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Where did you hear this? I work for ORSCA and have not heard one thing about that.
I firmly believe removing the wheelie bars for all 10.5s will fix it.
Look at our limited street class.nitrous vs turbo
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I firmly believe removing the wheelie bars for all 10.5s will fix it.
Look at our limited street class.nitrous vs turbo
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Guess what rule is consistent for both the EZ street class and Limited Street class.
NO PHUCKING WHEELIE BARS !!!!
Low et @sgmp in limited street 4.79 nitrous Jeff Paulk
4.79 turbo Carlton Thompson
Limited street record 4.74 nitrous car Darrin Hoyle (last year)
EZ at SGMP 4.956 record turbo Terry Elam
4.97 quickest nitrous Steve Jackson
148 mph record by Jackson.
Outlaw 10.5 with wheelie bars
Low et turbo Lynch 4.35
mph record 180 mph
quickest nitrous pass 4.51
makes more sense than asking turbo guys to build new engine combos.
NO PHUCKING WHEELIE BARS !!!!
Low et @sgmp in limited street 4.79 nitrous Jeff Paulk
4.79 turbo Carlton Thompson
Limited street record 4.74 nitrous car Darrin Hoyle (last year)
EZ at SGMP 4.956 record turbo Terry Elam
4.97 quickest nitrous Steve Jackson
148 mph record by Jackson.
Outlaw 10.5 with wheelie bars
Low et turbo Lynch 4.35
mph record 180 mph
quickest nitrous pass 4.51
makes more sense than asking turbo guys to build new engine combos.
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Paulk/Hoyle don't seem to have a problem with their nitrous combos. They are same nitrous motors 10.5 guys are usuing. just heavier cars and smaller tires.
my point is that removing wheelie bars may slow both combos down. requiring more finessing than all out passes. They would actually be safer than L/S because they are light and have bigger tires. the turbo cars seem to use the wheelie bars all the way down the track were nitrous car don't appear to.
or limit wheelie bar length to the back bumper (similar to NHRA Stock).
I applaud Team Mobley's runs today but it will take time to see if they can repeat it in different conditions.
my point is that removing wheelie bars may slow both combos down. requiring more finessing than all out passes. They would actually be safer than L/S because they are light and have bigger tires. the turbo cars seem to use the wheelie bars all the way down the track were nitrous car don't appear to.
or limit wheelie bar length to the back bumper (similar to NHRA Stock).
I applaud Team Mobley's runs today but it will take time to see if they can repeat it in different conditions.
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no Paulk has a 762 and not sure on Hoyle.
If you are saying Mobley has 860 then as far as I know or have heard he is the only nitrous "Outlaw" 10.5 racer that does.
(Barfield's now sits in an Auto ProMod).
That being said, if that is what it takes for a nitrous car to be competitive, then again we are asking for folks to spend alot of money that they might not have.
Whatever the solution his it needs to be relatively inexpensive.
The economy is taking its toll and asking either combo to spend big $ to change doesn't seem reasonable.
As someone else said if we keep saying step up or stay home..not very many will be leaving the house.
If you are saying Mobley has 860 then as far as I know or have heard he is the only nitrous "Outlaw" 10.5 racer that does.
(Barfield's now sits in an Auto ProMod).
That being said, if that is what it takes for a nitrous car to be competitive, then again we are asking for folks to spend alot of money that they might not have.
Whatever the solution his it needs to be relatively inexpensive.
The economy is taking its toll and asking either combo to spend big $ to change doesn't seem reasonable.
As someone else said if we keep saying step up or stay home..not very many will be leaving the house.
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Not being a smart butt but what does ADRL do to give exposure to the 10.5 guys (besides the obvious fans in the stands).
Most press I read about XTF (except results) is from racer PR or fans such as yourself.
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Jeremy it is not about giving the nitrous guys a break.
It is about keeping people and their cars in the class and some appearance of parity.
You did the smart thing and built a turbo car because turbo cars are ruling right now........why anyone would start a new nitrous project right now is beyond me, unless they can make the 860-870 cid deal work like Mobely has. Barfield couldn't.
I personally don't care which combo is faster. I just want full fields so that we can continue to have races and everyone that shows up a legitimate shot at qualifying and winning. Right now that ain't happening in ORSCA or KOTH evidently.
It is about keeping people and their cars in the class and some appearance of parity.
You did the smart thing and built a turbo car because turbo cars are ruling right now........why anyone would start a new nitrous project right now is beyond me, unless they can make the 860-870 cid deal work like Mobely has. Barfield couldn't.
I personally don't care which combo is faster. I just want full fields so that we can continue to have races and everyone that shows up a legitimate shot at qualifying and winning. Right now that ain't happening in ORSCA or KOTH evidently.
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well thanks for keeping the debate civil. good luck with your project.
By the way ORSCA from SGMP will be on Horsepower TV Oct 11-12.
By the way ORSCA from SGMP will be on Horsepower TV Oct 11-12.
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