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Really? Didn't he paint your car? Let O88 and Michelob work it out. Your comments don't mean anything and just add fuel to the fire. Go contribute something positive to a thread on here.
Yes his shop did. All I know is his shop does nice paint work but thats about it. I dont know the service advisor at the dealership personally either.
I already said sorry to Mich and I said I renig some of my previous comments.

Pretend I didnt say anything before and this is my first post, here is my advise. Stop posting on here as O88 hasnt responded in a while and this probably isnt the most effective way to contact him. You have his shop number... call that. Or you already said you would pay for shipping back (?) and the block is junk, I think you said that anyways. Send it back to him as it is doing you no good and is junk, then he has no reason to not send you your money.

^I said that seriously and not being a smart ass in any way.
 

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WOW...this is quite the mess! I dont get in this section often, but definately a interesting read. Unfortunately, I have to spend most of my time in the For Sale section to throw out the bumpers.....and hope to eliminate things like this from happening.

From what I see, this is the original posting (or reposting) of the block in question.
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204232

It is advertised as a "Bowtie Block".....not to mention that is also says it was machined after he bought it and its "ready to run".

I will say shame on the buyer for not asking for #'s or pics, BUT....it does say what its suppose to be in the AD. Meaning, it doesnt say BBC block or something generic.....it does say Bowtie.

All that being said, Orange88, you need to refund the buyer in full. You should eat the shipping cost(s) in both directions because you misrepresented what you were selling. (no, im not calling you a liar or a scam....I read you didnt know....but, that really doesnt matter at this point).

I would "suggest" a full refund be issued BEFORE the block is shipped. The buyer paid you in full before it was shipped, I think you OWE him that as well. Maybe you guys can work something out between you that makes you both happy.....this was my "suggestion". It also shows this "stand up guy" that everyone is talking about.

Maybe the block gets returned, maybe it doesnt - that is between the buyer and seller. Sounds like its junk and isnt worth return shipping, unless o88 can recoupe his money from his purchase. Again...thats up to the buyer/seller to decide.

I am going to watch this thread and look for resolution quickly. If not, I will have to remove access to the for sale section. We cant have issues like this out there unresolved.

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Update.....

I have PM'd both the buyer and seller to help get this resolved. It doesnt sound like the seller is willing to refund in full + shipping both ways (what I suggested above).

I have sent them both a "new" offer/suggestion:
Seller refunds the entire amount + shipping (one way).
Buyer will return the block (ends up eating one way shipping ($150)

This is the offer on the table, I am waiting a response from both of them.
 

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WOW...this is quite the mess! I dont get in this section often, but definately a interesting read. Unfortunately, I have to spend most of my time in the For Sale section to throw out the bumpers.....and hope to eliminate things like this from happening.

From what I see, this is the original posting (or reposting) of the block in question.
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204232

It is advertised as a "Bowtie Block".....not to mention that is also says it was machined after he bought it and its "ready to run".

I will say shame on the buyer for not asking for #'s or pics, BUT....it does say what its suppose to be in the AD. Meaning, it doesnt say BBC block or something generic.....it does say Bowtie.

All that being said, Orange88, you need to refund the buyer in full. You should eat the shipping cost(s) in both directions because you misrepresented what you were selling. (no, im not calling you a liar or a scam....I read you didnt know....but, that really doesnt matter at this point).

I would "suggest" a full refund be issued BEFORE the block is shipped. The buyer paid you in full before it was shipped, I think you OWE him that as well. Maybe you guys can work something out between you that makes you both happy.....this was my "suggestion". It also shows this "stand up guy" that everyone is talking about.

Maybe the block gets returned, maybe it doesnt - that is between the buyer and seller. Sounds like its junk and isnt worth return shipping, unless o88 can recoupe his money from his purchase. Again...thats up to the buyer/seller to decide.

I am going to watch this thread and look for resolution quickly. If not, I will have to remove access to the for sale section. We cant have issues like this out there unresolved.

Thanks!

I agree TOTALLY!! If I sell you something and it's not what it supposed to be it is ALL on me. Why should you lose any money when you didnt get what you paid for? Just my opinion.
 

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Fuck off. I was just sayin that you started this a little whole thread a little early and if I were him I would be pissed. If it still isnt taken care of (((((I dont know what to say..))))). something that posting on here probably wont fix. And scam isnt the word you are looking for, bad transaction is more like it.

BTW I only know of Orange88, dont know him.
nichols92, ( I dont know what to say )

How about saying sorry I called you a fucking sammer and rode you like a toy pony at a kiddy park, and drug your name through the fucking mud, all for a person I dont really even know. Thats a good start. You were so sure he would make good, all that shit you blew michelob1, and for what ? C-mon 88 pay the man. I know if I buy something at any store as advertised, if its not they take it back. I to trust people too much and think 88 should have done the homework. Sorry for the rash of shit nichols92 you earned that ride, for crossing a line you ended up knowing nothing about. I guess since 88 did not pay up he kinda fucked you to, for standing up for him for nothing in return. Ya I know I am a noob, but we all were once.
 

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just so you guys know i offered to pay shipping and all his money back since dayone due to the fuckup on my end. its his problem he cant make good on getting it returned to me. hell we wount even contact me.

if he put the amount of time and effort in to helping getting this all taken care of instead of bashing me for no reason this would of all been fix within 24 hours.

its his loss at this point and should helped in righting the issue instead of fuelng a fire that never needed to be started
 

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im not planing on posting again. he has all my info and so do all of you since he pulled a bitch move and posted it on here. so he will need to get ahold of me in a civil manner to resolve it.
 

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Thats right you OFFERED to pay.You didnt pay.You have all of my info and know exactly where to send the money to.Quit saying you are going to give money back and not follow thru.
 

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im not planing on posting again. he has all my info and so do all of you since he pulled a bitch move and posted it on here. so he will need to get ahold of me in a civil manner to resolve it.

Is the guy you bought it from going to make it right with you or are you fucked?
 

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nichols92, ( I dont know what to say )
How about saying sorry I called you a fucking sammer and rode you like a toy pony at a kiddy park, and drug your name through the fucking mud, all for a person I dont really even know. Thats a good start. You were so sure he would make good, all that shit you blew michelob1, and for what ? C-mon 88 pay the man. I know if I buy something at any store as advertised, if its not they take it back.
This is true... kinda. I only rode the guy because O88 made an offer at the start and the buyer has yet to contact O88 directly. Rather he posts on this forum screaming and bitching. YES, I would do the same as would as well IF I had exhausted all other efforts to resolve the situation.
Also, when you buy something at a store as advertised and you get it home and it isnt what you thought it was (regardless of whos fault) do they send you a check before they have their product back? As I understand it, per this thread, O88 has said from the start to send it back and he will refund. It looks as though that is still the current offer.

I dont think I need to post again unless called out. This looks as though it should be resolved in the next 24hrs anyways.

(sorry messed up the quote)
 

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This is true... kinda. I only rode the guy because O88 made an offer at the start and the buyer has yet to contact O88 directly. Rather he posts on this forum screaming and bitching. YES, I would do the same as well IF I had exhausted all other efforts to resolve the situation.
Also, when you buy something at a store as advertised and you get it home and it isnt what you thought it was (regardless of whos fault) do they send you a check before they have their product back? As I understand it, per this thread, O88 has said from the start to send it back and he will refund. It looks as though that is still the current offer.

I dont think I need to post again unless called out. This looks as though it should be resolved in the next 24hrs anyways.

(sorry messed up the quote)
fixt my grammar ;)
 

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I hope it resolved quickly. I have sent PMs to both the buyer and seller.....ALOT of PM's actually with the seller...lol.

I think the problem now is who will move first. The buyer will not refund without the block back, the seller wont return the block with out a refund first. So......we still have a problem.

I have offered to be the middle man here. I dont know if both parties would agree, but I will hold the refund until the block is returned.....then release the funds to the buyer.

My "opinion" is (and its just that).......The seller should send the refund, when it clears, the block will be returned. Thats how the transaction started, so I think its only fair it happens that way. I am NOT calling the selller a liar, cheat or a scammer. The buyer doesnt trust him because of the what has already happened. Problem is now, the seller doesnt trust the buyer because of this thread and all the headaches.......along with he believes he should have asked for pics and part numbers to start with. At this point.....none of this matters. Someone has to step up and be the bigger person and start the reverse transaction.

Buyer / Seller: You guys can handle this offline between the two of you. My offer still stands to be the middle man and hold the money until the deal is complete.

You want my help....just let me know.

Thanks!
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I must be stupid or something. THE GUY WHO SOLD THE WRONG BLOCK WANTS HIS BLOCK BEFORE SENDING THE MONEY BACK????????
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FU$%&#@ING KIDDING ME. YOU HOSE THE GUY AND THEN WANT BOTH HIS MONEY AND YOUR BLOCK BACK???? YA, YOU PROVED YOUR TRUST WORTHY SO FAR........... STOP BEING A PECKER HEAD AND EITHER SEND THE MONEY OR USE THE MOD AS A MIDDLE MAN. YOU ARE BEYOND WRONG FOR NOT CLEARING THIS UP
 

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I must be stupid or something. THE GUY WHO SOLD THE WRONG BLOCK WANTS HIS BLOCK BEFORE SENDING THE MONEY BACK????????
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FU$%&#@ING KIDDING ME. YOU HOSE THE GUY AND THEN WANT BOTH HIS MONEY AND YOUR BLOCK BACK???? YA, YOU PROVED YOUR TRUST WORTHY SO FAR........... STOP BEING A PECKER HEAD AND EITHER SEND THE MONEY OR USE THE MOD AS A MIDDLE MAN. YOU ARE BEYOND WRONG FOR NOT CLEARING THIS UP
Seems pretty obvious doesn't it.
 

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I pmd orange88 yesterday,like he said to do.Nothing.I told moderator I agree to him holding money till I ship block.Nothing.I have fully done whatever I can do to resolve this.I have called,pm'd,used a moderator(at his suggestion).THIS IS WHY I POSTED EARLY,I KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN THAT BLOCK ROLLED IN.Damn this ain't rocket science.Anybody that thinks he is a still a standup guy and not a scammer,there is plenty of room below!!
 
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