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It sure as phuck doesn't equate to 1200-1300 lbs !!! Bawahahahahahhahahhahahahhah
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Simple math alludes you. Strip your mustang down to the shell. The Fairmont is the bigger volume car. It will weigh more. Add the bumpers and brackets etc to the Fairmont. However on the mustang they don't added the bumpers the fascia covers all. Add the steel hood to the Fairmont then add the lightweight glass hood to the mustang. Add the cage to both Fairmont will take more tubing due to more area. Longer frame connectors. The rear suspension crates weigh more under the Fairmont. So how does the Fairmont roller end up lighter?
Here's a little help. A mustang roller with a sheet metal rear end can be under 1600lbs.
So here's a top tip. 1600-300(weight difference) = 1300
Poor guy. Rage more.
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Maybe if you have ultra carbon make parts for the fairmont could you the get below 1500 lbs Yo.
So the fairmont is bigger, has more interior, heavier bumpers, heavier body, and yet somehow weighs 400lbs less than a stock mustang because the mustang has a front and rear number under the bumper cover?
LOL - is that really your reasoning? Again - I stand by my statement. You're an idiot.
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I have nothing to prove to you. You're saying the BIGGER car weighs less. Which doesn't make sense. Prove that the Fairmont weighs less.
I am saying most racing guys pull the front and rear bumpers altogether and just run the fascia. So you have NO BUMPER WEIGHT to add to the roller. Re-read.
All years mustang weigh different weights. Gt's weigh more. Only a retard will take wiki for factual information.
I know you have lost and are just arguing just because you're a little bitch that can't be wrong. I will leave you to it.
Prove what? Read the factory specs. Both cars have full interior, full glass, full steel, same drivetrain etc and yet with both being stock, the mustang weighs almost 400lbs more.
So maybe just maybe (here's the part where you think) the fairmont isn't heavier at all. In fact, all that stuff you just said kinda gets thrown out the window because all things being equal the 78-79 2 door fairmont is almost 400 lbs lighter being bigger, with more interior, more glass, and more volume. Just a hint the mustang is built a hell of a lot better than a 78-79. By 80-81 fairmonts, they were damn near the same weight as a foxbody.
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Right!, a optical illusion. I like it. It helps you sleep at night. Go with that man. People who own the cars, know. People who don't... Like you stay clueless. I have pulled both apart. I would know. Good luck
You have owned both yet race an old shitbox Dakota? What?
Maybe you should write a letter to Ford and ask why the 78-79 2 door Fairmonts weigh 400 lbs less than a mustang. Regardless of what you think you know. That is the facts. And if you think you are losing 600lbs by removing the cheap box tube bumper inside a bumper cover of a mustang you're even dumber than I 1st thought.
Maybe you should write a letter to Ford and ask why the 78-79 2 door Fairmonts weigh 400 lbs less than a mustang. Regardless of what you think you know. That is the facts. And if you think you are losing 600lbs by removing the cheap box tube bumper inside a bumper cover of a mustang you're even dumber than I 1st thought.
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I can tell u a fairmonts bumper is lighter then fox body..my 79 bumper on my fox is heavy as fuck..your forgetting behind that plastic is the same bumper mounts and the fox bodys have a steel bumper vs alum..the 4eye head light setup is also heavier on a fox seeing the fox one is one big glass nylon plastic piece u der the urethane cover..
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1979 Ford Fairmont 2-door Sedan 5.0L V-8 (ES Option, Ghia)
Ford Fairmont 2-door Sedan 5.0L V-8 (ES Option, Ghia), model year 1979, version for North America U.S. (up to October)
2-door sedan body type
RWD (rear-wheel drive), manual 4-speed gearbox
petrol (gasoline) engine with displacement: 4942 cm3 / 301.6 cui, advertised power: 104.5 kW / 140 hp / 142 PS ( SAE net ), Torque net: 339 Nm / 250 lb-ft
characteristic dimensions: outside length: 4923 mm / 193.8 in, wheelbase: 2680 mm / 105.5 in
reference weights: base curb weight: 1302 kg / 2870
how fast is this car ? top speed: 178 km/h (111 mph) (theoretical);
accelerations: 0- 60 mph 8.8 s; 0- 100 km/h 9.4 s (a-c simulation); 1/4 mile drag time (402 m) 17.1 s (a-c simulation)
fuel consumption and mileage: 15/27 mpg (U.S.), 15.7/8.7 l/100km, 18/32.3 mpg (imp.), 6.4/11.5 km/l EPA ratings average estimated by a-c: 13.9 l/100km / 20.3 mpg (imp.) / 16.9 mpg (U.S.) / 7.2 km/l
Ford Fairmont 2-door Sedan 5.0L V-8 (ES Option, Ghia), model year 1979, version for North America U.S. (up to October)
2-door sedan body type
RWD (rear-wheel drive), manual 4-speed gearbox
petrol (gasoline) engine with displacement: 4942 cm3 / 301.6 cui, advertised power: 104.5 kW / 140 hp / 142 PS ( SAE net ), Torque net: 339 Nm / 250 lb-ft
characteristic dimensions: outside length: 4923 mm / 193.8 in, wheelbase: 2680 mm / 105.5 in
reference weights: base curb weight: 1302 kg / 2870
how fast is this car ? top speed: 178 km/h (111 mph) (theoretical);
accelerations: 0- 60 mph 8.8 s; 0- 100 km/h 9.4 s (a-c simulation); 1/4 mile drag time (402 m) 17.1 s (a-c simulation)
fuel consumption and mileage: 15/27 mpg (U.S.), 15.7/8.7 l/100km, 18/32.3 mpg (imp.), 6.4/11.5 km/l EPA ratings average estimated by a-c: 13.9 l/100km / 20.3 mpg (imp.) / 16.9 mpg (U.S.) / 7.2 km/l
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It is possible the scale was wrong
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Do you have the stock steel bumper on your car still?
Most people racing, don't. They discard and make a piece to keep the urethane from buckling. Obviously that would be lighter than reusing the Fairmont bumper.
If you ever get the opportunity to pull a Fairmont bumper pull it all shocks brackets and everything. The bumper is lightweight aluminum....everything attached is not.
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I hope not it was on the track scales at a X275 event.
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It is possible.. But im also seeing weights vary widely between modles for instance the 79 fairmont futura base weight is 2500 and change
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I have 2 rear bumpers and a front in a scrap pile..my front bumper is twice the weight of the rear off my 79..the attaching stuff is the same as on a Fairmont..my responce was to you saying fox bumlers are lighter then fairmonts when they are not..and yes i have held a fairmont front bumper before..
Now yes a fox dont get them put back on..but as i stated on a 4eyed fox which are the lighter of the fox bodys the headlight bucket area is all one piece an made out of what i believe is a glass filled nylon plastic..this piece with head lights weighs just as much as my back bumper with shocks if not more where on a fairmont you guys dont have this part
If i had a 6volt battery laying around i would toss it into my scale and weigh it all up..i know my front bumper is a solid 40# with out the shocks an this stuff is off a 79 fox which is the lightest of all fox bodys
Maybe jay or bob of nrc will chime in..they had a wagon that was pretty light..
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