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Old 09-16-2019, 06:27 AM   #61
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Can you imagine hitting 300 mph to the eighth! Holy shit! I love going to Duck's races and watching guys in door slammers hit 200 mph in the eighth. 300 mph just seems insane. It doesn't seem like to long ago they were hitting 275 mph to the eighth.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:33 AM   #62
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Garlits had a good idea... One mag, single plug per cylinder, one moderate fuel pump then play with nitro %
No fuel no fire no power.
It would slow them down without costing an absolute fortune for the teams.
So basically give them Heritage series rules? They could just go race the Heritage series.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:45 AM   #63
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Link to the rules. Nostalgia Funny Car and Nostalgia Top Fuel would be the classes to read up on.

http://www.nhraracer.com/Files/Tech/...04-10-2019.pdf

FUEL SYSTEM
Single fuel pump mandatory. Fuel pump must be NHRA accepted. NHRA-accepted fuel
pumps: Enderle 1100, Hilborn -4, Settles Nostalgia Gerotor, Aeromotive 11937,
Waterman 320900N, and Rage Racing 1400N. All new fuel pumps must be submitted to
NHRA for acceptance. Fuel pumps must retain as-manufactured gear or rotor outside
diameter, depth, and tooth/lobe count. Fuel pumps with a second outlet must have one
of the outlets capped or routed back to the fuel tank or return system. Fuel pump
restricted to a total fuel delivery limited to 20.0 gpm at 4,000 rpm pump speed measured
through a 0.300-inch orifice. All competitors must submit their fuel pump(s) to the
NHRA-accepted testing facility (KJ Crawford Inc. Fuel Injection; phone, 707- 542-9551)
for certification prior to competition. All pumps must be sealed by KJ Crawford Inc. with
a lead seal. Pump must be driven at 1/2 crankshaft speed. NHRA reserves the right to
confiscate fuel pumps or uphold competitor protest request regarding fuel pumps at any
time during or after the event for further inspection. No electronic, pneumatic, or
hydraulic controls of fuel system. Fuel-system changes must be a function of the driver
by mechanical means only. One action by the driver can only result in one function, one
time, other than fuel pressure operated check valves (i.e., you may not incorporate a
system through a driver-activated switch or lever, or a wide-open throttle switch, that
starts a series of events). Fuel shutoff must be operable from the driver’s seat.
No pressurized fuel tanks. Fuel tanks must be mounted above the lower framerail. Fuel
tank and fuel lines must be within the confines of the frame and be protected from
coming in contact with the track surface. Fuel tank must have a positive locking screw-
on cap. Fuel line must be isolated from driver’s compartment. Fuel-gauge lines in the
driver’ compartment must be steel-braided with steel fittings. All flexible fuel-pressure
lines, with the exception of the hat nozzle lines, must be pressure-tested and labeled.
All testing must be hydrostatic for minimum 30 seconds at 750psi. Label must indicate
date, PSI, and tester ID. Labeling must be impervious to nitromethane and brake clean.
Maximum number of nozzles 24 (maximum 8 in injector hat, 16 in manifold). Y-nozzles
may be used in lieu of individual nozzles in the manifold; limited to 16 nozzle jets. No
down nozzles allowed. Maximum fuel injector air inlet opening: 65 square inches
measured at butterfly or throttle bodies, excluding cross shaft in fully open position. Fuel
injector hat/scoops must be NHRA accepted prior to competition. No composite
materials (i.e., carbon fiber/Kevlar, graphite, etc.) can be used in injector hat and/or
scoop. Internal modifications to scoop or hat allowed. See General Regulations 1:5 and 1:6

IGNITION
For vehicles with direct drive: Limited to a single magneto with one coil and one spark
box. Magneto limit: MSD 44 amp. No chips or computer-type ignition allowed. Timing
retard or advance changes must be a function of the driver by mechanical means only.
No electronic, pneumatic, or hydraulic timing change devices allowed. One action by the
driver can only result in one function, one time (i.e., you may not incorporate a system
through which a driver-activated switch or lever, or a wide-open throttle switch, starts a
series of events).
For vehicles with two-speed transmission:
Single Magneto System Permitted:
• One Point style magneto with one single coil
• One Electronic MSD 3.5 inch diameter body magneto generator
• One MSD points box & MSD coil
Electronic Magneto System Permitted: (System 1 Nostalgia Pro Mag 12LT)
(additional permitted components):
• MSD Part Numbers: 8142 Red Coil, 8145 Red Point Box or MSD Part Numbers: 81423
Black Coil, 81453 Black Point Box
No amperage upgrades can be done to both the point and electronic style magnetos.
(12 Amps maximum). MSD 4 inch diameter body generators prohibited. Rotation
changes cap size and magneto drive adapter can be changed to adapt to different
magneto drives and engine combinations.
Crank triggers, traction control devices and MSD Grids prohibited. Battery connection
between magneto generator and MSD points box prohibited.
Timing retard must be a function of the driver by mechanical or pneumatic means only.
A functional positive action, ignition ON/OFF switch located in the driver’s compartment
capable of de-energizing the entire system is mandatory. Driver must be able to easily
access and operate the ignition ON/OFF when seated in a normal driving position while
seat belts are secured. Momentary contact with prohibited. The ignition ON/OFF switch
is to be used to shut off the engine if the fuel shutoff does not function properly.

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Old 09-16-2019, 06:49 AM   #64
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So I ask.... Why the fuck would they run 2 of the exact same series basically? Or would you guys rather just end current nitro racing and have straight Nostalgia racing renamed to Mello Yello?

Hell, they may even still run the 1/4 mile in Nostalgia fuel classes. But I guess none of you watch that, huh?

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Old 09-16-2019, 07:03 AM   #65
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I doubt engines would explode, either. Dom Lagana ran a 4.485 @ 338mph in a full 1/4 mile exhibition pass in 2017 and his engine and tires didn't explode. It's not near as likely as you guys assume. I'd bet Dom regularly runs his car to the full 1/4 mile. At the time, that run was the fastest pass ever made in top fuel. I doubt a couple more mph is going to change everything.
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Old 09-16-2019, 09:33 AM   #66
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So basically give them Heritage series rules? They could just go race the Heritage series.
The Heritage and Nostalgia nitro categories are now suffering from a large decline in participants as costs have escalated and the original intent of the class has been plagiarized and morphed into a big money game. The Heritage rules or something similar may have to be the future of "big show" nitro racing, in order for nitro racing to continue within the confines of facilities and finances.
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