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Old 07-18-2019, 07:48 PM   #1
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Senator Kirsten Gillibrand's amendment to the 9/11 VC bill is in the headlines today because Rand Paul blocked the Senate vote, citing the excessive cost. His reasoning is that 97% of the victims' families have already been compensated an average of $1.8 million each, and the new amendment would keep on paying them for the next 73 years, through 2092.

I have nothing but compassion for both the victims and families of those lost in the attacks. But I'll be honest - in my humble opinion, $1.8M apiece is more than fair. Can't put a price on a human life, but America's generosity - which is exactly what the bill is; no American OWES those families money - has made millionaires out of thousands of people. And Rand Paul is hollering "calfrope".

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SPEND THE MONEY ON WEAPONS/INTELLIGENCE...TO PREVENT THIS FROM EVER HAPPENING AGAIN...BECAUSE WHAT IF IT DOES?......DO WE KEEP PAYING?...CAPLESS?
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I'M WITH PAUL...
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I'M WITH PAUL...

I've often accused Paul of being a bleeding-heart peacenik but in this instance, he's right. But it'll pass, because it's political suicide to vote against it. "How could anyone possibly disrespect the families of the victims?" people will say. Well, America didn't. We made millionaires out of people who didn't know where their next house payment was coming from.

I'm glad we could help them. But enough is enough.
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There defiantly needs to be a cap. 1.8m to each family is sufficient in my opinion. America cannot afford to simply keep paying.
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It's all about fleecing the taxpayers.

If they can verify real people as the victims the money already paid was enough. Wonder where the money went that was paid to the many other non-entity supposed victims.
https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=735
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I have no issue with a cap on it. Now the issue i have is with the long term health problems some have had. They didn't ask for the issues,but they have been left with hospital bills and so on. I say unlimited money should be spent on that type of stuff.
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Didn't a majority of the money go to lawyers anyway?
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You decide who's right!
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Get fucking cancer and slowly rot away and die ( Luis Alvarez), lose your job for doing your job and lose your insurance and see which one of you change that tune. Cap my Ass, we lost a lot of 1st responders 11 from my former precinct to that Muslim fucking attack.At Minimum the families should get their full pension and benefits.
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Senator Kirsten Gillibrand's amendment to the 9/11 VC bill is in the headlines today because Rand Paul blocked the Senate vote, citing the excessive cost. His reasoning is that 97% of the victims' families have already been compensated an average of $1.8 million each, and the new amendment would keep on paying them for the next 73 years, through 2092.

I have nothing but compassion for both the victims and families of those lost in the attacks. But I'll be honest - in my humble opinion, $1.8M apiece is more than fair. Can't put a price on a human life, but America's generosity - which is exactly what the bill is; no American OWES those families money - has made millionaires out of thousands of people. And Rand Paul is hollering "calfrope".

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Rev, you do know what the word "average" means...right?
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I swore an oath to do otherwise, but at this point, I suspect I would meekly take the coward's way out and simply comply completely. Later on, I would probably assume the fetal position on the living room floor.

Take care. Tom Worthington
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It's all about fleecing the taxpayers.

If they can verify real people as the victims the money already paid was enough. Wonder where the money went that was paid to the many other non-entity supposed victims.
https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=735

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Take care. Tom Worthington
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In case some of you guys don't get it...it's not just about the people that died on 9/11.



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According to an analysis last September, 17 years after the terrorist attacks, close to 10,000 first responders had been diagnosed with cancer, and over 2,000 deaths had been attributed to illnesses caused by the attacks. By the end of last year, it was estimated that more people had died from toxic exposure from 9/11 than were killed in the actual attack.


As former NYC Health Commissioner Dr. Thomas Farley pointed out during the 2012 battle to make funds from the James Zadroga Act available for cancer treatment, “Cancers take 20 years to develop … and we might see something different 20 years down the line.” (Ultimately, nearly 60 types of cancer were added to the list of illnesses eligible for coverage.) Other doctors who have worked with 9/11 survivors have said that they expect to see an increase in cancer in the coming years.



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Never Forget...more people will die because of the lies of scumbags GW Bush and Giuliani...than ever died on 9/11.
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