[37688]

The ARDUN hemi conversion was the first American pushrod hemi V8 that was built in decent numbers.

Where do you guys get this stuff???

It's a KNOWN fact that there were less than 300 sets of ARDUN heads ever produced.

That's decent numbers to you??


Stop looking stuff up on google to fit your need to look intelligent.

 

[USAmade]

Chryslers were banned from both NHRA and NASCAR too. What's your point?

Explain exactly what it was that is "new" about the design?

I am pretty sure the Chrysler Hemi was never banned in TF or Funnycar buy the NHRA.

Post 27, the heads, the block is stronger, the cylinder head bolt design and Im sure a lot more.

 

[USAmade]

Where do you guys get this stuff???

It's a KNOWN fact that there were less than 300 sets of ARDUN heads ever produced.

That's decent numbers to you??


Stop looking stuff up on google to fit your need to look intelligent.

Are we talking numbers now. lol I guess I'll give AJ a call tomm. to find out how many cyl. heads he produced last year!

 

[nitroaddict]

Back to the origional question, which I think was what seperates a BOSS 500 from a BAE or TFX....I've worked on a few TFX's and BAE's. The front cover stuff is totaly different, so I would imagine the BOSS 500 is way different from both of those two, since there is no standard. The oil pans won't interchange between a BAE and TFX so I imagine thats different too. If you've ever done the bottom end you'll like the TFX a lot better since it's wider down there, but you'll soon hate it when you have to take the oil pump off to check the front main bearing. Unless you take the bolt out and just put a plug in there (Johnny West tought me that) on the oil pump side. The TFX also has side bolts on the rear main, but they are not really an issue. Heads, cam, crank....they all interchange.
Who here has actually worked on a BOSS that can shead some light on this?

 

[satansracer]

So who invented the hemispherical engine, when, and for what auto manufacturer?

Here is your quote.

Read what I wrote, "The first american engine to have production hemi heads" Ardun produced them for the flathead "FORD."

You fail at realizing, Ardun didnt have shit to with a production Hemi head, and boastfully claim its the first.
You completely look over the 40-50 years, when other had been making hemi style heads.
This makes you an idiot.

 

[37688]

I am pretty sure the Chrysler Hemi was never banned in TF or Funnycar buy the NHRA.

Post 27, the heads, the block is stronger, the cylinder head bolt design and Im sure a lot more.

No but they ran them right the fuck out of Pro-Stock.... AND NASCAR.

Now the 427 SOHC Ford was ruled illegal for NASCAR but Kalitta won with it back in 64-65.

 

[Dodge 330]

I am pretty sure the Chrysler Hemi was never banned in TF or Funnycar buy the NHRA.

Post 27, the heads, the block is stronger, the cylinder head bolt design and Im sure a lot more.

The 426 sure as hell was banned in Pro-stock!

It became the De-facto engine in Top-Fuel and Funny Car because it was the only motor that could make huge amounts of power and not oil down the tracks and scatter like roaches when the lights get turned on and was make in production volume so racers had a PRODUCTION supply.

Really? You SURE? Wow, that's a whole lot of redesign for a clean sheet of paper...:smt081

You really need to stop eating the bullshit that the Ford/Force camps are feeding you. It's called marketing.

 

[Dodge 330]

Heads, cam, crank....they all interchange.

Wow, someone that actually knows what he's talking about!

Hear that kiddies?

HEADS, CAM, CRANK all interchange.

Clean sheet of paper my ass....

 

[37688]

Who here has actually worked on a BOSS that can shead some light on this?

Nobody... unless they worked for JFR/TASCA/WILK.

I've only been in 417's, KB's & maybe 2-3 TFX's. Never been in a BOSS 500

I'm sure there is enough difference to CALL it something else.. but it's as much a Ford as an AJPE is a Toyota... or an Iilmor was a Chevy or a DRCE was an Olds.

 

[sprocket]

Having raced alcohol funnycars for twelve years,my only engine was a supercharged late model Hemi.
The Force Hemi is a marketing ploy.Same bore centers and cam to crank centerlines as the Alan Johnson Hemi.
Force,Schumacher,they make their own "consumable" parts now.Blocks,heads,chassis,clutch discs are a few.
And it makes sense from a business standpoint.Keep it in house,control the costs,and inventory.
Both these race teams have many CNC machines,that do nothing but churn out said parts.And they also repair everything in house,also.
You would'nt believe the inventories at the shops and in the trailers.

 

[cmccarthy]

There's some ignorant motherfuckers in this thread.

 

[Dodge 330]

Nobody... unless they worked for JFR/TASCA/WILK.

I've only been in 417's, KB's & maybe 2-3 TFX's. Never been in a BOSS 500

I'm sure there is enough difference to CALL it something else.. but it's as much a Ford as an AJPE is a Toyota... or an Iilmor was a Chevy or a DRCE was an Olds.

The fact is, NHRA wants a level playing field and the design CAN'T be changed because they won't let the competitors.

The basic dimensions HAVE to be the same!

 

[USAmade]

I am pretty sure the Chrysler Hemi was never banned in TF or Funnycar buy the NHRA.

Post 27, the heads, the block is stronger, the cylinder head bolt design and Im sure a lot more.

Reading comprehension..... Who said anything about Pro Stock?
To my knowledge the Ford hemi combo was the only combo to be asked to not come back to run in NHRA Funnycar.

This thread was started to find out about Boss 500 engine specs. Then some of the brightest mopar fans had to jump on here and say they own the hemi. When the fact is Chrysler did not invent it, they patented the name and every engine that has spark plug wires in the valve cover is a Chrysler Hemi.

 

[37688]

The fact is, NHRA wants a level playing field and the design CAN'T be changed because they won't let the competitors.

The basic dimensions HAVE to be the same!

Exactly my point, which SOME people in here don't seem to realize proves their entire argument....... a popcorn fart.

 

[nitroaddict]

Wow, someone that actually knows what he's talking about!

Hear that kiddies?

HEADS, CAM, CRANK all interchange.

Clean sheet of paper my ass....

That's on the TFX or Brad, I've never worked on a BOSS 500.
I'm the guy running around at night getting all the 10.5 floaters and 1 7/8 fine spline disks while all the supercomp guys are drinking beer in their flip-flops.
I get a oil pan or two hear and there, used to get cranks and all kinds of stuff.....pick'ins are pretty slim nowdays, lol

 

[Dodge 330]

Reading comprehension..... Who said anything about Pro Stock?
To my knowledge the Ford hemi combo was the only combo to be asked to not come back to run in NHRA Funnycar.

This thread was started to find out about Boss 500 engine specs. Then some of the brightest mopar fans had to jump on here and say they own the hemi. When the fact is Chrysler did not invent it, they patented the name and every engine that has spark plug wires in the valve cover is a Chrysler Hemi.

...and now that the people with real knowledge on the subject have chimed in and essentially told you they're all the same you can't handle it?

I'm glad you recognize me as being "bright" because you're certainly not, ARDUN boy!

 

[37688]

Reading comprehension..... Chrysler did not invent it, they patented the name and every engine that has spark plug wires in the valve cover is a Chrysler Hemi.

You shoud google reading comprehension.

When you get that into your thick noggin, google Toyota 3TC engine & tell me THAT'S a Chrysler Hemi.

 

[USAmade]

The little statement about the spark plug wires was a little humor for you Mopar/Hemi kings!

I've still yet to read anyone that has torn down a Boss 500, so were did you gather they are the same? The guy said he had worked on Brad or TFX.

 

[nitroaddict]

The little statement about the spark plug wires was a little humor for you Mopar/Hemi kings!

I've still yet to read anyone that has torn down a Boss 500, so were did you gather they are the same? The guy said he had worked on Brad or TFX.

I said I didn't know. I mentioned the differences between the brad and tfx and suggested the boss 500 might have similar differences.
On both the brad and tfx the heads, cam, and crank are the same. So I suspect they are the same on the boss.
Same but different....if you know what I mean, lol

 

[37688]

I've still yet to read anyone that has torn down a Boss 500, so were did you gather they are the same? The guy said he had worked on Brad or TFX.

You still ain't getting it man.

They HAVE to be the same.

It's a fukking RULE.

NO engine development for, I don't know, the last 15 fukkin years.

It's just a marketing ploy to fool uninformed fans..... like YOU.