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Old 11-15-2019, 08:13 PM   #16
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I'm curious what took so long for a unit like this to be developed?
it’s been in development for quite a few years now and technology (supporting electronics) have finally got to a point to make it commercially viable
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I'm curious what took so long for a unit like this to be developed?
it’s been in development for quite a few years now and technology (supporting electronics) have finally got to a point to make it commercially viable
and also patent filings
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Old 11-15-2019, 08:18 PM   #18
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Saw these debuted at SEMA, does anyone have any more information on them?

Things like what systems its going to be able to?
All key ECU manufacturers have already been in contact for relevant specs to support them including Haltech, Fueltech, Holley, etc.
Emtron and Syvecs have already publicly announced native support and ability to control them. Turbosmart will also be releasing an “integrator” black box for backward compatibility next year
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Will it need a pressure line ran to it for to account for pressure or will it tie into the MAP sensor?

Will it have the ability to read back pressure and tie into the data log?

Price point?
no lines required as the ECU controls it. Valve position feedback is incorporated into the gate
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Old 11-15-2019, 08:23 PM   #20
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I'm curious what took so long for a unit like this to be developed?
because it’s not as simple as it may appear and many of the necessary electronic parts did not previously exist (including ECU’s that could control them)
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Old 11-15-2019, 08:25 PM   #21
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I'm curious how expensive they're going to end up being? I have to think they're going to be really expensive, which would keep the average turbo guy from switching over. Cool product if you're starting from scratch though.
Sure people seem to pay thousands for some boost controllers, that also require co2 bottles, multiple solenoids etc and still need mechanical gates on top of that.

So an electric gate/gates you simply control with your ecu, overall couldnt really be that much more expensive ?

Although it probably could lol

And reliability....
you hit the mail on the head! published MSRP is $1200 so they actually end up being quite a bargain considering everything you mentioned.
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My math isn’t adding up to the word bargain. If you can control these things with your ecu, you can control solenoids. Solenoids are cheap. A good boost controller and solenoids can yield data lines that are flat as a pancake. Granted gate position sensors aren’t free.
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It's about time something like this has hit the market... Is this "motor" an electromagnet?
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speed and reliability will be whether these ultimately fail or succeed.

They've already mentioned water cooled housings....so yes some aspects may be more convenient...but now we may need to route water to them. Highly inconvenient.

And I wonder how fast it can actually open or close the valve.

It's a cool product though
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speed and reliability will be whether these ultimately fail or succeed.

And I wonder how fast it can actually open or close the valve.

How fast is the e-WG range?

21mm per second - Full travel can be achieved in 600ms. Fast.


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speed and reliability will be whether these ultimately fail or succeed.

They've already mentioned water cooled housings....so yes some aspects may be more convenient...but now we may need to route water to them. Highly inconvenient.
Water cooling is only required for street, marine, or road course use.
Its NOT required for Drag Racing
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It's about time something like this has hit the market... Is this "motor" an electromagnet?
No, it is indeed a very specific custom made electric motor connected to a "gear box".
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Water cooling is only required for street, marine, or road course use.
Its NOT required for Drag Racing
Except many users may drag race and road use their car. Or 1/2 mile, or mile, etc etc.
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Except many users may drag race and road use their car. Or 1/2 mile, or mile, etc etc.
And those multi-use cars should indeed hook it up.
Chances are the turbos would possibly also be water-cooled and then its easy to loop the gates in.
The gates themselves are not the issue, but we want to be overly protective of the electronic circuit-boards inside the gear-box.
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