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i had atop of the line trane heater and a/c unit installed may of 2007. the coil for the a/c unit went last year, now the heat exchanger in the heater went. trane is trying not not warrant this last problem. what a piece of junk, myold stuff never gave me any problems.
 

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Better get a second opinion on that heat exchanger. I never see them go out anymore they are making them a lot better than the old days. We have seen some evaporators leaking with the new 410a change due to the higher pressures. Mostly carriers though.
 

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i had atop of the line trane heater and a/c unit installed may of 2007. the coil for the a/c unit went last year, now the heat exchanger in the heater went. trane is trying not not warrant this last problem. what a piece of junk, myold stuff never gave me any problems.

The exchanger should be under warranty give me the model and serial # and I will check for you. I am a Trane Comfort Specialist and will assure you that Trane will back there product 100%.
 

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Better get a second opinion on that heat exchanger. I never see them go out anymore they are making them a lot better than the old days. We have seen some evaporators leaking with the new 410a change due to the higher pressures. Mostly carriers though.

I have seen several Carrier heat exchangers go bad in the last 5 years. Carrier had to extend their warranty from 20 to lifetime on their heat exchangers to satisfy a class action law suit.

We are a Carrier dealer, and due to the piss poor quality of their product (their coils are made in Mexico) I sell exclusively York to my customers. As far as Trane, they are ususlly really good.

Hey Carrier corporation, GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!
 

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I also had a Trane installed in 2007 and have had zero issues with it. I believe that Comfort Specialists did it.
 

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There is a huge difference between a Trane dealer and a comfort specialist. Most customers don't realize that. If is done by a TCS Dealer I can assure you its done right. (well its suppose to be)
 

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I have a trane a/c unit and a furnace,both installed in 2002. What pieces of SHIT! The furnace goes out every year on the coldest and every summer the a/c unit has a problem! I would never use them again!!!
 

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I have had a Trane since 2005. Over the last year and a half it's cost me over and addtitional $500 in parts to keep it working. The high limmit switch still is not working correctly. They had to install a 175 degree switch because they couldn't figure why the 130 was tripping. Total Piece of Shit
 

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The only reason I see the heat exchanger going bad this soon would be a poor install.It could have been a really high temp rise,evap pan leaking and dumping water on top of the heat exchanger.Is there any evidence of water in the blower compartment?I won't sell trane or lennox unless the customer is dead set on having it.
 

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I have two trane heat pumps, 17 years and still going strong.
 

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the trane repair guy was at my house this morning. he could not replace the heat exchanger because there was no gasket supplied with the new unit. My high limit device has been changed already and there is no water or condensation leaking onto the unit.
 

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I have a trane a/c unit and a furnace,both installed in 2002. What pieces of SHIT! The furnace goes out every year on the coldest and every summer the a/c unit has a problem! I would never use them again!!!

Proper installation has alot to do with equipment performance or lack there of.

I can assure you that TRANE makes some of the best commercial equipment money can buy, now unless there is some completely seperate bastard stepchild division that makes their residential stuff I would say its the best too.
 

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the trane repair guy was at my house this morning. he could not replace the heat exchanger because there was no gasket supplied with the new unit. My high limit device has been changed already and there is no water or condensation leaking onto the unit.
Make him show you the crack. If it is bad you really need to check the temp rise and the flames. It is not normal for them to fail so quick. Trust me they will send it in to have it checked out. There are cheep tranes as well as nice ones, get the good stuff not the builders crap.
 

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Tell'm Frige... Any manufacture will take care of a heat exchaner that has failed in less than 3 years. I find it hard to believe that it has failed. Get a 2nd opinion.

Hitchcock post above cracks me up. He states "We are a Carrier dealer, and due to the piss poor quality of their product (their coils are made in Mexico) I sell exclusively York to my customers."

Now to be a Carrier dealer I assume he means a "Carrier Factory Authorized Dealer" (CFAD for short) he has to pay a mininium of $5OO0 a year. Now why would you pay $5000 or more to be a Carrier dealer and then sell York. Does not make any sense.
 

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we install Trane almost exclusively...but we do the install the correct way and have very little problems...
 

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I haved worked on several Trane RTU's enough to know they are solid quality. I don't know about residential, but commercially they are very good.
 

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I am an American Standard dealer ( same as Trane) and I am a Customer Care Dealer. I have been since a dealer since 1978 when it was GE. If you lost the heat exchanger, its very rare. I have only had a handful in almost 30 years. Generally they fail due to contamination (bleach and or household chemicals) make hydrochloric acid and water when burned or oversizing and shortcycling causing condensation in the heat exchanger (more acid) shortning the life of the exchanger. Both of these cause pin holes in the exchanger. If the exchanger is cracked, high tempeture rise, misadjusted gas pressure, constant dirty filters will cause metal fatique. The newer type (last 10+ years) exchangers are mandrel bent and not welded like the old type. Cracks are seldom a defective excahnger. Natural gas or propane?, where do you live?, does your utilty use alternate fuels to increase line pressure in the winter (this is new problem) and the btu out put can vary by as much as 20% causing problems. When your installer finishes, insist on him checking incoming and manifold gas pressure and then tempeture rise, check the area for any solvents or cleaning fluids and get them away. (Drier sheets, bleach, solvents, etc..). Last of all make sure that adaqute combustion air is availible. ( maximum temp.rise is on the name plate, stay away from the max. by at least 15 degrees on a long cycle)
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I feel for you guys, I bought a Goodman (top of the line baby!) A/C and Gas furnace online and installed it myself (yesterday I could not even spell HVAC today I is a technician) and its been 6 years without a problem....
 
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