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any idea when the 2019 Rules package will be released?

Want to schedule with the chassis shop soon and was hoping to see if any changes are in store for 2019.

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any idea when the 2019 Rules package will be released?

Want to schedule with the chassis shop soon and was hoping to see if any changes are in store for 2019.

thanks

Joe n Blake
I am hoping to have them from Jim and Dave prior to PRI. Will keep you posted.
 

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I am hoping to have them from Jim and Dave prior to PRI. Will keep you posted.
Jerry, since you seem to have Jim and Dave’s ear, can you get some insight to the Ultra Street rules package for 2019 as well? I’ve sent messages to both Dave and John Sears with no reply.

Thanks and sorry to muddle up your thread.

See you guys in 2019!
 

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Jerry, since you seem to have Jim and Dave’s ear, can you get some insight to the Ultra Street rules package for 2019 as well? I’ve sent messages to both Dave and John Sears with no reply.

Thanks and sorry to muddle up your thread.

See you guys in 2019!
sears has posted on social media they, along with X rules will be announced at PRI.
 

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sears has posted on social media they, along with X rules will be announced at PRI.
3 points...

1) that doesn’t relieve them from the courtesy of replying to a message.

2) social media? You mean Facebook? I’m not on Facebook.

3) if they want people to race in their events, they should make it easy to find information about it. Have you seen X275.net lately? It’s a joke. Cecil’s website isn’t much better.
 

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3 points...

1) that doesn’t relieve them from the courtesy of replying to a message.

2) social media? You mean Facebook? I’m not on Facebook.

3) if they want people to race in their events, they should make it easy to find information about it. Have you seen X275.net lately? It’s a joke. Cecil’s website isn’t much better.
Sorry bud, im not Jim/Dave/Sears keeper. But if you want to keep up with drag racing... news....life I would suggest facebook
 

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Sorry bud, im not Jim/Dave/Sears keeper. But if you want to keep up with drag racing... news....life I would suggest facebook
Wasn’t asking for your help. I was just pointing out failures on the part of a race promoter...
 

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Wasn’t asking for your help. I was just pointing out failures on the part of a race promoter...
I agree with this 100% though I am on Facebook there are many who are not and rules should not be hard to find, how hard is it to take a picture post it to a host site and post on a few websites.
 

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I agree with this 100% though I am on Facebook there are many who are not and rules should not be hard to find, how hard is it to take a picture post it to a host site and post on a few websites.

I'm not facebook either. Ive searched in Cecils site but cant find anything. Makes it very difficult to plan.
 

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Facebook is the most popular website in the world and you guys aren't on it, but are upset that they rule maker doesn't go to a website that gets 1/100th of the hits to post the rules.



took me 2 minutes to find these.





ltimate/Ultra 275 Street Rules – 2019 Preliminary Rules
1/8th mile Eliminator
BODY:
Fiberglass/Carbon body panels are limited to hood, rear deck lid, fenders, doors, roof panels on 2005 and newer vehicles, and bumpers. Cowl hoods may not be taller than half way point of the windshield. Forward facing scoops are prohibited on power adder combos unless factory installed or less than 5 inches from flat area of hood. Inlets for superchargers must not be exposed to ram air and pass a "line of sight inspection" from the front of the vehicle, I.E. they must be blocked off from a direct source of air this includes closing off factory holes/grills. Turbochargers permitted to be forward facing and exposed to ram air. Factory firewall must be in factory location, notching and smoothing permitted but must be identifiable as being in the factory location. Factory floor must remain under driver and passenger seat area, fwd of the rear door jamb. All front ends must be of factory dimensions and cannot be lengthened and must meet all NHRA/IHRA height. (See ground clearance note below). Race car lettering limited to windows, side of cowl hoods, side of hood scoops, and side of rear wings, rear quarters, and front chin spoilers, to maintain street type appearance.
GROUND CLEARANCE:
Minimum 3 inches from front of car to 12 inches behind centerline of front axle, 2 inches for remainder of car, except oil pan, oil retention device, and headers.
INTERIOR:
Aftermarket steering columns are allowed. Factory type dash accepted. Must have carpet.
ELECTRICAL:
Optical devices and magneto ignitions are prohibited. All entries must have operational head lights and tail lights.
ENGINE:
Aftermarket stock bore space blocks and cylinder heads are allowed. All entries must utilize a single carburetor cast intake manifold (see induction section below). Motor plates and solid mounts are allowed. Engine must be in stock location. Mufflers are required on all vehicles (except turbocharged combos). All SB power adder engines are limited to 440 cubic inches. SB N/A up to 480 cubic inch permitted with added 7 lbs. per cubic inch over 470 and BB N/A limited to 632 and BOP/BB Mopar power adder limited to 540. Any engine in question will be measured with a P&G gauge. A correction factor of 1.5% will be used. Competitors may be asked to remove a cylinder head for bore and stroke measurements should any discrepancies arise.
INDUCTION:
Small blocks and power adder Mopar/BOP may use a "Commercially available/mass produced 4150 or 4500 series cast intake only. The Cast Holley LS EFI ram intake is permitted on boosted combos. Small Block N/A may use cast tunnel ram/sheetmetal/dual carbs w/weight penalty (See*below) Mod motor permitted aftermarket ram or billet intake. BB N/A permitted any single entry carb or efi intake.
POWER ADDERS:
Nitrous limited to SB and BOP/Mopar BB and BBC/BBF entries - Progressive nitrous controllers are allowed. Entries (except 8.2 deck see notes) must utilize a single stage nitrous plate with one nitrous, one fuel and one redundant purge solenoid. Cross bar plate on BB Mopar/BOP permitted #6 from bottle to solenoid. BBC/BBF entry permitted single stage, single entry plate with #6 single line from bottle to solenoid and a maximum of .125 orifice nos jet. 8.2 deck SBF combos permitted single stage fogger. Single 10 or 15lb bottle on with a maximum #6 line size from bottle to solenoid. Foggers must be disconnected and all solenoids must be capped off. Cold Nitrous prohibited. Push systems prohibited. Nitrous plates using fogger nozzles prohibited. Purge line must clearly exit the hood/cowl or body in a fashion to not allow purged nitrous to enter the engine when racing.
Turbocharged (mid frame turbo only see list below) and supercharged (must be unmodified from manufacturer) entries are limited to stock valve angle SB combos only. (SB CHEVY 23 DEGREE - SB FORD 20 DEGREE – 18 DEGREE MOPAR - FACTORY HEADED SMALL BLOCK FORD MOD MOTOR - LS CHEVY 15 DEGREE - GEN III Hemi SBM - TFS-R Head – Stock Casting Z06 LS 12 degree Casting for Corvette)
** NOTE: SB Ford 20 degree SR20 –FT1 or T1RI & SB Chevy RR or equivalent with boosted combo +50 lbs. Aftermarket LS 12/13 degree with boosted combo +50 lbs.
FUEL:
Pump gas, E85, M1, Q16, and C12/16/23/45 NO2 or equivalent racing fuel. M5 Prohibited
TRANSMISSION:
Any OEM style automatic or OEM manual transmission is allowed with power adder. Clutch assisted/clutch-less manual transmission allowed on N/A. Manual transmissions must utilize SFI approved bell housing. Aftermarket lock-up converters and transmission prohibited
REAR SUSPENSION:
Stock type rear suspension or ladder bar only. Coil over shocks are allowed. Anti-roll allowed. Aftermarket replacement control arms and S Box are allowed. Stock frame rails must be in factory location, notching permitted. Corvette permitted any type of transverse leaf spring rear suspension. Wheelie bars are prohibited on all cars. Late model GTO permitted torque arm or ladder bar w/ additional weight COPO/DRAG PAK/COBRA JET legal on 2005 and up models(see below)
FRONT SUSPENSION:
Factory type front suspension only. Coil over shocks are allowed. Aftermarket replacement control arms are allowed. Aftermarket K-Members/Commercially available sub-Frames allowed. (Must have prior approval from tech) Strut towers must be in factory location with factory sheet metal attaching factory frame rail to top of strut tower, can be notched, windowed, or trimmed for header clearance but must maintain factory sheet-metal attachment.
WHEELS/TIRES:
POWER ADDER LEGAL TIRES:
MT 3553 255/60-15 ET Street R or 26 x 8.5 -50lbs
MT 3453 275/60-15 ET Street S/S -100lbs
MT 3559 275/60-15 ET Street R
MT 3754X 275/60-15 +50 on 8.2 nos entry
N/A LEGAL TIRES:
MT 3559 275/60-15 ET Street R
MT 3754X 275/60-15 ET PRO275 +25 lbs.
MT 3453 275/60-15 ET Street S/S -150lbs
NITROUS WEIGHTS:
AMC – 3000
Inline non-stock valve angle head – 2975
Mopar BB conventional B1 head/BOP combo – 3100
BBC/BBF 588 cu in conventional head combo w/ .125 nos jet – 3175 lbs.
Any canted valve head – 3000
Any non-raised runner 23 degree combo – 2900
Any raised runner 23 degree combo - 2950
Blue Thunder Cylinder Heads 4.3 /SC1 – 3025 and 3.6 - 3000
C3/C302B/C302/Yates style -2950
Any 20 degree ford – 2950
Any 20 degree high port SR20 –FT1 or T1RI or equivalent - 2975
TFS-R Ford - 2900
SUPERCHARGER WEIGHTS:
F1A - 91 series - 3000
F1A-94 series 3250
F1C- 91 series – 3050
YSI – 3000 (deduct 50 for cast wheel) (+50 for V30-94 series)
4.0L - NHRA SS COPO - 3200 (must have run NHRA SS to be legal)
Eaton 2.65L - 3100
TURBO WEIGHTS:
T-76 – 3050
N/A WEIGHTS:
N/A Inline head up to 440 – 2500
N/A Non-Inline head – 2600
N/A Buick/Olds/Pontiac/Mopar – 2750 (any single carb/TB intake permitted)
N/A (big block with 9.8 standard deck height and conventional head) 2825 lbs. (add 2.5 lbs. per cu in over 589).
N/A (big block Ford with standard deck height and conventional head) 2825 lbs. over 589 add 75 lbs. chg.
N/A (big block with tall deck height and conventional head) 2875 lbs. over 589 add 75 lbs.
N/A (big block with 9.8 standard height and big chief head) 2900 lbs. (add 2.5 lbs. per cu in over 589)
N/A (big block with tall deck height and big chief head) 2925 lbs. over 589 add 100 lbs. chg.
N/A (big block Ford with standard deck height and non-conventional head) 2925 lbs. over 589 add 75 lbs.
N/A (big block GM with Symmetrical port/non-conventional head) 2950 lbs. over 589 add 75 lbs. chg.
N/A (big block Ford with Pro Stock/Symmetrical type cylinder heads) 3000 lbs. over 589 add 75 lbs. chg.
GENERAL:
- No Billet cylinder heads/blocks
- No Billet wheels on any turbo combo
- No Reducers on turbo or supercharged combo
- Alcohol/E85 legal (meth injection legal on non-intercooled combo only)(intercooler not permitted with m1)
- All turbochargers (mid frame GT47 or S400 chassis only) must be as manufactured from factory with cast wheel(GT47-76/S400)
- Cast compressor inducer cannot exceed 76.6mm and the compressor exducer cannot exceed 116 mm
- 76.5 mm compressor wheels must be "as-cast"
- Turbine wheel must not exceed 96.2 mm x 88.3 mm
- All turbochargers and blowers will have the compressor cover removed for tech inspection
- Turbos not exposed to ram air may deduct 50 lbs. (tech directors discretion)
- No muffler required on turbo entry, required on all other combos
- No bull horns - front exit exhaust permitted but must not effect timing equipment
- Gear driven supercharger allowed
- Belt driven supercharger deduct 50 lbs. Serpentine belt driven -100
- Boosted GEN III Hemi SBM add 50 lbs.
- Non Intercooled boosted combos deduct 50 lbs. on gas (add 50 lbs. boosted combo on M1)
- Late model GTO permitted ladder bar or torque arm add 50 lbs.
- Cast Tunnel Ram/Sheet-metal/Dual Carbs on SB N/A add 50 lbs. - Single 4150 carb used with 4150 intake manifold and 4150 plate system deduct 50lbs deduct. No deduct for use with EFI (SB N/A or SB NOS only)
- N/A may deduct 150 lbs. P/A deduct 100 lbs. if using M/T S/S 3453 tire
- N/A BBC and BBF and BOP deduct 25 lbs. for NO forward facing scoop
- V6 - I4 - I6 entries deduct 200 lbs. deduct 100 lbs. if using NOS with Turbo on I4 and I6
- 8.2 deck nitrous combo deduct 150 lbs. permitted with fogger.
- SB Single entry 1 nos/1 fuel or single nos (dry system) plate deduct 50 lbs.
- SB 4 NOS Jet dry plates add 50 lbs.
- SB 2 NOS Jet dry plate not eligible for single entry plate deduction
- COPO permitted aluminum block
- IRS deduct 50 lbs. leaf spring -25 lbs.
- any SMALL BLOCK COMBO 441 to 465 ci add 2 lbs. per cubic inch over 440. Blown/BOOSTED combos NOT permitted over 440 ci
-BB NOS limited to 588 cu in
- BB conventional cylinder head list see X275 for approved heads. (NOS BBC +50 for SR20 head)
- SB NOS and BOP NOS NMCA Extreme Street Racers are a +50lbs. for their combos to run in Ultra/Ultimate. Must run in the NMCA points series for this to apply.
NHRA SS/GT Cobalt permitted with factory rear frame rails.
Accepted Products:
Accepted products deadline for Ultra Street/X275 Motorsports; Requests from manufacturers to have new products considered for addition to the 2019 season should be submitted before December 23, 2018. After this date, Ultra Street/X275 Motorsports will not consider manufacturer requests for new products for the 2019 season. Tech director reserves the right to adjust rules at any time for parity.
Additional turbo information:
- Maximum Inlet diameter for compressor housing shall not exceed 78.6 mm (+ 2 mm for housing wheel clearance)
- Blade tip and inlet will be measured where tip meets compressor housing (leading edge)
- Maximum blade tip measurement will extend a minimum of .250 of depth in to compressor housing before expanding to final exducer measurement
- Exducer blade tips will not extend past the 116 mm exducer backing plate measurement.
 

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Does that mean that they are subject to change depending on feedback from the current teams before they get released to the “public”?
 

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here you go:


Outlaw 10.5 – 1/8th mile racing, 16 car qualified field provided there is 14+ cars, Pro Ladder
1. 400 Pro Tree, Heads up Racing
2. Engine: Single Power Adders ONLY
A. Naturally Aspirated- NO SIZE LIMIT & NO MINIMUM WEIGHT
B. Nitrous
- Small Block stock bore spacing NO MIMIMUM WEIGHT
- Small Block non-stock bore spacing 2150lbs(deduct 100lbs for less than 550 CI)
- Big Block 4.84 & 4.90 bore spacing 2150lbs(deduct 100lbs for less than 550CI)
- Big Block 5.00 bore spacing 2250lbs, 5.200 bore space 2450lbs
- Big Block 5.30 bore spacing 2575lbs, Max Engine Size 1,000 CID
- Big Block 5.300 bore space less than 911CI deduct 50lbs
C. Turbo Charged & Super Charged
- Single Turbo Small Block 2500lbs, Big Block 2700lbs
- Twin Turbo 91mm-94mm Small Block 2650lbs, Big Blocks 3075lbs
- Twin Turbo 88mm & smaller small block 2550lbs, Big Blocks 3025lbs
- Centrifugal Superchargers Small Block 2500lbs, Big Block 2750lbs. F-3X-140 add 100lbs
- Twin Centrifugal Superchargers Small Block 2700lbs, Big Block 3100lbs
- Roots Supercharger Small Block 2500lbs, Big Block 2700lbs
- Screw Supercharger maximum engine size 540CI, maximum overdrive 122% “C” rotor 3100lbs, maximum overdrive 125% “D” rotor 2950lbs
- Turbo Charged Big Block less than 550ci utilizing a stock bore space block with conventional OEM valve angle +/- 3* (NON HEMI, NON SYMETRICAL PORT) heads deduct 200lbs
- 4 & 6 cylinder alcohol & intercooler permitted. 350ci and smaller no minimum weight, 351-499ci will be required to run at small block weights, 500-670ci will be required to run at big block weights
- Maximum engine size on all turbo charged entries is 670CI
- Any turbo charged or supercharged combination utilizing a big block with bore spacing larger than 5.00 & non-stock bore space small blocks add 100lbs to above weights
3. Any engine combination with cast heads deduct 50lbs & cast blocks deduct 50lbs.
4. ON ALL CARS, Non lockup torque convertors deduct 100lbs. For NON LOCKUP torque convertors the Manipulation of Transmission or torque convertor pressure or volume other than at the starting line is prohibited. Pressure manipulation control must be disarmed/disabled upon release of trans brake or any other device used to launch the vehicle.
5. Mufflers mandatory, inserts are not considered mufflers, turbo charged entries DO NOT NEED MUFFLERS. Zoomies permitted.
6. Factory front frame rails as described herein deduct 50lbs. Front frame to be original OEM & must be fully intact from the firewall to 4” forward of the front spindle. Minor notching of front frame allowed. Any notching of OEM front frame must be approved prior to being performed. Major notching of front frame as determined by race director add 25lbs. Factory front frame if used must be connected to k-member or lower suspension component by either welding or bolting and be a structural part of the front suspension as determined by the race director. Double round tube frame rails from firewall forward ADD 50lbs. If utilizing 1990 or older factory a-arms deduct 100 lbs.
7. All entries must have been a factory production type vehicle. Must be street appearing & working lights. One piece front ends permitted provided it retains stock appearance and OEM width dimensions at the wheel openings. Fiberglass/carbon fiber body parts are limited to hood, fenders, doors, deck lid, roof skin, quarter panels & bumpers unless car is composite from factory, ALL OTHER body parts must be made of original factory material. Any changes or alterations in body lines including front ends, MUST BE APPROVED prior to modification. UNAPPROVED body modifications that may have a performance advantage at race director’s sole discretion will be subject to a 25lb weight penalty per infraction. All bodies must retain OEM width dimensions at wheel openings. Front door jams must be in stock location. Front to rear door opening must be factory dimension. FULL AFTERMARKET COMPOSITE, Pro Mod and Pro Stock bodies are NOT PERMITTED.
8. Alcohol permitted on non-intercooled cars only, alcohol and intercooler permitted on 4 & 6 cylinder cars. Forced Induction cars utilizing racing gas deduct 200lbs. Nitro-methane prohibited.
9. NHRA Pro ladder and safety tech.
10. Deep staging allowed, but starter will not wait for racer to get deep. Auto-start will be on at ALL times. Once both vehicles are pre-staged either side stage light will activate a 7 second auto-start. Once your competitor stages you will have 7 seconds to stage. If you fail to stage within that time the tree will automatically activate and you will be disqualified. Disqualifications will be based on a first or worse basis in accordance with the NHRA rule book. Controversial decisions not covered by the NHRA rule book will be determined by the race director.
11. Head & Neck restraint MANDATORY.
12. Lower engine containment device MANDATORY.
13. Maximum front overhang 45” measured from the centerline of the front spindles.
14. NHRA chassis certification mandatory.
15. 33x10.5w bias, 275 & 315 pro radial permitted (Bias tire deduct 150lbs)
16. Nostalgia Bodies with factory front end dimensions deduct 75lbs. Examples of nostalgia body are: Chevy II, Nova, Chevelle, General Motors G body style cars, 1st & 2nd Gen Camaro & Firebird, Barracuda, 1986 & Older Mustang etc. Please contact race director to see if a certain body is considered nostalgia.
17. Wheelbase must be within 2” of factory dimension. Maximum front end stagger of 2”. Wheelbase will be measured from centerline of front spindles to centerline of rear axle. Any vehicle that is over the 2" tolerance but less than 4" ADD 25lbs. Any vehicle that measures more than 4" from factory will not be allowed to compete.
18. Firewall must be within 2” of stock location. Engine must remain in front of firewall. Firewall cannot be modified for engine placement. Firewall will be measured from front spindles to any point from cowl to bottom of firewall and from outside of factory frame rail to outside of factory frame rail. Modifications (i.e. Sloping, slanting, etc) outside of the factory frame rails permitted. Any vehicle that is over the 2" tolerance but less than 4" ADD 25lbs. Any vehicle that measures more than 4" from factory will not be allowed to compete.
19. Air bottles on N/A, Supercharged and Turbo Charged vehicles are to be filled with CO2 only. The use of nitrous oxide in place of CO2 is PROHIBITED.
20. All fuels used are to be unmodified fuel as produced by the original manufacturer and must be commercially available. The use of fuel additives is PROHIBITED. All entries are subject to fuel check at any time.
21. The use of specially produced “one off” parts that are not commercially available and are deemed, by race director, to have a performance advantage is PROHIBITED.
22. RULES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE AT ANY TIME WITHOUT NOTICE IN ORDER TO KEEP PARITY IN THE CLASS
 

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Looking at those rules nothing jumps out at me as the combo to build. That is usually a good sign for parity.
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