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I have a 302 based 8.2 deck Dart block combo...11.0 compression
Ran it N/A & made around 500 rwhp.

I had then engine built (Fordstrokers) to take a 300 shot so theres no worries there.

I want to start off with a small shot (100) until I can learn how to tune with it and make some headway. Ive been searching a ton on a kit that would work well for me & came up with this. Let me know what you guys think. Does anybody know offhand how thick the palte is in this kit?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NEX-60040-10/

Ive also considered sending my Super Vic EFI intake to IS or NX and having them install a spray bar in the intake.

Heres a pic of my setup:



Thoughts, suggestions......?

I sent Steve @ IS here a pm a few days ago about possibly installing a spray bar in my Super Vic but havent heard back yet.

Thanks!

Robert
 

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Nx does make a good product and their tuneups are preety good out of the box. That being said what I don't like is that they use a different shape jet than most others and it can be dificult to get when you're in a pinch. I personally prefer bar style plates especially the double cross style ones. In my opinion their distribution is unmatched by other style plates. For a nitrous newbie I would definitely consider giving Steve at IS a call, he's got a few different style plates that will fit your needs and he takes all the guesswork out of it for you, it would be worth the extra$$ you will end up paying. Good luck.
 

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Nx does make a good product and their tuneups are preety good out of the box. That being said what I don't like is that they use a different shape jet than most others and it can be dificult to get when you're in a pinch. I personally prefer bar style plates especially the double cross style ones. In my opinion their distribution is unmatched by other style plates. For a nitrous newbie I would definitely consider giving Steve at IS a call, he's got a few different style plates that will fit your needs and he takes all the guesswork out of it for you, it would be worth the extra$$ you will end up paying. Good luck.
So most other Nitrous jets are all the same besides the NX pieces?

I understand that IS is the shit but I just wandered if going that far would be overkill for an absolute max of a 300 shot? I plan on starting off with a 100 shot & gradually working up to 150-200-250....etc.. But I wont ever go past 300 and I just want to stay with a single stage at this point.

Thank you for the response! :D
 

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Yes as far as i know nx, nitrous works and compucar are the only ones that use that oddball jet. Everyone else uses the normal jet. That edelbrock rpm II kit is a good one, probably one of the best single bar style kits out there. IS also takes that kit further and does his own mods to it which they call their realstreet kit, http://www.induction-solutions.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=14&products_id=250

I have the old Nos double cross plate which is also a single stage. I pieced this kit together myself little by little as Im a poor guy and cant afford to buy the whole kit at once. Its the old version of this, http://www.holley.com/02153NOS.asp, IS also have their own version of the crossbar plate.

Dont concern yourself too much with the advertised numbers of a given kit. In most cases they can be jetted down lower or even higher of their advertised numbers depending on the solenoids and lines used. I do believe that for what you want to do the rpmII plate will fill your needs.
 

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I really like the looks of this kit:

http://www.induction-solutions.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=14&products_id=248

And for everything thats included in the kit the price doesn't seem to bad.

I hope Steve chimes in here & gives his thoughts of running this kit compared to having the spray bar mounted in my Super Vic intake. I'm already running very tight on hood clearance so getting the spray bar mounted in the intake could save me the 1/2" of what the spray bar is.

Thank you guys for your input!
 

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Do yourself a favor and run a seperate fuel system for the nitrous. That high pressure fuel is a pita.
A seperate fuel system?

Cant I branch off of one of my dual -6 lines that run into the engine bay?
I have a sump that is -10 that Y's off into dual -6's and then each -6 run into external Walbro pump....each pump feeds a rail......-6 from the pump to the rail & then out the other side of the rail to the regulator & then from the regulator to return line...-6 also.
This dual pump set-up is suppose to be good to 1000 hp.
Its the Glenns kit:


http://www.glennsperformance.com/product_info.php?cPath=62&products_id=61

Not sure what id have to do or if I had to modify something to work properly?
 

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Do yourself a favor and run a seperate fuel system for the nitrous. That high pressure fuel is a pita.
I absolutely agree with this statement, a front mounted 1 gallon cell and a holley blue would be just the ticket for this.
 

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A seperate fuel system?

Cant I branch off of one of my dual -6 lines that run into the engine bay?
I have a sump that is -10 that Y's off into dual -6's and then each -6 run into external Walbro pump....each pump feeds a rail......-6 from the pump to the rail & then out the other side of the rail to the regulator & then from the regulator to return line...-6 also.
This dual pump set-up is suppose to be good to 1000 hp.
Its the Glenns kit:


http://www.glennsperformance.com/product_info.php?cPath=62&products_id=61

Not sure what id have to do or if I had to modify something to work properly?
That would still be a high pressure setup and would be difficult to tune especially with a plate designed for a carburetor. Heres a pic of my setup look at the lower left part of the pic and follow below the aluminum tank to the pump to the line going to the regulator in front of the intake to the solenoid. A setup like this is a must imo for your setup with fuel injection/ carburetor plate setup.

 

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Doesnt seem like many guys are keen on having the spray bar mounted in the lower intake....?

Any opinions on the shark nozzle systems i posted above?

Mount the shark nozzle either in my elbow upper or in my intake pipe before the throttle body?
 

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I absolutely agree with this statement, a front mounted 1 gallon cell and a holley blue would be just the ticket for this.
x3. In Liberty Dan
 

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I am having NX put a spray bar in my intake right now. I'll let you know after its together, but its supposed to be good up to 500 horsepower. I'll probably keep it at 300 or below, but we'll see. I was running a cold fusion plate and mine is a dominator setup.
 

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The spray bar in the intake would still need a seperate fuel system. I would go direct port instead on that. The nozzle will work but I have only been around people using them for 150 shots.
 

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The nozzles in the intake pipe do work but to an extent but distribution is not the best you are limiting yourself in gains and will never hit as hard or work nearly as good as a good plate. You have the perfect combination to have the best of both worlds so why limit yourself with a nozzle? If clearance is an issue you can either get 3/4" drop mounts from holcomb motorsports or k-member spacers that drop your whole kmember for clearance.http://fordifiedracing.homestead.com/kitinfo.html
If you end up getting one you will be happy with it at first since you have no experience with nitrous but as you learn more and more and want to step it up more you will only regret buying that and wish you have gotten a plate in the first place. Why is it that youre against getting a separate fuel system its quite simple safe,fairly cheap and will make tuning the car easy with all the information that is available here. Remember the most popular nitrous systems are either a plate or a fogger and this place is like an encyclopedia of information for both. Heres what you would need

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RCI-2010D/

if you want to keep it fancy looking you could get this

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RCI-2010A/

filter, mount this before the pump
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-230104/

holley blue comes with regulator

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HLY-12-802-1/

this one will save you a few bucks and I believe its the same with summit brand on it.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G3136-2/

This is all you would need plus the braided lines and fittings that go along with it. Run a -8 from the cell to the filter to the pump and make sure you mount the pump lower than the cell the stock emmission canister bracket that came on the passenger side of these cars is a great place for the pump.From the pump you can use a -6 to the regulator and then to the solenoid.

I love this setup on my car especially that I can run pump gas in my main tank to drive around in and I can get away with a 200 shot if i put c16 in the front little tank with conservative timing for those occasional runs in "mexico".

This is the absolute best advice that I can give you you can take it or leave it but believe me when I tell you if you go this route you wont regret it and help is ALOT easier to get this way as far as nitrous tuning goes especially when you step it up. Good luck
 

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I like this good info and thank you ,looking at this idea my friend suggested this looks neat and tidy as well
 
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