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Would you rather get ahead in life or your career by snuggling up to your boss to work your way up? Is that the best way to keep your job or get ahead? If so explain why.
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Would you rather the quality and or amount of work you do,be used as a measurement to determine how valuable you are or whether you should be promoted?
The reason I ask is my immediate boss/good friend and I have this ongoing discussion/argument about this. He chooses to kiss ass. I say fuck that, do a good job and you'll be more valuable than someone with soft lips and a beard.
YB What say you?
 

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i just say to do a good job and take some pride in your work ..... after all it is a true reflection on who you are
 

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YOUR QUALITY WILL ONLY GET YOU SO FAR....I'M NOT SAYING ASS KISSING....BUT AT LEAST SOME SORT OF PERSONALITY....WILL HELP THINGS OUT.....IN A BOSS ...CO-WORKER ENVIRONMENT.

IF YOU WORK FOR YOUR SELF....YOUR QUALITY IS NUMBER ONE....NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF PERSONALITY YOU HAVE.....BUT BEING A DICK NEVER HELPS :smt102
 

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I'm the only one who works in my department on my shift. No bosses around, so asskissing will get me nowhere. I just do my job, and avoid any contact with my bosses to be honest. Its worked pretty well for the last 3 years, so I cant complain.
 

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From what I've seen around here there"s a few people around here that should be well qualified to answer that question for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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do a good job, but ass kissing can help, it's a mathematical certainty

What Makes 100%?

What does it mean to give MORE than 100%?

Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%? We have all been to those meetings where someone wants you to give over 100%.

How about achieving 103%?

What makes up 100% in life?

Here's a little mathematical formula that might help you answer these questions:

If:
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

is represented as:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26.

Then:

H-A-R-D-W-O-R-K
8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98%

and

K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-E
11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5 = 96%

But ,

A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E
1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100%

And,

B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T
2+21+12+12+19+8+9+20 = 103%

AND, look how far ass kissing will take you.

A-S-S-K-I-S-S-I-N-G
1+19+19+11+9+19+19+9+14+7 = 118%

So, one can conclude with mathematical certainty, that while Hard work and Knowledge will get you close, and Attitude will get you there, its the Bullshit and Ass Kissing that will put you over the top.

Now you know why some people are where they are!
 

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If I like and respect my boss I will go out of my way to be friendly and do anything I can for him and do the best job I can. The better my department looks, the better I look. The better I look, the better he looks. Now if I don't respect them, I will go in and do my job as good as ever but I won't talk to them anymore than I have to or give them anything more than I have to.
 

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YOUR QUALITY WILL ONLY GET YOU SO FAR....I'M NOT SAYING ASS KISSING....BUT AT LEAST SOME SORT OF PERSONALITY....WILL HELP THINGS OUT.....IN A BOSS ...CO-WORKER ENVIRONMENT.

IF YOU WORK FOR YOUR SELF....YOUR QUALITY IS NUMBER ONE....NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF PERSONALITY YOU HAVE.....BUT BEING A DICK NEVER HELPS :smt102
Ding Ding....

Agreed. Play the game and win or complain about losing the game.
 

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^^^^ I like that formula, I've never seen it before


I do the best I can and sleep well at night knowing that if I die in my sleep I have nothing to regret. But just like others have said, you have to have some diplomacy, the best worker in the world eventually becomes too much to deal with if he's a total fucking asshole. You don't have to swing on someones nuts or kiss their ass, but being easy to work with makes everyones life easier goes a long way, especially when you do a good job.
 

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Some of the people I work with always tell me, you gotta learn to play the game.

I don't pull any punches, don't kiss ass, and don't bullshit. I do my job, and make suggestions on ways to improve the business. Then after I leave to go somewhere else and the powers that be actually listen to my input, I laugh when the company I left that didn't goes in the shitter.

Has already happened once and probably will again here before too long. Seems some companies have absolutely nothing but the bottom line in their sights. How many times do you have to beat it into their heads that excellent customer service, and going out of your way to help people will take you much farther than trying to make 200% profit on everything.

Kinda nice to be in a "nitch" market sometimes.
 

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I always was taught to do the best possible job that I can do. With that being said I do notice a cycle at least in my career that seems to happen no matter what company I work with. It seems about every five years you get a shift in management. The boss that thought you were the best thing going is replaced by a boss who thinks you totally suck and they try and make your life miserable. If you can stick it out they are gone in about five years and guess what you are back on top. As so on and so on.:confused:
 

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i just show up,work and go home.
i dont get invloved in any of the bullshit politics and snitching.
i dont socialize with any people i work for or with,including customers
 

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I always was taught to do the best possible job that I can do. With that being said I do notice a cycle at least in my career that seems to happen no matter what company I work with. It seems about every five years you get a shift in management. The boss that thought you were the best thing going is replaced by a boss who thinks you totally suck and they try and make your life miserable. If you can stick it out they are gone in about five years and guess what you are back on top. As so on and so on.:confused:

Same here, 5 years seems to be the number. Fortunately I've always got a future employer lined up, by then.
 
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