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Ok myself and several other car owners saw somthing interesting Fri? 3 of us have cars that would do quite well in AM, but because of logestics, chose not to modify our cars to fit within the rules, when we spend more time at our perspective track! but! (this is were all your whinning can start) who polices the cars for infractions ? like Tires ? wheelie bar lenth? and that really tough one to spot Lexan windows....Oh yea and 1.30 60 ft at 174 MPH for the win ? is there a weight penalty or a fee we need to pay some one to get them to look the other way treatment!

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Come on spill it.Some of us aren't as smart as you, what are the infractions?
 

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Wait I thought it was the 68 camaro that wasn't supposed to run that kind of speed and ET on motor? Your accusations just aren't adding up.. I guess it's just easier to race out of a parts catalog and be average and point your finger at anyone who uses that thing found between their ears instead of being a real dedicated heads up racer? Thanks to everyone for the congratulations, Vince did a hell of a job friday night and for everyone else I hope we can line up against you next month in support of Milan's heads up series.
 

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Ok myself and several other car owners saw somthing interesting Fri? 3 of us have cars that would do quite well in AM, but because of logestics, chose not to modify our cars to fit within the rules, when we spend more time at our perspective track! but! (this is were all your whinning can start) who polices the cars for infractions ? like Tires ? wheelie bar lenth? and that really tough one to spot Lexan windows....Oh yea and 1.30 60 ft at 174 MPH for the win ? is there a weight penalty or a fee we need to pay some one to get them to look the other way treatment!​



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Maybe you can start with a better engine builder! Did you notice the winning car had no bars!:smt097
 

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Ok myself and several other car owners saw somthing interesting Fri? 3 of us have cars that would do quite well in AM, but because of logestics, chose not to modify our cars to fit within the rules, when we spend more time at our perspective track! but! (this is were all your whinning can start) who polices the cars for infractions ? like Tires ? wheelie bar lenth? and that really tough one to spot Lexan windows....Oh yea and 1.30 60 ft at 174 MPH for the win ? is there a weight penalty or a fee we need to pay some one to get them to look the other way treatment!​




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Maybe you can start with a better engine builder! Did you notice the winning car had no bars!:smt097
 

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here are the rules ...Lexan is permitted except the front windshield ??

Liberty's Gears All Motor - AM
1/4 Mile - .400 Pro Tree - 16 Car Qualified Field - Pro Ladder

Rules are subject to change at any time.

Base Weights
Small Block minimum weight 2800 pounds
Big Block minimum weight 3300 pounds
Big Block Chevy, Mopar, Ford, with conventional OEM style heads minimum weight 3150 pounds
Big Block Buick, Oldsmobile & Pontiac with conventional OEM style heads minimum weight 3075 pounds
Lower Engine Containment Device Required:

Oil Retention Device: Device may be custom-built ballistic blanket-style or metal-style (I.e., bucket) device. Metal pan may be no longer than the engine from the front of crank shaft to the rear of the flywheel. Pan must be inside the frame rails and fabricated to retain oil\liquid. Pan must attach to the frame via conventional fasteners or straps. Pan must be a minimum of 3inches above ground.
Diapers: They do not have to be SFI rated.

Carburetors
Carburetors: Single carburetor allowed. Any modifications are allowed. No split carburetors allowed.
Fuel Injection: Electronic fuel injection is allowed. Single throttle body required.

Intake Manifolds: No restrictions

Mufflers: Not required

Transmissions
Auto Transmissions: Any OEM American automatic transmission or a replica of an OEM American automatic transmission that uses planetary gears and torque converter permitted. Transmission-to-engine adapters are permitted. Trans brakes permitted. Automatic transmission entries run at listed base weights. Pneumatic, electric, hydraulic, etc. shifters prohibited. Any gear change must occur from direct action by the driver.

Manual Transmissions: OEM or aftermarket transmissions with a maximum of 5 forward speeds permitted. Clutchless models permitted. Any gear change must occur from direct action by the driver. Pneumatic, electric, hydraulic, etc. shifters prohibited. Vehicles using Clutchless manual transmission must add 50 lbs to listed base weight.

Front End: Stock frame rail from firewall forward required. Firewall to remain in the original location. Bolt-on replacement units allowed. This needs to be verified in tech that the bolt on factory mounting point are used with the bolts present.

Front Suspension: Any type of suspension is allowed

Rear Suspension
Stock Suspension: Deduct 25 pounds from base weight
Ladder Bar: Runs at base weight
4-Link: Add 75 pounds to base weight

Wheelie Bars: Wheels must be non-metallic. May not be attached to rear bumper or bumper braces. May be 48 inches in length or to the rear bumper, whichever is longer. Length is checked from centerline of rear axle to center of wheelie-bar wheel.
Add 50 pounds from base weight if using wheelie bars

Rear Tires
Slicks only drag radials prohibited. Actual measured tread of tire is limited to 10.75 inches by 30.5 inches tall. Tire will be measured by a “go-no go” gauge at scale after run.

Body
Exterior:
Body panels can be replaced with factory appearing bolt-on replacements. No one piece front ends - Aftermarket front end that is all connected together (both fenders and nose).
OEM style forward facing hood scoop are allowed, Pro Stock style forward facing hood scoops are allowed, add 100 pounds to the base weight.

Glass: Lexan is allowed in the doors, side widows and the back

Interior: Stock appearing interior required, including two front seats.
MUST MEET ALL NHRA RULES INCLUDING LICENSE AND CERTIFICATION
 

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I dont beleve ive ever seen a car outside of them rules running . if you ask me the rules are loose if its the bars pull them off ang go racing
 

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Ok, back from Vacation, and had some time to ponder if its worth it! and decided that most of you guys working your buts off to compete deserve a good snitch! so here goes Hint number one and two, if they show up at the next heads up check out the top 8 cars look thru the frt windshield and just guess at the sissy bar lenth !!!!
 

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Who gives a shit. Just race.
 

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here are the rules ...Lexan is permitted except the front windshield ??

Liberty's Gears All Motor - AM
1/4 Mile - .400 Pro Tree - 16 Car Qualified Field - Pro Ladder

Rules are subject to change at any time.

Base Weights
Small Block minimum weight 2800 pounds
Big Block minimum weight 3300 pounds
Big Block Chevy, Mopar, Ford, with conventional OEM style heads minimum weight 3150 pounds
Big Block Buick, Oldsmobile & Pontiac with conventional OEM style heads minimum weight 3075 pounds
Lower Engine Containment Device Required:

Oil Retention Device: Device may be custom-built ballistic blanket-style or metal-style (I.e., bucket) device. Metal pan may be no longer than the engine from the front of crank shaft to the rear of the flywheel. Pan must be inside the frame rails and fabricated to retain oil\liquid. Pan must attach to the frame via conventional fasteners or straps. Pan must be a minimum of 3inches above ground.
Diapers: They do not have to be SFI rated.

Carburetors
Carburetors: Single carburetor allowed. Any modifications are allowed. No split carburetors allowed.
Fuel Injection: Electronic fuel injection is allowed. Single throttle body required.

Intake Manifolds: No restrictions

Mufflers: Not required

Transmissions
Auto Transmissions: Any OEM American automatic transmission or a replica of an OEM American automatic transmission that uses planetary gears and torque converter permitted. Transmission-to-engine adapters are permitted. Trans brakes permitted. Automatic transmission entries run at listed base weights. Pneumatic, electric, hydraulic, etc. shifters prohibited. Any gear change must occur from direct action by the driver.

Manual Transmissions: OEM or aftermarket transmissions with a maximum of 5 forward speeds permitted. Clutchless models permitted. Any gear change must occur from direct action by the driver. Pneumatic, electric, hydraulic, etc. shifters prohibited. Vehicles using Clutchless manual transmission must add 50 lbs to listed base weight.

Front End: Stock frame rail from firewall forward required. Firewall to remain in the original location. Bolt-on replacement units allowed. This needs to be verified in tech that the bolt on factory mounting point are used with the bolts present.

Front Suspension: Any type of suspension is allowed

Rear Suspension
Stock Suspension: Deduct 25 pounds from base weight
Ladder Bar: Runs at base weight
4-Link: Add 75 pounds to base weight

Wheelie Bars: Wheels must be non-metallic. May not be attached to rear bumper or bumper braces. May be 48 inches in length or to the rear bumper, whichever is longer. Length is checked from centerline of rear axle to center of wheelie-bar wheel.
Add 50 pounds from base weight if using wheelie bars

Rear Tires
Slicks only drag radials prohibited. Actual measured tread of tire is limited to 10.75 inches by 30.5 inches tall. Tire will be measured by a “go-no go” gauge at scale after run.

Body
Exterior:
Body panels can be replaced with factory appearing bolt-on replacements. No one piece front ends - Aftermarket front end that is all connected together (both fenders and nose).
OEM style forward facing hood scoop are allowed, Pro Stock style forward facing hood scoops are allowed, add 100 pounds to the base weight.

Glass: Lexan is allowed in the doors, side widows and the back

Interior: Stock appearing interior required, including two front seats.
MUST MEET ALL NHRA RULES INCLUDING LICENSE AND CERTIFICATION
Maybe this very important rule will be enacted.;)
 

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is a Lexan window an advantage ?? car still has to make minimum weight ?? Im just askin ?? If the infraction is a lexan windshield ...thats a pretty weak argument ..
 

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Ok so your complaining about lexan and wheelie bar length? I dont see an advantage in lexan might be some in bar length.
But just show up and race next time and see how you do.
 

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How about this......

ENFORCE THE FUCKING RULES!! (if they are foolish, change or delete them)

NOT enforcing ANY rule deminishes the validity of the other rules.
In other words........why enforce any of them, if they wont do a select few.

Most of the cars in the class fit the rules to a tee. Some stretch the rules, other blatantly break them.

Theres only 5-6 rules anyways.......just enforce them! :rolleyes:

Lastly.....some of these rules were changed recently (without notice), by Jeff Conley. Not sure why some where changed.....there are rumors about why others were changed. Looks like people getting singled out. Not sure why, but sorta looked that way.

PS. Enforce the rules or change them.:p
 
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