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355 sbc build... afr 210s?

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#1 ·
My current setup is 355 withforged internals 6 inch rods.
Old school pro action iron 180s that have been ported.
I have never been real impressed with the heads.
A solid flat tappet cam with around .610 lift.
The heads have been shaved quite a bit and I'm not sure what the chamber is but I do run race gas.

My plan is to step up to a cnc head.
Looking at the afr 210s because they flow decent for the money.
Going to go with a solid roller cam.
The compression ratio will drop due to the chamber volume.
Probably allow for pump gas.

The old combo went a best of 11.96@114
3200 pounds
4500 stall, foot braked
4.11 gear, 28 inch tire.

My question is can I gain a second in et?

My goal is 10.9x on motor.
Or should I just wait and build a 383 or 406?
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

Streetability is not really an issue.
I'm not against high rpm either.
I only want to do this to the 355 because that's what I have.
I like the 210s because they would work on a bigger motor in the future.

Any thoughts?
 
#3 ·
how heavy is this car
 
#12 ·
I run Brodix track 1 heads and made 595 hp on my 12.5:1 355.

Afr CnC heads will flow enough for you to make 600hp if you port match the intake...I'd use jesel rockers if I used afr heads. But that's me ...

I'd say you could go more than a second faster.

Call Eric at Erson cams... Hell get you the right can for that motor as well ...

Good luck
 
#17 ·
My 3100# Camaro with a replica of a 70 z/28 shortblock (using SCAT crank and r5.7" ods) Runs 03 octane pump gas.
Canfield 195 heads and a .539/.558" lift 234/242Âş dur HYD Roller cam. 4.10's 10x28's, slapper bars, 10"TCI Super Streetfighter (3500 or so flash) footbrake car
runs lower 11's at 119

So I'd say going to AFR 195 Eliminator heads would drop you in to the 10.9 range.
The AFR's flow a little better than the Canfields at those higher lifts.
 
#21 ·
bad advice.....by the time he buys heads and shaft rockers and all the special parts needed , he will have 4 grand tied up ....only to put on a 355. If he thinks his motor is a turd now, go ahead and stick thoses heads on it and see what happens.

My advice, call afr or chad and tell them your combo and have them pick the right head for your motor. I know all about what a wrong size head can do for a motor.

here is a run down of my motor

.040 bore 350=356
forged eagle crank ...5.7 h-beam rods...10.6 mahale pistons
team g single plane intake #7530 out of box
aed 750 carb
Herbert solid roller 287 int...300exh
@ 050...253...266...604...604....106 lobe
195 runner pro-filer heads ...econo port from chad ( speier racing)
2.02/1.60 valves
1.6 hardland roller rockers

This motor had a set of 215 dart platinum heads with 2.05/1.60 valve in them....best it ever ran was 10.62 @ 2850 lbs

Bought a set of 195 runner heads from chad, it was what he choose from my motor, keep in mind I wanted a set of 210 runners, I went ahead and bought the 195 like he said, no other changes to the motor but head swap.

first pass went 10.25 and I have ran a best of 10.16 @131 all on 93 pump gas.

So my advice would be call one of them and have them choose the correct head for you....spent your money only once and be done.
 
#24 ·
I ran RHS 200cc heads on my 12:1 358". Solid flat tappet. Holley Strip dominator, holley 950. Went 10.50's on a 26x8.5 @ 2950lbs? Went 8.92 on a 250shot
 
#28 ·
3100 lbs 71 Camaro
1970 Z28 clone shortblock 11:1 compression
195cc Canfield heads 65cc chambers, un-ported.
Crane PowerMax HR cam #119841
4777 Holley 650 DP, Vic JR
1.75" Hedman #65104 headers
TCI 3500 stall 10" super Street fighter and a TCI manual VB, 350TH
4.10 spool axles C-clip Eliminators by Strange.
10.5 x 28 M/T slicks
6 point Jegs rooll bar kit
C/E bolt-in Subframe connectors
Homemade slapper bars, stock springs and old shocks.

Goes Mid to low 11's @ 116-119 depending on track prep, temps and air density.
All on 93 octane pump premium.

100 shot would be in the 10's
A bigger cam would be in the 10's
e85 would hit 10's

The AFR's CNC'd or unported are far better than what you have.
A roller cam of the same duration is a lot better than what you have.
 
#30 ·
Run Brodix track 1s with a 221 intake port, 2.08 valve, .040 over factory 350 block, compression is around 12.8, 6 inch rod, 260-274 solid roller 110 cl, made 405 at the rear wheels with a 8 inch converter, turbo 400 and a 32 inch tire. strip dominator intake with a box stock 800 holley.

Car weighs 3180 with me in it and runs 7.0s in the eighth at 98 on motor, 6.20s @ 110 on a 125 shot and 5.80s @ 118 on a 250 shot.

I would bet the car would pull harder on motor with the AFR210s though.