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Old 10-19-2019, 04:59 PM   #31
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Yeah, that's not the right rag joint for the shaft in your picture and it won't work.

Looking at you shaft pic....are you sure that is a stock 1970 manual steering box?

Stock would be a Saginaw 525 box, 3/4"-30 spline with a flat that would match that coupler.
Reason I ask is the stock 1970 manual box, the 525, has about a 5" long input shaft....in your shaft pic it doesn't look like you box has a shaft more than about 1-1/2" long??
Well, it's a 142 casting as pictured in post 30, and I've measured and counted and the input shaft is 3/4-30. The pic I took was from inside the car to show it doesn't have a flat that matches the one in the rag joint. There is a groove though, as pictured above, and the shaft sticks out of the box 3 3/4"
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Old 10-19-2019, 05:22 PM   #32
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Here's what a manual steering box for a '70 Nova looks like:



The O.E.R. rag joint does work on this style box.
Box in my '70 is the same part number as the one pictured above, rag joint in the link is what I used.

https://www.yearone.com/Product/1962...0-%201970-1974
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It's hard to tell from the pic, do you remember if it was all splined or had a flat?
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Too long ago to remember bro
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That's alright, I know how that goes
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Old 10-22-2019, 02:18 PM   #38
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I've determined that the rag joint with the flat spot is for power steering boxes, and that manual boxes take a fully splined rag joint. Due to time constraints, I'm going to grind away the flat spot and use the rag joint I have for now. I'll fix it properly this winter.
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Old 10-23-2019, 08:27 AM   #39
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I've determined that the rag joint with the flat spot is for power steering boxes, and that manual boxes take a fully splined rag joint. Due to time constraints, I'm going to grind away the flat spot and use the rag joint I have for now. I'll fix it properly this winter.
If you've got a little patience, you can file the missing splines into the flat area with a triangular file....and not have to mess with it again at a later date.

It's been 20+ years since I switched my '72 Nova from Power to Manual box, using a manual box off a low-mileage 4-door '69 Chevelle and I just don't remember if there was a flat on the input shaft of the manual box or not. Seems like I left the '69 rag on the Chevelle box, just unbolted the column from the power box rag and swapped the entire assembly.
I do remember having to buy a different pitman arm, the power box arm wouldn't fit the manual box(different spline count/shaft size) and the Chevelle pitman is different and can't be used.
Nova '68-74/Camaro/Firebird '67-69 pitman has a ball/stud built in to fit a tapered hole in center link, like a tie rod....Chevelle pitman just has a tapered hole for a stud, and the center link has a stud instead of a tapered hole.
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Normally, I have lots of patience, but I have a relative over from the Netherlands and this Saturday is the last day the drag strip is open. Besides, I have no idea where this rag joint was made, but the little cardboard box it came in sure looked 3rd world. My plan is to turn down a double D shaft so it fits inside my steering shaft, jam it in, plug weld it, and then use an American made U-joint to connect to the steering box.
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Old 10-24-2019, 09:49 AM   #41
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My plan is to turn down a double D shaft so it fits inside my steering shaft, jam it in, plug weld it, and then use an American made U-joint to connect to the steering box.
A solution in search of a problem.
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