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C6 Corvette 8.8 rear end conversion

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#1 ·
Hey guys, Ive been lurking the forum for the past 8-9 years and finally decided to make an account.

After having some issues at the track with my car breaking, I decided I want to go glide. Being that the swap kit with IRS 9' is close to 20k after all said and done I figured I would just do a front mounted glide and do an 8.8 swap.

The issue Im having is, I dont know what style suspension I want to go with. The C5 kits, that Ive seen are all F body style suspension with a torque arm. Im not really a fan of torque arms since theyre in the way.

I thought about copying the same geometry as a fox body and building a subframe that allows me to utilize fox body upper and lowers. My second option was a ladder bar system, but the down side is I can only go 28" long ladder bars. I couldnt find much info on short ladder bars in a car thats going to see a lot of racing( strip and street). Any pointers or help would be greatly appreciated.
 
#2 · (Edited)
I have a C4 Corvette. Had the same problems and same options for suspension. Last year I had my chassis builder build a subframe (bolts in to the factory suspension mounting points) and I went with a S197 Mustang 3 Link.

Dominic Chimino at DC Performance in Baltimore MD did the work.

https://www.facebook.com/DCPerformance.net

Not that I don't like the F Body TQ Arm... its a good suspension and it works really well. Big draw backs to me were - Number 1 everybody else does them.... and number 2, they take up a lot of room in the tranny tunnel..... I had rules that (at the time) required exhaust systems to be run past the driver and under the car....

We (my chassis builder and I) talked at length about using a F Body TQ Arm, G Body or Fox 4 link but I just really liked the S197... it's a touch simpler, with so many Cobra Jets out there hauling the mail I knew I could make it work... and if we couldn't - I could convert it to the tried and true TQ arm very easily.

My car has been 1.20 60ft straight as an arrow leaving like grandma.... Pretty good for right off the trailer after a bunch of changes and missing half the season after torching the motor first race out with it.... This year I am putting the wood to it.

I have a few pics of the construction here in my Photobucket:

http://s50.photobucket.com/user/rklessdriver/library/1984%20Corvette?sort=3&page=1

I know my guy also converted a ladder bar suspension under a Mitsubishi Conquest into a Fox type 4 link I believe back in July....

Will
 
#4 ·
I have a C4 Corvette. Had the same problems and same options for suspension. Last year I had my chassis builder build a subframe (bolts in to the factory suspension mounting points) and I went with a S197 Mustang 3 Link.

Dominic Chimino at DC Performance in Baltimore MD did the work.

https://www.facebook.com/DCPerformance.net

Not that I don't like the F Body TQ Arm... its a good suspension and it works really well. Big draw backs to me were - Number 1 everybody else does them.... and number 2, they take up a lot of room in the tranny tunnel..... I had rules that (at the time) required exhaust systems to be run past the driver and under the car....

We (my chassis builder and I) talked at length about using a F Body TQ Arm, G Body or Fox 4 link but I just really liked the S197... it's a touch simpler, with so many Cobra Jets out there hauling the mail I knew I could make it work... and if we couldn't - I could convert it to the tried and true TQ arm very easily.

My car has been 1.20 60ft straight as an arrow leaving like grandma.... Pretty good for right off the trailer after a bunch of changes and missing half the season after torching the motor first race out with it.... This year I am putting the wood to it.

I have a few pics of the construction here in my Photobucket:

http://s50.photobucket.com/user/rklessdriver/library/1984 Corvette?sort=3&page=1

I know my guy also converted a ladder bar suspension under a Mitsubishi Conquest into a Fox type 4 link I believe back in July....

Will
The newer mustang was also an option too. Nice to see pictures to get a better idea on the frame Ill have to build. Are the lowers and upper the same length as s197 or is it custom length?
 
#5 · (Edited)
That drivetrain cost 20k+ which is what I have into my entire car. I cant justify spending that much money for something I dont class race. Im picking up an 04 8.8 this week with disk brakes etc for $200 locally.


For some reason when I quoted B Williams it doesnt show. Did you use the same lengths for upper and lowers as the S197 or is that custom as well?
 
#7 ·
For some reason when I quoted B Williams it doesnt show. Did you use the same lengths for upper and lowers as the S197 or is that custom as well?
Upper and lowers were fabricated out of CM and are whatever lengths were needed to fit under the Corvette. They are shorter than the factory S197.

If your not class racing and required to use "Stock Suspension" why not just use a regular 4 link? Easy to fabricate... you can believe if I could have done that - I would have.
Will
 
#8 ·
I have a z diff and already cracked it once. As stated the irs9" and glide from rpm and the spindle kit to run 15s is 20k

I do my own fab so I can built a solid axle setup with built glide for under 7k


For some reason when I quoted B Williams it doesnt show. Did you use the same lengths for upper and lowers as the S197 or is that custom as well?
Upper and lowers were fabricated out of CM and are whatever lengths were needed to fit under the Corvette. They are shorter than the factory S197.

If your not class racing and required to use "Stock Suspension" why not just use a regular 4 link? Easy to fabricate... you can believe if I could have done that - I would have.
Will
Everyone I talked to told me not do a regular 4 link unless I want to spend lots of time trying to tune the suspension since out of 50 adjustments, only 2-3 might work.
 
#14 ·
Bringing this thread back since its getting closer to completion on the new turbo kit.

Thoughts on using a 4 link kit similar to this? http://www.checkeredracing.com/4Link4Bar.html

First plating the stock rails then welding the 3x2 cross bar between it? Then adding tubular support from the where the stock subframe bolts up to the cross bar(should eliminate twisting?)