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Doesn't take a genius to know getting oil mist into a boosted motor or even a finely tuned naturally aspirated motor is cause for detonation. So why is Ford Racing peddling this off-road/racing oil-air separator vs simply installing on the production line a properly engineered oil-air separator on the boosted and high strung naturally aspirated motor cars to begin with?...............


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This part is designed and intended for competition use only. It should not be installed on a vehicle that is driven on public roads and highways. Installation of this part on a vehicle driven on public roads and highways is likely to violate U.S. and Canadian laws and regulations relating to motor vehicle emissions.


M-6766-A50A
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This oil-air separator is a must have for any track enthusiast! Fits 2018-2019 5.0L Mustang GT Fits 2019 Mustang Bullitt™ Canister is located on the RH (Passenger) side of the engine Precision molded canister with unique filter media separates oil vapor from the air in the PCV system Designed and engineered specifically for installation on the Ford Coyote family engines All OEM quality hoses and fittings are used for a high quality installation and function This is a highly engineered system, not a universal "fits-all" kit, developed by the experts that know your Coyote engine best Canister is easy to drain by removing PCV lines off canister, removing canister and draining oil
Engineered and manufactured in the USA

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Packaged Dimensions
7.75" x 6" x 7.75

Packaged Weight
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UPC Code
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They don't come with them because they are required to be emptied regularly and most people are too lazy or forgetful. They only hold a couple OZ of oil.
 

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Pretty common aftermarket item.
One of the first components added.

Ford is just trying to get a piece of the market share
 

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What, you don’t like cleaning oil out of intercoolers? Lol.

Nah you just leave it and let it build up, after a while it will self clean. You will know when it happens cause the rpms may rise .

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Pretty common aftermarket item.
One of the first components added.

Ford is just trying to get a piece of the market share

Yep this is the answer. Ford just trying to offer a factory style catch can for the guys that like using ford racing stuff. Ford is actually smart for doing it. Most people buy them and add them to a car or truck no matter what brand ford,chevy,dodge.
 

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The "stock" Oil-Air Separator is called a PCV system. I just happens to be woefully inadequate at not containing the mist cloud generated from a 7,000+rpm, DOHC atomizer that is going into the engines induction system.

JMHO: No reason the "captured" oil can not simply be returned to the crankcase/oil. For the Skies Falling boys a simple filter on the return line could polish the returning oil even if it contained significant H2O from the humidity inside the crankcase gases.
 

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They don't come with them because they are required to be emptied regularly and most people are too lazy or forgetful. They only hold a couple OZ of oil.
And they retail for 215 bucks so even if they had a way to return the oil to the sump they would still add that much money to the sticker of any vehicle that came with one for something 99.5% of owners (those who do not operate at WOT for extended periods) would never need.

OP, Stick to cut and paste leave the thinking to the grown folks.
 

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You are clueless. BTW I've sold/engineered/manufactured millions of dollars of mist/gas and oil/water separators. I can detail all the way to the types of coalescing medias to the very (secret) treatments applied to the medias that inhance coalescence. Fact is at WOT mist is majorly getting into combustion chambers and that spells detonation. (the fact that high rpm and DOHC components make for a extreme mist generator vs the lazy OHC engines of days passed.) The sustained WOT just means max oil mist is going into chambers. Under your pretense 99.5% will never have detonation from mist ingestion.(those who do not operate at WOT for extended periods) Conversely the mist problem is far from only at WOT, it's just worse.
You are totally fucked on believing the $215 retail is what it would cost FORD to include a decent separator(s) in their applicable motors. May cost them $10.-$20 to include what should be included in every motor. In short FORD's selling cars with motors that should have a decent means of removing oil mist from the intake tract. Most importantly the notorious carbon fouling of intake ports and valves would be essentially nixed with separators. It's known that oil buildup/carbon fouling in intake port pockets and in-valves is a problem from the detergent in the gasoline passing/scrubbing the intake port pockets and intake-valves. So the carbon builds up.
The whole reason I started this thread - FORDs selling cars that need well over $215 separators installed ($ Labor) to run right. Wasn't there a Coyote dyno test here, fucked for the dyno operator wasting time to determine the car's owner had fucked up the separator hoses layout?

The laugh is FORDs stating to only use it on Race Tracks. So Joe Blow's supposed to install it uninstall it every time he goes racing:
WARNING:
This part is designed and intended for competition use only. It should not be installed on a vehicle that is driven on public roads and highways. Installation of this part on a vehicle driven on public roads and highways is likely to violate U.S. and Canadian laws and regulations relating to motor vehicle emissions.


And they retail for 215 bucks so even if they had a way to return the oil to the sump they would still add that much money to the sticker of any vehicle that came with one for something 99.5% of owners (those who do not operate at WOT for extended periods) would never need.

OP, Stick to cut and paste leave the thinking to the grown folks.[/QUOTE]
 

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If you only had a good filter between your head and your keyboard we would all be happy.
 

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You are clueless. BTW I've sold/engineered/manufactured millions of dollars of mist/gas and oil/water separators. I can detail all the way to the types of coalescing medias to the very (secret) treatments applied to the medias that inhance coalescence. Fact is at WOT mist is majorly getting into combustion chambers and that spells detonation. (the fact that high rpm and DOHC components make for a extreme mist generator vs the lazy OHC engines of days passed.) The sustained WOT just means max oil mist is going into chambers. Under your pretense 99.5% will never have detonation from mist ingestion.(those who do not operate at WOT for extended periods) Conversely the mist problem is far from only at WOT, it's just worse.
You are totally fucked on believing the $215 retail is what it would cost FORD to include a decent separator(s) in their applicable motors. May cost them $10.-$20 to include what should be included in every motor. In short FORD's selling cars with motors that should have a decent means of removing oil mist from the intake tract. Most importantly the notorious carbon fouling of intake ports and valves would be essentially nixed with separators. It's known that oil buildup/carbon fouling in intake port pockets and in-valves is a problem from the detergent in the gasoline passing/scrubbing the intake port pockets and intake-valves. So the carbon builds up.
The whole reason I started this thread - FORDs selling cars that need well over $215 separators installed ($ Labor) to run right. Wasn't there a Coyote dyno test here, fucked for the dyno operator wasting time to determine the car's owner had fucked up the separator hoses layout?

The laugh is FORDs stating to only use it on Race Tracks. So Joe Blow's supposed to install it uninstall it every time he goes racing:
WARNING:
This part is designed and intended for competition use only. It should not be installed on a vehicle that is driven on public roads and highways. Installation of this part on a vehicle driven on public roads and highways is likely to violate U.S. and Canadian laws and regulations relating to motor vehicles


Uh sorry the carbon buildup on ports and valves was due to the engines having direct injection and no means off washing the ports and valves. It was fixed once they went to direct/port injection combo on the 18+. Tell us more about your expertise.
 

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Truly clueless the oil mist causes the buildup of the in/on intake valves and valve pockets. No oil mist passing through the valves means no buildup.
BTW regardless of portand/or direct injection the oil mist still promotes detonation and IF that's not a problem why does FORD racing even have the separator?.


Uh sorry the carbon buildup on ports and valves was due to the engines having direct injection and no means off washing the ports and valves.(where do you think that carbon buildup shit that needs to be washed off in your own words "ports and valves" comes from, leaking valve guides?) It was fixed once they went to direct/port injection combo on the 18+. Tell us more about your expertise.
 
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