Will this sign the death certificate of the NSCA???
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Ouch...i was really hoping this decision wasnt going to be made as i feel that it will lower car counts and hurt the NSCA as far as reputation goes. Most of those guys can make that kinda of payout at local races, they are not going to want to travel. I understand that the NSCA is asking for consideration for their financial situation, but to put the burden on the racers isnt right. As a business (very small business) owner, if i am having a bad week or month i dont jack up the prices on my customers, i find other ways to bring the money in. As a business operating at the NSCA races, i just hope i have a place to come back to for 2006. Good luck guys, and as always if there is anything i can do to help, please let me know.
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Kelly your right. But if they do this, Budd claims they'll be there on '06. So give hime the benefit of the doubt. I have personally talk to Budd over a couple of "brown bottled pops" at a local event and there is a little more in there that "might" change.
But seriously, if you want spectator count, I feel IMO, that you need the import market to join in. There shows are huge, both spectators and racers. Change the rules to let in some of the import scene people, and there would be better funds for all involved.
Your right about the local stuff, and Budd said the same thing. Most local stuff draws well. I can speak for the OSCA in Canada that there car counts are getting bigger every race. The "traveling" show has to be different to draw. Some way shape or form, there MUST be something that says to both the people in the stands and those who are racing that "hey we can't miss that event".
This BS about fuel cost now and the funds to get to wherever just don't work. If say Kevin Parent who follows the series both last and this year were to check the difference in fuel cost, it's what 15% maybe. But if you can get the same or better payout staying local, why go national?
I just seen John S. post about NPS in Ohio, and that to doesn't look good for the future of "two" class that were merged. But that class with the S/M guys should have been killer. But it's turned into a money class. Like someone told me yeasterday, "call it 632 crate motor class". No diverisity means no future. Little guys like myself, Monte Kev, Matt Madsen who have cars for NPS are not there just so we can "donate" funds to support the NSCA. That class needs more to slow down the 632's, not speed everyone else up at a huge ticket. It's a Nostalgia class. Old school. Keep it around 8.0/7.9 this class would have still drawn cars. Look at what Monty has said about S/M. Now only Lursky has been back out. Not one other S/M car has been back. 8)
But seriously, if you want spectator count, I feel IMO, that you need the import market to join in. There shows are huge, both spectators and racers. Change the rules to let in some of the import scene people, and there would be better funds for all involved.
Your right about the local stuff, and Budd said the same thing. Most local stuff draws well. I can speak for the OSCA in Canada that there car counts are getting bigger every race. The "traveling" show has to be different to draw. Some way shape or form, there MUST be something that says to both the people in the stands and those who are racing that "hey we can't miss that event".
This BS about fuel cost now and the funds to get to wherever just don't work. If say Kevin Parent who follows the series both last and this year were to check the difference in fuel cost, it's what 15% maybe. But if you can get the same or better payout staying local, why go national?
I just seen John S. post about NPS in Ohio, and that to doesn't look good for the future of "two" class that were merged. But that class with the S/M guys should have been killer. But it's turned into a money class. Like someone told me yeasterday, "call it 632 crate motor class". No diverisity means no future. Little guys like myself, Monte Kev, Matt Madsen who have cars for NPS are not there just so we can "donate" funds to support the NSCA. That class needs more to slow down the 632's, not speed everyone else up at a huge ticket. It's a Nostalgia class. Old school. Keep it around 8.0/7.9 this class would have still drawn cars. Look at what Monty has said about S/M. Now only Lursky has been back out. Not one other S/M car has been back. 8)
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We've spent 25% more in fuel than last year at this point chasing the NMCA. The local guys don't bother to run NPS at the Stanton race anymore, why is this?? Three years ago there were 10 local guys racing the event, two years ago, there were only 3, last year I don't think there was one. How Come??
For me it's because the car was broke.
The NSCA will survive and it's current racers will back them up forever.
Let the rice in, NO FRICKIN WAY!!!
For me it's because the car was broke.
The NSCA will survive and it's current racers will back them up forever.
Let the rice in, NO FRICKIN WAY!!!
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Thanks Dog. Here in Canada our fuel over the year now has increased about .40 to 50 cents a US gallon, say from $3.00 to $3.45 for the US gallon. But when you have say 50 grand in a car to just stay home over the 25% added fuel costs.
As for the local guys not running, who knows why?? 8)
As for the local guys not running, who knows why?? 8)
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I do, and i am not wishing any ill will to the NSCA at all. I really hope they do succeed. I know all too well what it is like to struggle with the idea that you have something good, but cant quite get the break you need. I have talked with Tony on several occassions and offered a few suggestions for the 06 season. Whether he decides to act on them is totally up to him, after all they are just my opinion and ya know what they say bout those hehe.NPS Nova said:
1. More Advertising
2. Revamp the website
3. Combine classes
4. Increase payouts
5. With the exception of NHRA Stock/Super Stock, change the index classes to an Open Comp format
6. Localize the racing
Some of these suggestions speak for themselves, but just to expand on a few, changing to an Open Comp format will almost guarentee a larger, more diverse turnout as the NSCA would be more uniform with other series. Revamping the site will help to keep things updated faster, cleaner & be easier to navigate to find the info needed. And localizing the races will surely help on travel costs for all. I know some of these suggestions were made by other people as well.
I have to disagree here. The import scene is dying fast. What they need to do is make the classes they already have work, not add more confusion.NPS Nova said:
I agree totally and i think this is a major part of what needs to be concentrated on for 06NPS Nova said:
Bottom line is things need to change and they know it. And i know they have every good intention to make this series better, that is why i support them, i just happen to think this recent decision is a bad one
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How exactly would you revamp the website?
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How about update the website? Thats a good start.
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Me too!NPS Nova said:
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Make the sections for info & results for each race more apparent & easier to find. Not just a post on the message board, but an actual section. Posts are great for quick tidbits but an actual page dedicated to each race would be cool. Add round stats (Driver, Class, ET, 60' & Mph) for all classes & drivers, not just qualifying rounds. Also maybe do a top ten for results for each class, then have a link to a dedicated page for each class, having to click each class to see any results at all results is a pain. Id also ad some graphics to the results pages.Michael Ray said:
The site design is already pretty killer, i wouldnt change that just basically make the information that is on there easier to find. Alot of people including myself have a hard time with that.
I mean no disrespect to you by suggesting to redo the site i just noticed some things that might help. I just quickly ran over this so if i come out jumbled i apologize. Once i get back home tonite i will go over the site & see what i can see.
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Michael this is by no means a trash on you (even though you hate me) The website needs to be clear for new Racers.....How Much???....Tech Inspect Times, ect......NSCA People know what to do but newbie's have trouble figuring it out.....I know I get the Phone Calls before a raceMichael Ray said:
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You're not causing me any heartburn. I don't have anything to do with it. The problem that I can see and will continue to be the problem with the site is that it is a fulltime job and a fulltime team will be necessary to accomplish what you're suggesting. It's not practical to suggest to Tony to spend $100,000/year to operate the website when there's other stuff to worry about. I wouldn't worry too much about putting results on the net either.
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Again, I have nothing to do with the website. I just designed the graphics at the top.
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*They look great
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