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Old 05-13-2019, 11:11 PM   #1
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Alright guys, so I’m working with a typical mustang, stock suspension deal, all team z or UPR front to back. In the south east specifically. I see a lot of stupid fast cars (5.00’s and faster) that still run basic 8.50 cages, and I see a lot of trucks that have ‘25.5 cages’ except the down bars don’t go from the main hoop (top) through the window/ top of cab, to the tear frame rails and they don’t/aren’t cert. where do you draw the line between “certified/safe drag car’ and ‘it’s a basic Georgia/flordia/Carolinas grudge car. Which is what I hear a lot. Iv even seen 8.50 cages that just have a funny car add on but no floor bracing. I see a few 4.70-4.90 cars still running 8.50 cages in mustangs. What is the line in the sand??? As far as Orlando, macon, peadmont, that don’t really tech cars per say. Is it HONESTLY worth it to go 25.5 cage on the street or just stay 8.50 cage???? Back story on the car is, not going after a ‘record’. But maybe going after ‘top 5 fastest 2v mod motors in the country’. HOWEVER THE CAR WILL BE DRIVEN ON THE STREET.....There is 2v mod motors in the 7.xx range. Is it worth is to do a 7.50 cage or go 8.50 for street comfort??? Again, this car will see about 4-5 backwoods grudge tracks EVER and some street racing and that’s it. No NHRA events. What’s your recommendations as far as cages? I’m gonna assume never going over 1200-1300rwhp EVER in the car on this engine. It’s a ‘street style grudge car’ if that’s what you wanna call it. Any input is HIGHLY appreciated as far as cages.
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:29 PM   #2
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as far as the trucks are concerned, from my knowledge is, no they wont pass an NHRA cert, but they will keep you from getting kicked off the track.

from you are talking about with the n/t south type cars, i think it's fair to say that tech is pretty lax you can make it as heavy as you want.

i'd stay 8.50 and cruise it.
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Old 05-14-2019, 03:51 PM   #3
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Who's driving the car and what do they want for safety? Building the car to pass tech inspection for a certain ET is only part of it. You'll need all the personal safety gear and then licensing to be completely legit. If you don't plan on doing everything, no need in building the car to pass tech.

I know plenty of guys that run pretty fast cars that would never pass tech for the times they run. They also aren't licensed and usually don't have the proper equipment. It's not at all something I recommend or promote. My attitude is safety is not where you want to skimp. I'm not concerned about comfort. I want to walk away from a 150 mph crash.
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Old 05-16-2019, 03:55 PM   #4
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Car will never be on an NHRA track. And I plan to only go high 4’s adventually. For a while I don’t see it going past 5.20’s or so. So it’s in that area where an 8.50 is probably common sense safe, but a 7.50 is rules and regulations safe. But again I wount be at NHRA stuff. As far as safety is concerned, fire system, HANS neck device, parachute, window nets, full fire suit, harnesses, etc. it’s just a cage situation because I wanna drive the car on the street, and with a 25.5 if I get t-boned on the street I don’t wanna rattle my skull against the funny car cage. But on the track I wanna be plenty safe.
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:02 PM   #5
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25.5 it if that’s how fast it will be and put some good padding inside the halo... and strap in tight even on the street.

150 plus and it barrel rolls on the street into a pole you might be really glad that 25.5 is there.

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25.5 it if that’s how fast it will be and put some good padding inside the halo... and strap in tight even on the street.

150 plus and it barrel rolls on the street into a pole you might be really glad that 25.5 is there.

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padding WILL NOT help you from busting your head hard enough to get killed inside the "halo" or F/C cage in a crash unless you have a helmet on. The proper padding is made to be pretty dam hard to take the impact under force. Soft padding will not "cushion " the blow, soft padding will/would be almost like having no padding at all.

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Old 06-09-2019, 09:14 AM   #7
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I didnt say soft or hard, just good- if I was going to drive my 25.3 car on the road it would have the Sufi thinned with another soft pad on top of it.... I would also have a 5 pt harness on so hitting my head would be a little more difficult.
Bottom line if you’re gonna drive around in a full race car you’re gonna have some risk you’re gonna have to deal with. I’d be more worried about the brakes, and about the front rims in a pothole... and the cars inability to make a quick maneuver on a strait road of someone ran out in front of it or someone cuts you off, those are way more likely to be a major issue.
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I didnt say soft or hard, just good- if I was going to drive my 25.3 car on the road it would have the Sufi thinned with another soft pad on top of it.... I would also have a 5 pt harness on so hitting my head would be a little more difficult.
Bottom line if you’re gonna drive around in a full race car you’re gonna have some risk you’re gonna have to deal with. I’d be more worried about the brakes, and about the front rims in a pothole... and the cars inability to make a quick maneuver on a strait road of someone ran out in front of it or someone cuts you off, those are way more likely to be a major issue.
Tell that to the YB member who was killed a few years ago after hitting his head on his cage ( crash with another car) with no helmet on the street. All the things you said you "I'd be more worried about " are true, but EVERYONE of those things you mentioned could end up with your head smacking off the roll cage
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a truck will cert 25.4 7.50 without bars through the cab.
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