I ended up with a vanson suit. Two piece with elbow, shoulder and knee padding. Most guys don't get it but I'm 51 and break easier lol. I also wear a front/rear body armor piece under the suit. Glad I had the chest piece the one time I slammed down from a starting line wheelie and smacked the tank hard. The armor is removable so if I don't like it I can pull it out and just deal with the loose fit.