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Indiana passes bill to DRUG TEST welfare recipients !!

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And it will end up costing taxpayers 1.2 Million every year in the end for all the tests. This was NOT in this article but here are the money #'s

The House approved the bill despite a legislative staff financial analysis that showed the state would spend $2.7 million on the program to possibly the save the state $1.5 million in denied benefits. That means the state would lose $1.2 million next year if the bill were to become law.
 
Those numbers dont seem to make sense to me.

Even if it cost a grand per drug test....thats 1200 test that they can afford to give at 1.2 mil.

Thats a LOT for a drug test

some info I found says the average welfare payment for a family of four is 346 a month. Combined with 668 in food stamps, about 1,014 a month is available.

So....out of the 1200 people tested.....say 300 people cant pass. 25%. I dunno maybe thats a high estimate. Then again...maybe its low.

How long do they lose benefits for? Say....they arent eligible for 6 months.

300 people at 1014 a month times 6 months makes for a savings of 1,825,200.

Now you spent 1.2 mil to save that 1.8 so its roughly a 600k real world savings.

Keep in mind though....I used a super high estimate for the cost of the drug test ;)

in reality the test is going to be cheaper by a large amount. So even if less fail.....if they collect anywhere near the average per month...it will be a big savings.

And just to expound further... What if a percentage of those folks losing their assistance actually go out and get work!

Add just a percentage of those people back in to the work force and have them pay taxes, instead of receive taxes......and indirectly.....state revenue grows even further.

And you and I know.....PLENTY of those people are capable of work, and some of them will start to work if they absolutely have to.

Unless the analyst anticipates that very very few people will fail(or get caught)....then I wonder how they came up with the figure that they lose welfare.
"a legislative staff financial analysis" They ran and put out the #'s not me. They are paid to get these #'s close.
 
Im not tryin to shoot the messenger and bust your chops. Im just saying its hard to see where they came up with the numbers.

The variable is people that will fail the drug test. Since we dont know yet...we can only assume. At this point in time, I can make it look like a fuck ton of money will be saved if I choose to "estimate" that damn near all welfare recipients will fail.

I "estimate" haha that my numbers were reasonable enough, and even with an over inflated cost of testing....it still works out in the good.

hell even if it cost the full 2.7 million.......they have to be spending WAAAY more than this on welfare. Something else I read says 13k people are on welfare in indiana. gotta be in the tens of millions spent. wouldnt take many fails to save over 2.7
Here you can read all the cost listed out.
http://www.in.gov/legislative/bills/2013/PDF/FISCAL/HB1483.006.pdf
 
What don't you people understand about the crooked shit that the state will do to employ tons of people to run this at a COST of 1.2 Million per year to the taxpayers in that state? We all know drug store tests cost X amount, but the state will not use those tests. They will use their brother in laws company that makes a test that goes for 1000. Then they will hire 20,30 of their friends to run the deal at cost of 1.8 million.
 
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