This talk was already taking place before he ever ran the .29. I will have to say that I do agree with it to a degree. The nitrous companies have invested to much for everyone to just drop that program and add turbos. That would be the easiest thing to do for most racers but some of the guys are sponsored by nitrous companies and can't just change over. If we had signed a deal with a nitrous supplier, I would still be using the spray but we didn't find anyone that wanted to so that is why we made the change to twin turbos. I figure that if the entire program is coming out of pocket, why not use the best combination available at the time. The rules in most of the 10.5 classes don't penalize you for turbos and certainly don't help the nitrous guys so why not swap over? Our new combo is being built around twin 88's just in case this does trickle down to the other organizations and classes. I honestly believe that 88's will run with 99.9% of the cars out there anyway. Yes, the 90's, 91's, and larger will make more power on the dyno but then you still have to put it down at the track. When someone comes out with a stick shift car and a pair of big turbos and lays down the number, look for rules to change. I have always said that the right clutch car could re-write everything in Outlaw and I still believe that. Look at what BG has done. I know it is not all because of the clutch but being a master of this doesn't hurt.
Will this save Outlaw 10.5?
Texas King of the Hill came up with a new set of rule last night to try and increase car counts at the events.
I call it the GMAC rules, it is no secret that Grant has found the combination that has put him so far ahead of the competition that no one else wants to play in the sand box.
So they voted and here is what is happening and in effect at the next race.
Nitrous cars will get a 100 lb weight break (2900 lbs)
Turbo cars add 100 lbs (3100 lbs)
Maximum size turbo will be an 88 MM
Will ORSCA follow suit? It seems that the two organizations have always shared rules so everyone would be legal.
He is your chance to voice your opinion, speak now or forever hold your peace!
I call it the GMAC rules, it is no secret that Grant has found the combination that has put him so far ahead of the competition that no one else wants to play in the sand box.
So they voted and here is what is happening and in effect at the next race.
Nitrous cars will get a 100 lb weight break (2900 lbs)
Turbo cars add 100 lbs (3100 lbs)
Maximum size turbo will be an 88 MM
Will ORSCA follow suit? It seems that the two organizations have always shared rules so everyone would be legal.
He is your chance to voice your opinion, speak now or forever hold your peace!
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Yea, just like radial tires limit those cars.The tire would have been the solution. 15x15 max rim and 101 rollout. We have tested both ways out of 22 passes with the 16's right down broadway 18 in check and the 15's 7 out of 18 passes. This was with a turbo combination. 2900lbs is nothing and adding weight the turbo cars will go faster LOL oh well.
Sean
Question? Which is more important to you: Car Count or Payout?
And, those 88mm reducers dont do much of anything.
Reducing the turbo inlet a few mms with a sleeve 3-4 inches in front of the tips of the blades does nothing. Been there done that many times. If you want to slow the turbo cars down you have reduce size of the tips of the blades themselves. Putting an 88mm reducer ring or insert several inches in front of 91mm turbo will not slow it down at all. You have to neck one WAY down before you see anything....
Dang, Jeremy and I agree on something! LOL
Dang, Jeremy and I agree on something! LOL
makes them run cone filters in front of the turbo's
Mobley crew says Run what you brung on 10.5 @ 3000lb....PERIOD
Mustang vs Camaro
It is almost impossible to get the older body styles cars light enough to take advantage of the weight breaks anyway. I want to see the older body style cars race and I believe race fans do. Very hard to get a GM "A" body or other muscle car; Chevelle, Impala, Fairlane, Chargers under 3200lbs for the SFI 25.2 cert not to mention getting them safe to go fast. Going to be a whole bunch of "Pro Mod" looking Mustangs racing '98 to '02 Camaros with an ocassional new GTO. The death of this sport is when only new body style cars show up looking like Pro Mods racing each other on 10.5w's.
It is almost impossible to get the older body styles cars light enough to take advantage of the weight breaks anyway. I want to see the older body style cars race and I believe race fans do. Very hard to get a GM "A" body or other muscle car; Chevelle, Impala, Fairlane, Chargers under 3200lbs for the SFI 25.2 cert not to mention getting them safe to go fast. Going to be a whole bunch of "Pro Mod" looking Mustangs racing '98 to '02 Camaros with an ocassional new GTO. The death of this sport is when only new body style cars show up looking like Pro Mods racing each other on 10.5w's.
Mobley crew says Run what you brung on 10.5 @ 3000lb....PERIOD
artyg
the mph compared from a nitrous or n/a car to a procharged or turbo car speaks for itself
To bad Mobley wasn't on the "committee". heard Mobley thinks they can go some mid-high 30s next time out. (with the NOS car)Mobley crew says Run what you brung on 10.5 @ 3000lb....PERIOD
the mph compared from a nitrous or n/a car to a procharged or turbo car speaks for itself
Kieth sexton has been running mid 170's. 174-176.
Joe newsham, your orsca points champ, a twin turbo mustang with 91's is running... you guess'd it, 174-176
Should probably ban the F3R/139 as well . . . .I agree with the twin turbos... Sould not allow them however on a single turbo should limit those to say 101. The 106s on the right motor can run with twns ALA Spiro!!
I think it has to do with chassis and wieght to power ratio.
Theres a shit load of big block nitrous cars that have never been close to 4.40's
Theres a shit load of big block twin turbo cars that havent been close to 6.50's
Theres a shit load of big block nitrous cars that have never been close to 4.40's
Theres a shit load of big block twin turbo cars that havent been close to 6.50's
what about 1/4 mile?Kieth sexton has been running mid 170's. 174-176.
Joe newsham, your orsca points champ, a twin turbo mustang with 91's is running... you guess'd it, 174-176
the only real type of racing
I believe kieth richard and chuck are all top 3 in mph in 1/4. 209-211ish
and turbo cars?I believe kieth richard and chuck are all top 3 in mph in 1/4. 209-211ish
230+????
spiro 220 with the chutes out before the 1000 ft
This class is surely doomed
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