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WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON WITH DESIEL???

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#1 ·
On Monday I paid $2.80/Gallon, Wed night it was $2.99/Gal & this morning as I am driving in its $3.20/Gal.

& Gas is not much cheaper. its now up to $2.80/Gal for regular & $3.00/Gal for Super.

I think I have found both Rock & Hard place.

Bob
 
#4 ·
Oh is that why oil is priced 65 dollars a barrel? Or is it because rich folks like you Monty will continue to pay the price for high cost gas?!?! :-D

It's Market driven.... it'll keep going up until the demand slows or flattens out. We need Clinton back in office so he can control the prices.
 
#6 ·
*If you follow it.....the demand is going up from China's economy growing.....plus something I didn't understand. The price is going up because our Refineries are producing at a 24/7 rate (No New Refineries since the 70's thanks to the tree huggers....ie Mr Ray :lol: ).....that means overtime pay on union wages thus running up the prices.......If we just announced that we were drilling Alaska....the price would drop overnight......Reagon did it
 
#7 ·
Monty Mikho said:
Chris rewind to 2 years ago. Bush stated "the oil of Iraq will pay for this war" .. He said it not me!!! Now we are paying for it.. Kind of like his dad with the "No new taxes" :roll:
Well maybe if you were President things would be much better. Lord knows you would have much more influence in the world than W.

(in Waynes World theme) "Montys World - Montys World!!!!"

Although, I will give you the oil paying for the war comment. We're just stupid people in this nation.... what can ya do.
 
#8 ·
That's why my F350 diesel is sitting in the drive way and I am driving a 1996 Saturn SOHC. Last week I got 247 miles from 1 tank and it cost me $21 to fill up. It would cost me $100 to fill up my 38 gallon tank and I would get 450 miles. Something needs to change we are not making any more money and the price keeps going up.
 
#11 ·
Im headed out to buy a car "built" in Ohio this weekend, I Love my Cummins but this has gotta give. is it too early to retire & go racing? Let me check with my wife. Oops never mind I know the answer. LOL.

Bob
 
#17 ·
Jimmy Biggs said:
*If you follow it.....the demand is going up from China's economy growing.....plus something I didn't understand. The price is going up because our Refineries are producing at a 24/7 rate (No New Refineries since the 70's thanks to the tree huggers....ie Mr Ray :lol: ).....that means overtime pay on union wages thus running up the prices.......If we just announced that we were drilling Alaska....the price would drop overnight......Reagon did it
Completely lost per usual and if you're gonna be a damn converservative then at least learn how to spell Reagan... dumbass.
 
#19 ·
I love you Mr Ray.....can't remove posts here.....you can't stay away can ya :-D

OH YEA .....You don't have control here either.....Neither do we :p .....as to my spelling.....it sucks....its gotta kill you Liberal's that I barely made it thru High School yet make a ton of $$$$ HE HE HE......So much for your Phucked up higher Education Systems......GOD BLESS AMERICA.....I hope gas goes to $10 a gallon so you Lib's ride your bikes to the Welfare Office :p .....again Mr Ray....thanks for stoppin back :-D
 
#21 ·
Chris Uratchko said:
Jimmy Biggs said:
Chris Uratchko said:
You bought one of thsoe blackwoods?!?! Yeesh.... I designed the power system for the bed cover... does it still work? :-D
That thing has been in the shop most of its life for that...LMAO
LOL....
My wife hates it....When they discontinued them I got one......a L/M store in Princeton NJ that I do their advertising had 5.........54 g sticker :shock: ....They told me I needed one.......I got it for 29,200.....of the showroom.....couldn't pass that deal......It is the source of a few family chats......I want it for my collection.....my wife wants it gone.....We get a new vehicle for her every year.......its an '02.....who's winning???....I'll get her what ever she wants.....but the Blackwood Stays
.....She's still holding out :p .....I'll win on this one
 
#23 ·
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#24 ·
I don't think China's economy has squat to do with the oil pricing, this is more of a cash grab by the Oil Companies to see what the market will bear for future price increases. As long as the American public is stays quiet, these prices will continue to climb and they will not go back anywhere near to what they were less than a year ago. Look at the profits these oil companies have made in the last 3 to 4 quarters, its sickening.

China has the financial clout to buy up just about any of the oil companies out there or to start thier own if they choose. look at thier oil consumption numbers, it has not significantly increased in the last 3 years.

Jimmy, the oil refinery issue is one that is easily resolved but the Oil Companies do not want to upgrade the systems or the equipment (which they are allowed to do by law and EPA regulations) used to refine the oil.

tom cowle
 
#25 ·
Chris Uratchko said:
What kind of car would that be Bob?
Lets just say Jimmy is going to hate me for sending more $$$ to Japan. IMO, they make the best cars in the world. safe, dependable, economical, efficient & make a TON of HP (relative to CC). if they made a real truck I would seriously consider selling my Cummins.

Bob
 
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