[Monty M]

4.12 @ 188 the first run ever on 10.5's, and 1.04 4.00 @ 194 by the fourth run, but unfortunately fought transmission issues all through the next 2 races. Definitely not easy, definitely not as fast as the radial, but I think we could have made some noise

I'm sure you guys will knock it outta the park. Absolutely no doubt about that.. but these tires are simply tougher to get down the track.. from tuning all the way to driving.. as you now know..

 

[Monty M]

Simple same track ducks rules vs cecil rules if the rvw guys have to back it down to not nock the tires off thats fine will put a .70s car into the .90s

Makes sense.. Promods with no restrictions vs back half stock wheel base cars with turbo and blower limits..

Next class will be Funny car vs Pro Stock..

Stay tuned..

 

[Monty M]

I would think it would be close to running NMCA events and we have run a good number of 3.9x passes and 4.00s all day. If you look at the fast 10.5 passes it seems they stick the tire like a radial anyhow. But I am just a no talent radial tuner haha, so what do I know.

What's all that black rubber those 10.5 guys are leaving on the track? :-D

 

[Deadhook]

Find out how many motors he went threw that at no mercy and report back to us.....

None motor was fine. How does that grab you

 

[Deadhook]

Take all the "special" prep & 500 gallons of glue away & let's see how they do. If it's a superior tire, why not run it on the same prep as everyone else gets on slick tires? What am I missing?

Yes we did that at petes raice at cecil 10.5 vs radial. No special prep and won.

 

[Monty M]

Yes we did that at petes raice at cecil 10.5 vs radial. No special prep and won.

I think the tires are about even (provided the same rules) between the two tires on a 10.5 prep.... On a sticky surface it's no contest..

 

[B.A.Carty]

Simple same track ducks rules vs cecil rules if the rvw guys have to back it down to not nock the tires off thats fine will put a .70s car into the .90s

You cant be serious right?
You want twin 106mm turbos to run at the same weight at twin 88s on a 10.5 car?

 

[David Hance]

Do you still have your 10.5 mustang dave?

Yes I still have our 2006 10.5 Mustang. I really wish I could have made YB Nats & World Cup but was not to be this year.

 

[Monty M]

Yes I still have our 2006 10.5 Mustang. I really wish I could have made YB Nats & World Cup but was not to be this year.

You better be there in 2018!! Otherwise I'm coming over and racing it myself!!! :-D:-D

 

[7.3 DIESEL]

Yes I still have our 2006 10.5 Mustang. I really wish I could have made YB Nats & World Cup but was not to be this year.

Good to hear you still got it. Hopefully we get to see you out in it next year

 

[B.A.Carty]

woody just went 3.96 in outlaw 10.5 trim, which is about a tenth and change of his radial numbers

 

[bobr]

woody just went 3.96 in outlaw 10.5 trim, which is about a tenth and change of his radial numbers

There were two competitive radial cars at SCSN. Woody(who switched back to the radial) and Mike Keenan. Neither of them were around for the final. The prep matters but the radial tires aren't slugs on non-radial prepped surfaces. That said these are two different classes and should be run as two different classes.

 

[63Steve]

I agree the tire has its own class and should stay that way in my opinion!Vegas track is one of those tracks that is always has a good prepped track so a radial tire would have a bit of advantage if they tried to lay the coals to it ,not sure about Woodys down low numbers but Keenan was 115-119 sixty foot on his passes!That car was making some steam at the 330 and on

 

[StreetShaker]

I agree the tire has its own class and should stay that way in my opinion!Vegas track is one of those tracks that is always has a good prepped track so a radial tire would have a bit of advantage if they tried to lay the coals to it ,not sure about Woodys down low numbers but Keenan was 115-119 sixty foot on his passes!That car was making some steam at the 330 and on

Keenan's 60' was 1.122 in quarterfinals against me.

 

[BCRaider]

woody just went 3.96 in outlaw 10.5 trim, which is about a tenth and change of his radial numbers

not 100% sure but I do believe Woody's 3.96 was in a radial setup
!!

 

[B.A.Carty]

not 100% sure but I do believe Woody's 3.96 was in a radial setup
!!

Yep, which kinda shows you whats going on between the slick and radial.
- Woody shows up with slicks and wheelie bars ready to run 10.5, Made a couple passes, couldn't figure it out(for whatever reason) and went back to the radial and did well in qualy

 

[bobr]

Yep, which kinda shows you whats going on between the slick and radial.
- Woody shows up with slicks and wheelie bars ready to run 10.5, Made a couple passes, couldn't figure it out(for whatever reason) and went back to the radial and did well in qualy[/QUOte

Yep. It's hard to believe there aren't enough true Outlaw 10.5 cars to field the class but since I'm not an East Coast racer my input doesn't carry any weight out there. I was pissed at Mel for including them at SCSN. Many of the other racers were too. The Canadians especially. They haul down several cars every years and really support the race. We'll see if that continues now.

 

[StreetShaker]

Yep, which kinda shows you whats going on between the slick and radial.
- Woody shows up with slicks and wheelie bars ready to run 10.5, Made a couple passes, couldn't figure it out(for whatever reason) and went back to the radial and did well in qualy[/QUOte

Yep. It's hard to believe there aren't enough true Outlaw 10.5 cars to field the class but since I'm not an East Coast racer my input doesn't carry any weight out there. I was pissed at Mel for including them at SCSN. Many of the other racers were too. The Canadians especially. They haul down several cars every years and really support the race. We'll see if that continues now.

Bob I'm pretty sure that big majority of 10.5 cars from Pacific NW will not haul to Vegas next year if Mel allows radial tire again.

Paja

 

[bobr]

Can someone give me a link to the complete Outlaw 10.5 rules page?

 

[Bigtime]

Can someone give me a link to the complete Outlaw 10.5 rules page?

http://www.cecilcountydragway.com/pdfs/2017/2017-strange-engineering.pdf