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· ls1 s/s notch on 28s
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Redcam622 an me where just talking an ive noticed how there is a shortage of head up racing in this area..i said to him maybe we can get a heads up series going once a month or once every 2 months just something.
im thinking along the lines of a heads up madness series style that my old home track ran...so outlaw promod,outlaw radial,275 real street style rules but more open.maybe a 8.5 class an 10.5 outlaw with 6.50 index...if you would be interested post up..if we get enough interest then maybe we can show labonon valley the thread or something..i say labonon because its in a good location for travel wise on all the new england peeps
 

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That sounds like an awesome idea. In my opinion New England Dragway is a far superior track for an series like this, but that's just my opinion. I would like to hear more about the ideas for the classes and stuff.
 

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hey
i'd come up for that , or i really mean down,
it only a 5 or 6 hrs trip from montreal , i'm in hampton beack 5 or 6 times a year with the family , i would deff . be into that

i don't now where lebonon is , but i ll look it up

i always that the 89 thruogh vermont
 

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New England Dragway still has QUICK STREET and QUICK STREET OUTLAW. I think they race this coming weekend as a matter of fact.. Im sure some of the guys running that would be willing to travel to Lebanon Valley to race some new blood..
 

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I would love to see more of this in this area. Unfortunately I dont have anything to compete with...The chevelle will be a street car with no cage when its done, and the bike obviously doesnt fit in, but I would spectate for sure! :)
 

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Every one that has been to LVD,knows it can be as good a track as any in the country...the facility is very nice and the track itself is fine...they don't prep it well enough for high hp cars...but anyone who was at 1320x last year will tell you that it was awesome,and they can do it if they want. It's in a good central location and there's plenty of interest. and maybe if there's enough interest from the bike crowd there could be a pro-street kinda thing for them too. The track would love it cause it's the only racin that packs the stands..
 

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Minus the bathrooms, I love LVD, especially since the resurface. I agree that's probably the best location to get racers form all over New England, NY, NJ, and even Canada. I don't know why they haven't set up something like this yet, because it does draw massive crowds like you said... I'd love to see this happen...
 

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I'd make the trip to race, any chance of say an 11.5 index, up at NED we usually have anywhere from 10-16 cars show up for the Real Street Class (11.5), they have index's from 11.5 to 8.5. I could bump up the shot and possibly run a 10.5 class but i don't know how long my motor would last haha.
 

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They are using new track bite stuff. I dont know the name but have heard good things about it. I know I was hooking the last time out. My friend car never goes up and last time out he had his best 60ft. They do need new bathrooms 4 sure. Other then that its nice place. ALSO they need to get rid of all those trailers that stay their. Makes parking a bitch


Maybe a $1500 race for s/s cars with D/R or 10.5 and see what happens. that would be it for rules
see what happens. See how many cars show up and charge from that.
 

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New England Dragway already offers heads up racing. Outlaw Racing Corp. has been sponsoring such events for the past 3 years. Classes are as 11.50,10.50,9.50,8.50, and Outlaw 10.5. Each race we've had atleast 50 car plus totals combined. New England Dragway has a beautiful facility, that is always prepped nicely. Richie DeMarco and Jim Satori from Outlaw Racing Corp. Have been doing an outstanding Job with these classes and are continuing to help Heads-Up racing grow up here in the North East.
 

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^where i'm from that is not outlaw racing..that would be called a index race with 10.5 as a filler..

i'm talking about heads up style racing with maybe 2 index classes as fillers..

I have not contacted any track or talked to anyone about this but redcam622 and yall now..i just would love to see southern style racing up here..

Now heres a big qustion for you guys..would you want the program for 1/4 or 1/8th?

I like 1/8th because it will keep cost down in these ruff times we are in..lets face it not every one has the cash to go racing..i just found a job up here an am looking at a 2nd full time job just so i can build a car to race come may at ortc.

the 1/8th mile stuff will also keep some of the guys from having to have a 25.5 chassis which cost alot of cash.

i love 1/4 racing but i'm thinking of what would be better on the avg racers pockets in these times.the more people we can get to race the better i think.

Now for the classes i'm thinking of

Outlaw promod =
anything goes door cars
top sportsman saftey specs apply

Outlaw 10.5 =door cars only
3000#s
10.5s tires
some form of working headlights an tail lights
mufflers

Outlaw stock suspension
ortc rules would apply for suspension an body
3000 sb n2o
3200 bb n2o
3400 sb or bb boosted
any size radial or true 10.5
-100# for leafs
+ 100 # for camaro suspension in vette..late model suspension in early model car..or cross bread suspension.
+ 100 for true back half ladder bar cars with stock rear floor..not tin work from driver back

True street
ortc real street rules for body an suspension
any size 275 radail or 28x10 slick
n/a small blocks 2800
n/a big blocks 3000 convent heads only
n2o small blocks 3100
n2o big blocks 3400 convent heads only
boosted small blocks 3150

power adder rules
single fuel an nitrous bar plates limited to 1 stage no x style plates .110 jet max on sb an a .83 on bb
turbos are limited to true 80mm turbos
blowers are limited to f1r's or equal

6.50 index
ortc rule

7.50 index
ortc rules


tell me what you think..its just ideas for the classes off the top of my head.i'm sure there can be changes..i think the rules for the series if started should be vote style by the racers..not one person should be in charge of rules or one small group..this way it will eliminate people who want to help there buddys out by adj rules an such to make them run better on the field an such..

these are just my idea..dont hold anything againest me.
 

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also i like the idea of a street bike class..

maybe something like
dot approved tire
extended swing arms ok
no wheelie bars
no nitro


shit i left out no wheelie bars for true street and outlaw stock suspension
 

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The only way you are gonna get any heads up deal off the ground is:

#1: come up with the sponsors and cash to make payouts to satisy the tracks. They won't spend the money on a whim. You have to have a financial commitment first.

#2: contact tracks and managers you feel are equal distance or interested in to make the effort worth while. You have to show you have the money/sponsors, rules and personnel available.

#3: Find the qualified personnel to police the rules in ALL classes.

Any of the above missing and I feel it won't happen or work.

Talking it nice, plenty of series to pull rules from, but ya gotta do the homework first to make it happen. The first show or so might be dry or loss, but as the series builds and people see that it's not a one or two time deal then cars will come. How did Kevin Costner say it.

Build it and they will come.
 

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The only way you are gonna get any heads up deal off the ground is:

#1: come up with the sponsors and cash to make payouts to satisy the tracks. They won't spend the money on a whim. You have to have a financial commitment first.

#2: contact tracks and managers you feel are equal distance or interested in to make the effort worth while. You have to show you have the money/sponsors, rules and personnel available.

#3: Find the qualified personnel to police the rules in ALL classes.

Any of the above missing and I feel it won't happen or work.

Talking it nice, plenty of series to pull rules from, but ya gotta do the homework first to make it happen. The first show or so might be dry or loss, but as the series builds and people see that it's not a one or two time deal then cars will come. How did Kevin Costner say it.

Build it and they will come.
i understand that..this thread is to build interest..remember what the real street guys did.they came up with there own purse to use..

i forgot the deal..im sure i can ask one of the real street guys.

i dont think anyone is trying to turn this into a series of track racing like nmca or ram racing..single track series type deal

as for policeing that could be handeld by some one for sure or be policed by each other..thats how real street was at first.


i like the 8.5 deal..seem most of them would be where the 275 cars would be for times though..
 

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New England Dragway already offers heads up racing. Outlaw Racing Corp. has been sponsoring such events for the past 3 years. Classes are as 11.50,10.50,9.50,8.50, and Outlaw 10.5. Each race we've had atleast 50 car plus totals combined. New England Dragway has a beautiful facility, that is always prepped nicely. Richie DeMarco and Jim Satori from Outlaw Racing Corp. Have been doing an outstanding Job with these classes and are continuing to help Heads-Up racing grow up here in the North East.
its not real heads up ..just index racing...you break out you lose..just like bracket racing.
 
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