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Old 11-16-2016, 10:17 AM   #16
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Do u think a 4 link has an advantage over a top of the line x275 rear suspension set up?
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This discussion is as bad as "What defines a street car?". People are always going to try and make the rules fit their car perfectly to where they are the fastest. The promoter makes the class rules and you will either put your car in a class that fits or you wont race lol. In turn promoters will modify the class rules over time to try and get the highest car count possible. I personally think it should be limited to tire size only. Either you're fast enough or you're not. This isn't suppose to be like class racing....
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Do u think a 4 link has an advantage over a top of the line x275 rear suspension set up?
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:12 PM   #19
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Well a true backhalf should be able to run with the "stock suspension" cars. The full tube stuff should be limited to big tire.
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stock firewall and floor back to "B" pillar or rear of cab for trucks

2x3 square tube back half or OEM frame (no chassis cars)

steel rear quarters and roof for cars and steel roof and bed sides for trucks (other then OEM glass or aluminum vehicles)

All the BS pro-mod top sportsman cars need to be put into another class--then they can decide if they want small or big tires themselves.
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Old 11-17-2016, 12:34 AM   #20
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Do u think a 4 link has an advantage over a top of the line x275 rear suspension set up?
Actually, in my personal opinion, I would rather have my leaf spring setup on a no prep track than a 4 link.
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Old 11-17-2016, 07:16 AM   #21
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agree^^^^^

recommendation:

stock firewall and floor back to "B" pillar or rear of cab for trucks

2x3 square tube back half or OEM frame (no chassis cars)

steel rear quarters and roof for cars and steel roof and bed sides for trucks (other then OEM glass or aluminum vehicles)

All the BS pro-mod top sportsman cars need to be put into another class--then they can decide if they want small or big tires themselves.
Thee 2x3 back half is maybe 75 lbs tops and no advantage suspension wise so i would't care if it was round tube. If someone is building a round tube is like a moly cage. It sells faster and holds a b it more value.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:27 PM   #22
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Stock front suspension stock front frame rails from motor plate back, stock firewall, stock floors to the back seat, no more than a 29.5 non W. Weight, rest of it run whatever, just have the needed safety shit for how fast your junk is.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:37 PM   #23
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Stock front suspension stock front frame rails from motor plate back, stock firewall, stock floors to the back seat, no more than a 29.5 non W. Weight, rest of it run whatever, just have the needed safety shit for how fast your junk is.
That is pretty much what I think but the bolt in racecraft stuff for earl nova and Camara should go to.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:44 PM   #24
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Guys is there any place or site that has Grudge/NT shootout events posted for the year. Would like to do some of the no rules shootout style races this coming year
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Stock front suspension stock front frame rails from motor plate back, stock firewall, stock floors to the back seat, no more than a 29.5 non W. Weight, rest of it run whatever, just have the needed safety shit for how fast your junk is.
That is pretty much what I think but the bolt in racecraft stuff for earl nova and Camara should go to.
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Guys is there any place or site that has Grudge/NT shootout events posted for the year. Would like to do some of the no rules shootout style races this coming year
None that I know of and I haven't heard of any rule changes. Pretty much a true 29.5 no wide others are max ture is a true 28.0 . Any suspension from the factory and a backhalf are legal for the small tire. Tube Frame is big tire only. Some of the back half are really 3/4 chassis.
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That is pretty much what I think but the bolt in racecraft stuff for earl nova and Camara should go to.
Yes I agree, but with a 50 lb weight penalty so no one is at any advantage of running that stuff.
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Its tough really there are so many variables involved.. I get asked to the tail gate class.. well great but I have a huge curb weight compared to most . I do not dis connect swap bar etc.. I go but its a blow out as I am 1000 lbs heavier .. Hard to make that up in 660 feet.. Then you add the guy that is close to the weight but coil over .. Even true street gets outside of a fair race.. I know gut the truck set it up for racing but I really drive it 8000 + plus a year pump gas .. I want to be comfortable while driving as well .. Good luck on this one . It comes to opinions more so than anything ..
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Guys is there any place or site that has Grudge/NT shootout events posted for the year. Would like to do some of the no rules shootout style races this coming year
Yes, the N\T Racing group on FB. I'm trying to find the list someone posted, but you can keep up with all things grudge racing on there.

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Guys is there any place or site that has Grudge/NT shootout events posted for the year. Would like to do some of the no rules shootout style races this coming year

Quaker city dragway in Salem Ohio is going to have several 1/8 mile No Prep/No ET events in 17...

Schedule is not known yet as I was just notified about it this past Friday by my cousin (one of 3 organizers) for the event.

Had a trial run this past season with a decent car turnout....spectators where off the chart , the most I have ever seen there.
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