sorry to bug you guys but i have a carrillo question...

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Blue Knight

Discussion Starter · Jan 18, 2013

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Ok here goes....my buddy had a sbc 434 stroker which ate 2 rod bearings.
He bought the short block assembled. Unfourtally the cam didnt clear the rods so he bought a set of "carrillos". Which he ended up eating the 2 rods on. This happened last spring....flash forward to now.

Im trying to clear out my gagrage of his old parts (he has no garage). Im looking at 3 sets of 8 rods.

The 1st set are matching chinese rpm y6000. No questions there.

But the other 2 sets are miss matched. And only 2 have p/n's

Picture #1

Picture #2

Rod #1 has a groove on the cap and side of rod

Rod #2 has no grooves

2 of the grooved rods have a 23699 dot etched into them

Please help......

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ordinary builder

· #2 · Jan 18, 2013

we do not know what the question is...??
because you did not say..

no matter, if the rods pictured in photo #1 are actually blue or has a dark discoloring as seen ( please explain clarity)..then they are junk

you cannot / shouldnot mix rods from one batch to another..

once again, what is the question....??

strokeme

· #3 · Jan 18, 2013

The first picture with the ribs on the cap and beam are eagle. Eagle is the only one I know that has the ribs. Second rod couldnt tell ya, typically today the rod companies name is on the head of the capscrew if its made for them by arp

Blue Knight

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jan 18, 2013

Thanks stroke me...lol

In the 2 sets

Set 1 -2 are ribbed and 6 are not

Set 2 - 6 are ribbed and 2 are not

Regardless he spent $500 for the origional 8 "carrillos"
And $200 on the other 6

But who knows ...im just trying to figure out what this junk is so that i could get rid of it.

Blue Knight

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jan 18, 2013

All the rod bolts match thier mis matched sets...

thecoops

· #6 · Jan 18, 2013

I know this sounds kind of obvious but given you have 6 ribbed and 2 non-ribbed in one set and the other way round in the other set is it possible that a pair got put in the wrong box?

Might be a real simple solution to the mixed set issue.

Cheers,

Pete

tempname

· #7 · Jan 18, 2013

Are they all the same length? Do they have the same big and small end weights? A call to Carillo may help? Never dealt with them before.

Blue Knight

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jan 18, 2013

thecoops said:
I know this sounds kind of obvious but given you have 6 ribbed and 2 non-ribbed in one set and the other way round in the other set is it possible that a pair got put in the wrong box?

Might be a real simple solution to the mixed set issue.

Cheers,

Pete

Sir...you are a genious....wait ....where are you from?.....nope sorry theres only criminals there...lol just cause im from wisconsin, dosnt make me an idiot.

Nope not the issue. The 1st set of 8 were in the block and sold as "carrillos" i didnt put them in the box or install or uninstall them in the motor. They have been sitting in my garage since june?

Im really just trying to figure out what they are to get them sold. I cant morally sell them as a high end rod without being able to prove what they are and with $750 tied up in rods i want to make sure i price accordingly.

I also have a set of "crower" sbc solid roller lifters but the only thing that says cower is the tiebar

How can i proove what they are?

All the stuff is not mine but has been living in my garage and i want the space back.

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Blue Knight

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jan 18, 2013

tempname said:
Are they all the same length? Do they have the same big and small end weights? A call to Carillo may help? Never dealt with them before.

Yes they are all 6" rods but ive got to make sure. Theres a big difference between a $2000 set of rods and a $700 set.

I could call carrillo but what do i tell people? I called them and carrillo said yhey were legit? I wouldnt buy that.

Warp Speed

· #10 · Jan 18, 2013 (Edited)

strokeme said:
The first picture with the ribs on the cap and beam are eagle. Eagle is the only one I know that has the ribs. Second rod couldnt tell ya, typically today the rod companies name is on the head of the capscrew if its made for them by arp

The first picture (the burnt one) with the rib through the beam and the clipped corners on the cap is a Carrillo.
The second pic is obviously the copy.

strokeme

· #11 · Jan 18, 2013

Warp Speed said:
The first picture (the burnt one) with the rib through the beam and the clipped corners on the cap is a Carrillo.
The second pic is obviously the copy.

Is that where eagle got the rib deal from? Carrillo is not rampant in ford stuff and thats all I know lol.

Warp Speed

· #12 · Jan 19, 2013

Carrillo

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strokeme

· #13 · Jan 19, 2013

Warp Speed said:
Carrillo

Oil hole to the pin like the burnt pic?

Warp Speed

· #14 · Jan 19, 2013

strokeme said:
Oil hole to the pin like the burnt pic?

The one I posted is a custom piece with pressurized pin oiling, although it does a have a hole in the top of the small end.

fatboy87

· #15 · Jan 19, 2013

Hey guys. These are mine. I was told when I bought the carillos that they were rated for 1500hp. Then I got the next 8 and was told 2 were eagle and 6 were carillo. All weigh the same. And regarding the lifters, they are supposed to be the good high pressure oiling ones .ill post a link to summit when I can.we wanna know how to verify the parts are what i was told they were

tempname

· #16 · Jan 19, 2013

Blue Knight said:
Yes they are all 6" rods but ive got to make sure. Theres a big difference between a $2000 set of rods and a $700 set.

I could call carrillo but what do i tell people? I called them and carrillo said yhey were legit? I wouldnt buy that.

I pretty sure you have neither at this point.
So what do you tell people now? "The experts on the Bullet said they were REAL good...?

Blue Knight

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jan 19, 2013

tempname said:
I pretty sure you have neither at this point.
So what do you tell people now? "The experts on the Bullet said they were REAL good...?

Yeah i dont know...how do you say you have something but cant prove what it is...im glad fatboy is reading this, they are his anyways...

ordinary builder

· #18 · Jan 19, 2013

IT DOES NOT MATTER AT THIS POINT IF THEY ARE A LEGIT CARILLO OR AN EAGLE OR AN OLIVER OR CROWER ROD...

THE RODS IN THE VARIOUS PHOTOS ARE ALL HURT AND THUS CONSIDERED JUNK......

the lifters say crower, this is fine..
but again, since there is corrosion on them...they are JUNK.....

BYBYLS1

· #19 · Jan 20, 2013 (Edited)

Aa

BYBYLS1

· #20 · Jan 20, 2013

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Warp Speed said:
Carrillo

Yes that is a Carrillo rod. Every single Carrillo Rod I have seen never had ARP 8740 bolts like pictured in all of the OP pictures. Carrillo's normally will come with their "WMC" H11 Tool Steel bolts that "Carrillo" on them or their Mack daddy MultiPhase "SPS CARR" bolts. Here is pictures of both styles of Carrillo rod bolts.

This is the Carrillo WMC rod bolt

And here's us the distinguishing difference between Carrillo bolts and anything that's made by ARP

Hope this helps and have a great day--Justin Ward

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