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Great for him!

But.... Did he really win that round?

The replay didn't look like it,
 

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The question is, did he win the final?
 

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NHRA said he did. They've never been wrong.
Yes they have!

Remember Steve Johnson in Pro Stock bike several years ago?
 

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The follow-camera angle combined with a very long lense makes the far (left) lane look like it's in front until it gets pointed straight across the track. Since the MOV was a whole 0.0004 seconds (four ten-thousandths for the numerically-challenged, two inches for the really-numerically-challenged), there's no way you can call the winner visually from a freeze-frame video where the noses of both cars are past the finish line. In the previous video frame, they were both short of the finish line.. Sometime between the two frames, they were at the finish line. HDTV frames are approximately .016 seconds apart (non-interlaced) (for the really, really challenged, that's about 40 times the MOV). Maybe if they ran super-slo-mo on a fixed finish line camera located exactly at the finish line and locked down so it was exactly perpendicular to the track, you might be able to tell for sure, but even then the distance between the two lanes distorts the image enough that a two-inch margin would be hard to confirm.

Or you could use two laser beams...wait, that's what they do already.
 

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The follow-camera angle combined with a very long lense makes the far (left) lane look like it's in front until it gets pointed straight across the track. Since the MOV was a whole 0.0004 seconds (four ten-thousandths for the numerically-challenged, two inches for the really-numerically-challenged), there's no way you can call the winner visually from a freeze-frame video where the noses of both cars are past the finish line. In the previous video frame, they were both short of the finish line.. Sometime between the two frames, they were at the finish line. HDTV frames are .033 seconds apart (for the really, really challenged, that's 80 times the MOV). Maybe if they ran super-slo-mo on a fixed finish line camera located exactly at the finish line and locked down so it was exactly perpendicular to the track, you might be able to tell for sure, but even then the distance between the two lanes distorts the image enough that a two-inch margin would be hard to confirm.

Or you could use two laser beams...wait, that's what they do already.
Holy crap!!!
 

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The follow-camera angle combined with a very long lense makes the far (left) lane look like it's in front until it gets pointed straight across the track. Since the MOV was a whole 0.0004 seconds (four ten-thousandths for the numerically-challenged, two inches for the really-numerically-challenged), there's no way you can call the winner visually from a freeze-frame video where the noses of both cars are past the finish line. In the previous video frame, they were both short of the finish line.. Sometime between the two frames, they were at the finish line. HDTV frames are approximately .016 seconds apart (non-interlaced) (for the really, really challenged, that's about 40 times the MOV). Maybe if they ran super-slo-mo on a fixed finish line camera located exactly at the finish line and locked down so it was exactly perpendicular to the track, you might be able to tell for sure, but even then the distance between the two lanes distorts the image enough that a two-inch margin would be hard to confirm.

Or you could use two laser beams...wait, that's what they do already.
LOL!

 

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Just phuckin' with you man!

That was kinda interesting.

But the NHRA and the lights have been wrong before.
 

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Ya, and I picked this weekend to not fly-in to help. Way to go guys!
 

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I was really hoping he could get the win, but even so, making the final was a great accomplishment
For a guy without a mega-dollar budget? You bet!

I was kinda hoping that Force was going to blow the tires off. Unfortunately it went the other way.
 

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Depends on Gary... usually just the west coast stuff with a couple midwest races. Crew is all volunteer. We pay our own way, but we do have fun. Maybe Indy now...
 

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Depends on Gary... usually just the west coast stuff with a couple midwest races. Crew is all volunteer. We pay our own way, but we do have fun. Maybe Indy now...
Cool!

Hope to see Gary at Indy.
 

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Just phuckin' with you man!

That was kinda interesting.

But the NHRA and the lights have been wrong before.
If you ignore the ten-thousandths, it's a dead-heat. Just think of it as a high-tech coinflip (cuz they ain't gonna rerun the round).

When you get one that close, I hate to see anybody lose, but I was glad to see the old man go to the final round. Call it a personal bias in favor of old farts.
 

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If you ignore the ten-thousandths, it's a dead-heat. Just think of it as a high-tech coinflip (cuz they ain't gonna rerun the round).

When you get one that close, I hate to see anybody lose, but I was glad to see the old man go to the final round. Call it a personal bias in favor of old farts.
If you wanna get technical, Densham's car was quicker than Force's on that run. Gary cut a shitty light and still made it that close.
 
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