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OEF14vette 07-11-2018 02:35 PM

88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
As the title says the car is a 1988 Ford Mustang LX notch my brother and I are building this year. We had an 82 GT hatch we were going to build but didn't feel like doing body work and paint along with building an engine, trans, rear end, cage and so on.. So we picked this roller up locally for a really good price. Intentions are to do a 370 inch twin turbo engine and either a TH400 or 4L80E we want to drag week the car. I will be updating this as often and detailed as possible. Goals are to make 1300-1450 RWHP on E85 and water meth. We picked 10 stick of Chromoly up for the cage and tubular front end I know we wont need all ten sticks but it was discounted for the quantity. We have full team Z Chromoly tubular k member and front suspension along with Strange Struts. If anyone has question ask away.

OEF14vette 07-11-2018 03:54 PM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
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OEF14vette 07-11-2018 04:46 PM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
We purchased a Rogue Fab Model M600HD bender, Notcher, Thin Wall Attachment, BendTech Pro Software and 2 Cage Gages (Bend Protractors for my dies CLR) so we can design and fabricate all of our own tube work on the car instead of buying pre bent and notched stuff. So far the bender is working great zero complaints and the manufacturing instructions Bendtech generates after you draw/design a part make its very user friendly once the bender is calibrated to the software. Here are a few progress pictures from last Friday we had a chance to put a little time in and get the upper radiator support bar bent just needs trimming and notching once we get the forward bars done and we also pulled the front clip off and cut the factor front end of just in front of the strut towers. Planning to have it all tacked up this weekend and then start mocking the engine trans up with the Team Z front suspension stuff. The last picture is kind of what we are planning to do with ours it is a picture I found and am using for reference.
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302StrokerGT 07-11-2018 09:39 PM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
if you look at my build thread you can make a whole front end and not have to worry about a upper radiator support and will be even easier to work on it if need be. 4l80e will be pricey to hold that power reliably but it can be done.

OEF14vette 07-11-2018 10:13 PM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
I looked through your thread quick and didn't see any pictures of the tubular front end with the bumper off by chance you have any? Just curious to how you did yours open to ideas. And yeah i go back and forth on the trans thing i build my own and usually get the parts from Jake's Performance in Sanger Texas i've had good luck with TH400 stuff from him for my Nitrous Corvette. I was thinking if we went 4L80E use a D3 trans brake and Billet triple disc converter but idk yet. Thanks for the info by the way, also what radiator and intercooler are you using?

302StrokerGT 07-11-2018 10:19 PM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
i use a 31x19 griffin with derale dual 12in fans ....

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1738/...c87ec161_z.jpg

302StrokerGT 07-11-2018 10:23 PM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
intercooler is some cx racing i got cheap..so far has worked for 14psi with no problems but i suspect issues down the line at which point ill upgrade to a better one

OEF14vette 07-11-2018 10:33 PM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
Ahh I see how you did it, I do like that a guy can pull the engine and trans straight out the front if needed. And I was thinking about trying a 9" core treadstone seems like bang for the buck their not bad and rated to 1300 hp efficient. My car will be on E85 and meth so should be okay I hope, at least right away I'm sure it will. I do have to say having the bender now makes me want to bend everything I can lol... I do plan on adding 25.5 bars that make sense to add right away and a pain later minus the funny car cage since it is a street car and that I can add anytime once the car is going fast enough to need it. Thanks for the picture.

302StrokerGT 07-11-2018 10:39 PM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
just gotta watch your iats....ill never have a need for more than a 8.50 cage but having access to the tools definitely helps

OEF14vette 07-11-2018 11:36 PM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
Scored these Kirkey Pro street seats from a guy that sold his unfinished 4 eyed notch to a friend for $100 we couldn't pass them up! The guy had them powder coated gloss black and they look pretty sharp mainly wanted them for the weight savings. They will get the Kirkey Grey Tweed seat covers so it matches the rest of the interior since its a street car.
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...pswvcku6dm.jpg

OEF14vette 07-13-2018 09:00 AM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
Last night we decided to weigh everything cut off so far, weigh the new parts and document it all for refference. The stock inner aprons and front frame with bumper as pictured weighs 62lbs, Stock cloth seats with tracks weigh 70 lbs for the pair, the Kirkeys are 28lbs 10oz. for the set. For the tubular front end i weighed the parts already bent and the un-bent parts i took their weight from the component weight my Bendtech software provides. It does this by weighing a 1" piece of tube and enter weight per inch and as you build it update the part weight. So it comes out to 30lbs 11oz with the plates, 4 pieces of 1/16" Tig filler rod to be conservative. So weight saved so far about 73lbs 5oz. I will continue adding weights for parts used vs parts removed. I am weighing everything on a calibrated 120lb capacity refrigerant scale used for A/C servicing.

302StrokerGT 07-13-2018 07:53 PM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
i never bothered to weigh anything since there is so much adding and subtracting through the proess

OEF14vette 07-13-2018 08:40 PM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
I just wanted to show what I am using to aid in measuring my cage and chassis parts. Now mind you i am not an expert in tube work thats why i picked two of these cage gages up to keep waste to a minimum we all know 4130 isn't cheap. I am impressed with the accuracy and quality of these tools and the fact you can connect them together with 1-1/4" PVC to make pieces with multiple bends before ever bending to ensure accuracy is a great feature in my opinion their extremely versatile. I stumbled across these and have never seen them advertised so i figured id throw my opinion of them so far up with a few pictures so you guys can see what their about if you too havent heard of or seen them. Their for 5",5.5",6",& 6.5" CLR as well. I am using 6" CLR so i just had to flip the blocks to the right position not hard at all.
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302StrokerGT 07-14-2018 01:50 PM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
thats an interesting setup...curious to see how good it works...yea oppsy bars gets expensive lol

OEF14vette 07-17-2018 08:28 PM

Re: 88 Mustang Notch Twin Turbo LS Build
 
Small update, I stripped and weighed the sound deadener that stuck to the floor pan along with the stock front seat belt retractors, buckles, and parking brake handle.... Came in at just over 28 lbs! I was guessing 16-20 tops well i was wrong. It all adds up eventually.


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