaces must have been scratched somewhat, and Permatex wouldn't seal them, but RTV did.
 
#17 ·
Can anyone explain a little more on doing this? IE: what size rivets, what size hole to drill, etc. Looks like just a solid 1/8" rivet maybe drilled in about 30* maybe? Hows the rivet stay in place though?

Thanks
 
#18 ·
I watched the machine shop put these in. Nothing complicated. The freeze plug is a little below the block surface, just drill the hole above the freeze plug where the extra space is and hammer the rivets in.

The machine shop said they were 1/8" steel machinist rivets. Drill the appropriate hole for them. Not sure what that was, but can't be too hard to find out.

Hope that helped.