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Old 06-14-2019, 12:47 PM   #1
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Anyone use the stupid EPA mandated self sealing refrigerant 12 oz cans like R134? Now I have to buy a new value to use them. I wonder how many shade tree mechanics are going to try their old valves made for the puncture type and screw up the can and end up releasing all the R134 in the air.
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I still have the old clamp over yellow that pokes a hole in the side of the can that I will return to service. Have been using the normal top puncture. EPA, adding more rubber and parts,,,cuz that's good for the environment. Stupid, on the take, or both they are.
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Just got a recharge yesterday. Mechanic was telling me about refrigerants. Said the 134a he used is about 3 bucks a pound.

Now because of the EPA new vehicle refrigerant is almost30 bucks a pound.
Said he just ordered some and it cost $880 for a canister.
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This is the old patent expires, change a few molecules, re patent and start fucking again. These are the type things our government should be protecting us from, instead of running the god damn soap opera they're involved with now.
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Before they're done you'll see low side pressure over 200PSI, and high side 500+
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Anyone use the stupid EPA mandated self sealing refrigerant 12 oz cans like R134? Now I have to buy a new value to use them. I wonder how many shade tree mechanics are going to try their old valves made for the puncture type and screw up the can and end up releasing all the R134 in the air.
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"EPA goes paramilitary, conducts armed raids with 'POLICE' jackets, checking for water quality"

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Talk to this guy.

https://www.naturalnews.com/042044_E...r_quality.html
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I bough some 30's of R134 last year for $120, I was told last year that the new R1234YF stuff is around $800 for 10#'s, this is the flammable stuff.
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R1234YF stuff is around $800 for 10#'s, this is the flammable stuff.

This is so stupid,If we have to resort to a flammable refrigerant, we might as well use the propane/butane mix for refrigerant, but we know its all a money grab and corruption anyways
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Just got a recharge yesterday. Mechanic was telling me about refrigerants. Said the 134a he used is about 3 bucks a pound.

Now because of the EPA new vehicle refrigerant is almost30 bucks a pound.
Said he just ordered some and it cost $880 for a canister.[IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_eyes.gif[/IMG][IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_eyes.gif[/IMG][IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_eyes.gif[/IMG]
Bullshit, I’m selling 134 for 13.00 a pound. R-22 34.45 a pound. I order pallets of Freon every 2 weeks.

I’ve heard some places are charging 98 bucks a pound for R22. Office lady had to have her hvac recharged, 98 a pound, held 10 lbs. Fuckin rip off.

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I bough some 30's of R134 last year for $120, I was told last year that the new R1234YF stuff is around $800 for 10#'s, this is the flammable stuff.

Several refrigerants are flammable, it’s not new.
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They have been using R1234YF since at least 2014

I remember my of my buddies using propane in R12 cars back in the 90's, he said it worked good
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Bought a 30 lb can of 134A last year locally for ?? under a hundred I think. It has an oddball fitting, I think they call it "1/2" Acme". Adapters available to 1/4" flare
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I still use R12
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Bullshit, Iím selling 134 for 13.00 a pound. R-22 34.45 a pound. I order pallets of Freon every 2 weeks.

Iíve heard some places are charging 98 bucks a pound for R22. Office lady had to have her hvac recharged, 98 a pound, held 10 lbs. Fuckin rip off.
So why did you charge her $98.00 a pound?

I'm assume she works for you, why didn't you do it?
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