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Old 09-26-2017, 06:01 PM   #46
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Thanks Dave and George for your contribution...
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Old 09-26-2017, 06:13 PM   #47
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just curious but from what I always understood Pat Foster was one helluva craftsman and his attention to detail was second to none..

so whats the issue with the one he built?
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Old 09-26-2017, 11:08 PM   #48
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He would have new pistons made every week at M/T of his own design, he had his 4 holes and he gave Mickey the other 4 holes to design whatever he liked, they would check them every week and take what worked and trash what did not.
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I like to think I do reasonably well for myself, but I can't afford to buy a set of pistons every week.
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there is nothing in an LS that will support more hp per CID than a Gen 1... absolutely zero.
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Old 09-27-2017, 09:24 AM   #49
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I like to think I do reasonably well for myself, but I can't afford to buy a set of pistons every week.
I would recommend that you watch all of the Bill Pitts series about the Surfers, they had NO money, they did not originally use M/T pistons, Mickey chased the boys around and finally got his pistons in their deal but it had conditions, I am sure they got the pistons for free and Mickey got a lot of development and R&D done at hardly no cost. Eventually Jobe and Skinner gave Mickey a bank to do what he wanted and the boys had the bank with the other 4, this really accelerated development time and eventually Mickey got a really stout piece that he could market to the other fuel teams! Smart of both of their parts!

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Old 09-27-2017, 10:37 AM   #50
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Someday I will watch the whole series - maybe this winter when the weather is too crappy to work on projects. The two I've watched so far have been very interesting, particularly Tom explaining about how the heads and intake distort when torqued, and how they had their intakes surfaced on their assembled engines in a huge blanchard grinder.
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Off to spill nitro on the floor and hit it with a hammer!! Be right back
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Old 09-27-2017, 11:04 AM   #52
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I found the Bob Higginson narrated video of the second Surfers recreation that is under construction, this is the one that Tom Jobe is behind and they are trying to use 100% period correct parts, they even had a knock-off scoop cast for the 4 port with Baily's name on it, should be amazing when done and Tom Jobe has already laced up a set of front wheels for it just like he did back in the day!


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Surfers #32!!!


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Old 09-29-2017, 09:49 PM   #54
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At the track, Pull plugs, check valve lash, change the oil, check trans fluid, look for leaks, and after getting home, pull the pan usually change all rod and main bearings as the nitro blow by embedded every spec of dirt into the bearings. Pull pistons and check Teflon buttons and change rings on pistons, look for cracks on heads. The 392 heads were famous for cracks between valves. If the cracks were hairline they ran them again. I have the original 392 heads from the flying Dutchman charger and there are a couple hairline cracks at the valves, good to go again. The heads have amazingly smaller valves then I would have imagined. Back then if it wasn't broke they didn't fix it. They really ran into part failure when they went dual mags and pumps.
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Glad I checked this again. Thanks, George, Dave, and everyone else!
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And the cranks? Grab them by the snout and smack them with a hammer. If it rang like a bell, run it. If it was a dull thud it was junk.
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Old 10-05-2017, 10:16 AM   #57
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Check out the post from outlaw56 that he did in Jan. 2017:

https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...hlight=surfers

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Old 10-14-2017, 06:13 PM   #58
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Thanks for the fun read!
I was fortunate enuf to have lived the dream, in the late 50's- 60's.
I was in the Midwest. Fuel racing was at it's best, at tracks like Cordova, the Grove, US30, Alton...With personalities such as The Greek, Sid Seeley, Connie K., the Schlitzers from Chitown.
Our car was the usual low buck, weekend deal.
The World Series was always the highlight of our season.
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"The Surfers" Should be a thread all its own. Maybe a sticky even. it started out slow but it is just chocked full of fascinating stories. This is what made drag racing a big deal to everybody. Anybody could jump in and do it. Hey LAD would there be an issue if a thread was started?
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:57 AM   #60
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Great idea Bam, Frank and LAD could easily make a Surfers thread/sticky happen!

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