: My not so "eXtreme 275" 1970 AMC Hornet


KyleCim
10-06-2014, 09:19 PM
Slow Monday night so I figure I will post up a build my Pops and I have been working on for just over a year. We have been racing my "Import" (92 Plymouth Laser RS AWD) since 2005 and decided to dive a little deeper into a build we both wanted to do.

I ended up selling off some parts from the DSM and picked up this 70 AMC Hornet off craigslist last June for $2,000.i didn't tell my wife and let the car sit in the trailer until August when I went to Ohio for a race, that went over well! Initially the plan was just to V8 swap the car and run some local Index racing in the 11's. I will post updates from the start up to where we are at now then keep this updated.

Picking the car up from down Cape Cod @ a house built by Bob Vila'. You can see his old shop (no seriously look at the building!) the car Was a older father son resto but showed promise, only thing I could see the car as was a race car!

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Relatively Solid we felt-
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And the trusty AMC straight 6 saw its last few days alive-
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All of this brings us to August 2013.

KyleCim
10-06-2014, 09:35 PM
At this point, we bought the car not running (needed a starter and a tune up) but we knew the car would never drive with the straight 6. So I went on the Hunt for a motor, my father has a 401/tunnel rammed 68 AMX so we knew we could not pull AMC sacrilege and power it with anything but Kenosha power.

If you do not know, AMC motors are stupid and cost a shitload. Most of the guys who have them have like 10 of them and do not want to sell any of them. Luckily I came across an original non rebuilt mid 70's 401 core complete oil pan to intake.
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Boy it was crusty up top-
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Downstairs showed promise though-
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Also scooped up a pretty new set of Doug's headers that were kicking around the shop of the guy we bought the motor from, primary's might be a tad small for where we are going but we will see-
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Now that we had some form of a bullet (or at least an idea of one),we knew the next step was pulling the straight 6, so out she came
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This brought us up to Oct 2013, getting ready now to spend some $$ on parts and get the build going.

KyleCim
10-06-2014, 10:00 PM
Jumped in on 1 of Aerspace's many 20% off sales and dropped some weight up front and put some updated technology into the brakes.
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Then decided to strip down the interior of all the original stuff, remove the carpet and get it prepped for some chassis work. After removing the carpeting, found some crusty spots that were hidden by the undercoating.
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Driver side was much better, only surface-
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I had sourced a 9" housing with Strange 36 splines from a Falcon, had hoped it would be close to a direct bolt in so out came the stock AMC diff-
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And it fit with factory leaf location-
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Then ordered my Pro Nodular with 4.10/spool
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I had Prostars from another project and wanted to use them, fitted them with an old set of 28x10.5's I had so I could check my clearances, had to add a 1/2" spacer to get them off the leaf-
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Loosely fitted everything and had to roll it outside, tires rubbed the leafs without having a spacer but gave me some motivation!
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I decided that I was not happy with the fitment/spacing required to get them to work with the stock leaf location and felt they stuck out too far for the look I want. So at this point decided I wanted to relocate the leafs and at this time we would do the subframe connectors and fix the passenger side floor.

KyleCim
10-06-2014, 10:27 PM
Now into Feb/March and tore into the floor repair, leaf relocation and getting the rear suspension selected.

Found the previous owner filled the inside of the 1/4's with great stuff, no idea what the goal was for that but had to peel that shit out.
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Then went into sectioning the floor pans to get some solid metal back in there-
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Very surprised to find Hornet replacement floor pans on Ebay, glad that was available-
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Then cut back in and out the subframe connectors in through the floor, then moved on to relocate the leafs using A body mopar frame rail boxes
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Obviously you can see out rear suspension choice- Calvert Mono leafs, a set of caltracs and Afco sliders. Had to notch the frame box a tad to be able to use the upper caltracs hole if needed- factory location towards the body in this photo, moved the Leaf into the rails-
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Sliders went right on the rail, rear roll pan/after axle overhang on these cars is really short so did not leave much room, thinking of shortening the leafs up a tad with the center pin-
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Originally these cars used a staggered shock setup, Calvert recommended behind axle so we made some measurements and ordered up the QA1 DA's and made up a shock bar to change that-
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Finally rolls on its own-
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Now time to move into the interior, also engine progress coming soon. Sitting around March 2014 at this point.

KyleCim
10-06-2014, 10:52 PM
Found a great deal from a buddy and scooped up 2 Kirkeys and got them into the car so when it came time for cage work it would be set-
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Then tax season came and decided to splurge, IQ3, had our 727 gone through by Tony Apuzzo with a load of new parts from John Cope (billet drum, ultimate sprag, rollerized, A&A clean neutral VB etc) and decided on a precision performance products shifter.
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We decided to use Carlquist Competition Engines in CT to build the motor. Dropped it off in November and we were getting close to having it done in June when we decided to tear into getting the car wired while we awaited the motor. We are still finishing up some of the wiring but overall it is very close. My father spent some time researching and he made the call and decided to use Spaghetti Menders and added the nitrous controls for down the road. Once the wiring was in, we used Massachusetts tax free weekend to order our MSD Grid setup through our local Pep Boys speed shop for a good discount.
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This gets us pretty current, next update is a completed motor.

BruceO
10-06-2014, 11:00 PM
Looks great!! glad to something different than a Mustang, Nova or Camaro

KyleCim
10-06-2014, 11:23 PM
Thank You, I have a basic built fox body and I do love the cars, but they are just a dime a dozen now. We Figure this should open a few eyes since you nnever really see any AMC powered AMC's and if you did it's likely to be an AMX or Gremlin.

I will not be able to run with the big boys but if I can get it down into the 5's on the jug that should atleast get me qualified in our local tracks X275 program.

BBC Malibu
10-06-2014, 11:57 PM
Looks great! Would be proud to own that.

KyleCim
10-07-2014, 01:32 PM
Rewinding back to after we picked up the motor, we looked around to find someone who had some experiance building AMC's and came across Carlquist Competition Engines in CT. drove down and dropped off our "core" in November and waited to hear back on block.crank condition etc. Everything came back pretty good and we decided to move forward. Initially we really wanted to use Indy heads but Bill was very leary of doing any work with or on Indy products with their poor QC. After some deliberation it was decided to use the Edelbrock heads and spend some time on the bench with them to get us where we wanted to be.

Building these AMC's is not cheap and it limited some of out options and what power we could make within reason. We decided to shoot for a goal of 550hp N/A then experiment with Nitrous later on. Months went by and a few parts that were originally planned became unavailable.

Engine ended up as a 405" with just under 13.0:1 compression, Molnar rods, Weisco Pistons, Indy Intake, QF 850 carb and made 581hp peak @7,000 and 517tq @ 5300. Makes 490+tq by 4500. overall we were happy with the outcome and eager to get the car running. A few changes will be made and hopefully try to drop a few more lbs out of the car.

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Dyno Sheet-

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Head Flow-
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And overall Specs-

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Video on the Dyno-
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This is where we sit now for the most part. Finishing up some wiring, ordered a electric water pump and moving onto the fuel system next.

lamby76
10-07-2014, 01:59 PM
awesome build my brother had a hatchback in the mid 80's lots of fun with old hornet

KyleCim
10-09-2014, 07:04 AM
Wiring tested all good. Ignition, fuel pump, starter, racepak and lighting all test good. Saving a few pennies for the electric water pump, once that is wired in we are set to go besides figuring out directionals. Only factory wiring left is the wires running to headlights and tailights which is now wired into the spaghetti menders.

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5pointslow
10-09-2014, 01:06 PM
sweet build and local to boot !!

X-RACER
10-09-2014, 01:29 PM
Very cool build !

KyleCim
10-09-2014, 04:41 PM
sweet build and local to boot !!

I need to update, I live in Swansea Ma now so even closer!

Firetruck1
10-09-2014, 04:55 PM
When do you get to roll cage work? Really cool build so far.

KyleCim
10-09-2014, 04:59 PM
Cage is *hopefully* this winter or spring. I will only cert it to 8.50 but I may do a funny car halo in it. Have not decided on that yet but I do like being safe.

Fisher
10-09-2014, 10:55 PM
Very cool build. Great little car, be curious to see how fast it runs.

KyleCim
10-10-2014, 09:31 AM
I am eager to see what we can do as well. It will strongly depend on a few things and will be a large learning curve for us but once we get a handle on the car I think it could go pretty damn good for what it is.

Main goal is going to be getting the car as light as I can, obviously much of this depends on $$. I do not have the funds to try and run this car on a national level or be competitive but if I can get this thing down to the 2,550lbs that is allowed for NEDX275 rules (small block Nos on a 4150 carb) it should be good enough for us. With roughly a 200 setup in the kit and the car set up right it *should* be capable of 5.60-5.80's which would at-least qualify me in the #8 to 10 spot of this years NED X275 ladder.

Obviously this is all bullshit ass bench racing but it helps us to keep positive with a longer build like this. :rolleyes:

Streetracer09
10-15-2014, 04:50 PM
It was said earlier in the thread and I agree. I would be proud to own that too. AMC is cool. My old man was said to have raced a '70 AMX with a 390 and 4 speed in the late 70's/early 80's but I never saw it and barely know the guy.

5pointslow
10-16-2014, 07:40 AM
I am eager to see what we can do as well. It will strongly depend on a few things and will be a large learning curve for us but once we get a handle on the car I think it could go pretty damn good for what it is.

Main goal is going to be getting the car as light as I can, obviously much of this depends on $$. I do not have the funds to try and run this car on a national level or be competitive but if I can get this thing down to the 2,550lbs that is allowed for NEDX275 rules (small block Nos on a 4150 carb) it should be good enough for us. With roughly a 200 setup in the kit and the car set up right it *should* be capable of 5.60-5.80's which would at-least qualify me in the #8 to 10 spot of this years NED X275 ladder.

Obviously this is all bullshit ass bench racing but it helps us to keep positive with a longer build like this. :rolleyes:

not sure how far off you will be but , might be a good index car as well .....8.50 or so
capable of running more than class , nice to have the options

Blownv6
10-19-2014, 09:57 AM
Back in the other century I had one of the fastest AMC cars in the country. First car was a 69 AMX. When gas went from .25 to .50 cents a gallon I traded it in for a brand new 73 Gremlin-X, black with white stripes. Couple years down the road I ended up with the 390 out of my old AMX. A lot of work and a few dollars later we went 8.90 with very few mods to the engine but the car weighed around 2200#. That Hornet is an excellent choice and a very cool build!! Please keep us posted. OLD AMC guys will be watching. Thanks Mike

KyleCim
10-19-2014, 08:58 PM
Thanks guys, just excited to be doing something a bit different and not another fox body, Camaro or g body.

Dropped the mill in place, not so excited how low the pan sits though. If this carries the nose at all I'm going to murder oil pans.

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T-BIRDA160
10-19-2014, 09:42 PM
Nice build and I really like that you keep it amc power. Good luck with the build.

doglover44
10-19-2014, 10:25 PM
Love AMCs What class you wanna race ?

KyleCim
10-20-2014, 07:01 AM
My home track is New England Dragway so most of my racing will be there. Plan is to run their "Outlaw" index series and also as a spot filler in Ned's X275.

swrubleski
10-24-2014, 04:32 PM
Nice

NMRA P/S 5090
10-26-2014, 10:28 PM
awesome build! I dig it

Lead-Farmer
10-26-2014, 10:34 PM
I cannot believe a ls engine with a china turbo is not sitting in place of that 401. NICE! Good seeing something different.

KyleCim
10-27-2014, 09:15 PM
Haha, thanks. I will be 100% honest though if this AMC motor does not work out don't be surprised to see something else in it. Cost to build these motors is just retarted compared to everything else. I am a firm believer in keeping them with the right power plant but I'm not ready to refinance the house to keep it that way lol

THE STING
10-28-2014, 10:17 PM
Haha, thanks. I will be 100% honest though if this AMC motor does not work out don't be surprised to see something else in it. Cost to build these motors is just retarted compared to everything else. I am a firm believer in keeping them with the right power plant but I'm not ready to refinance the house to keep it that way lol

Sorry It may seem i'm being rude here but it needs to be said.

I built a 401 with stock crank/rods and self ported factory heads and bigger valves that gets street driven to the track and runs 10.6s @125 n/a on a mix of pump gas and race fuel in a 3300lb AMX...

Had another similar combo run a couple tenths slower on straight pump gas..

Also a 360 with the factory cast rods and crank / factory heads on pump gas run 11.2s. 3220lbs

All these combo's have been street driven to and from the track 25 to 60 miles one way depending on what track for years at a time with NO rebuild in between. hundreds of passes.

With the parts I put in these engines I think its safe to say they were low budget..


The parts you put into your engine were all unnecessary for the power your making.

Also with the parts you used I don't see it being some major difference in pricing compared to chevy/ford/chrysler stuff..

Sorry I call bullshit that the any of the big 3 could be built for much less and Id bet that ford or Chrysler might be even more with the same part you used.



Nice car and I do hope she runs good for ya.

KyleCim
10-30-2014, 02:07 PM
It's not rude, its the truth. I understand the motor we have is nothing special and I can take the criticism.

Admittedly, I am 28 years old so I am no veteran to the AMC world and besides my fathers 68 AMX this is only the second one I have ever worked on. Could I have done a motor for cheaper with parts that were different and obtained the same power and results? Yes, But like any other non mainstream car/models the 'OG" guys who have done the testing, blew shit up and failed, then tried other things that work are not quick provide info to "new" people since they have not done the time and learned things the hard way. I get that, and understand it and agree with it for the most part. The thing that bugs me a little is I read on some AMC Forums guys talking about how there is no real "young" blood in AMC's and how they are likely to die off as the "OG's" get older and eventually we will find AMC's even fewer and far in between at race tracks than they are. Considering the last AMC's were being built when I was born, that in itself is going to limit itself from bringing new blood/generations into the mix but the fact that most of the AMC Hot Rodding was done prior to the internet age leaves most valuble information locked iside the heads of 40-70+ year old people. I tried many outlets through the AMC Forums to have a motor built by someone who was in the know but all were either too busy/backed up to take more work or not interested. It needed to be done so I found someone within a few hours who had atleast some experiance with them.

I am no machinist or engine builder, don't pretend to be. So building a motor myself was not something I wanted to do or had the knowledge of doing. With that being said, obviously any engine shop will charge more and it is no gripe of mine considering how few and far inbetween a skilled machine shop is these days. I could have used stock 40 yr old rods (not something I wanted to do, especially since I want to mess with nitrous) and could have gotten the same out of ported Iron heads. I wanted aluminum for heat dissipation and more flexibility running cheaper/lower octane fuel if I decide to do any street driving. We were ready to spend a bit more for Indy SR's but the engine builder wanted no part of dealing with Indy or their product at all.

As far as Chevy builds, I don't feel like throwing numbers around but lets just say I could have bought an LSA crate motor from Summit for less than this motor cost us and that would only make 556 but have a ceiling of 800+ also. Stupidity? maybe/probably but that's the kind of $$ it costs to build these things when you rely on a business to build something for you and we are ok with that on this build. My only gripe with the product we ended up with is the fact that the engine builder quoted and told us he was using a Diamond Piston set on the original estimate and when the motor was done, without asking he used a Wiseco off the shelf. I was out of the country when the call came in that the motor was done and my father picked the motor up so that concern went by the wayside.

I am coming from messing with 122 cubic inch Mitsubishi motors, all of this is a learning curve for me so I do not expect the car to just perform. We decided to build this because I have not messed with carbs, nitrous or any reasonably powered RWD car and I want to learn. I know for a fact for under 10k I could put a 4cyl turbo in the car and run 8's but that's the same shit I've been doing the last 12 years. So in the end, my cost to build comment and the sentence following regarding not building another is just common sense telling me that if for some reason something catastrophically goes wrong in this motor it is financially stupid to build another unless I start building my own which I do not see happening. Besides Chevy motors, I agree that building a Ford/Mopar with similar parts will cost similar.

I appreciate the input. It is guys like you who HAVE put the effort and hard work in, learned certain things the hard way who can reap the rewards of reliable home built stock crank/rod motors in the mid 10's. I guess you could say we bought our way in with this motor, hopefully it works out because if not it is not for a lack of enthusiasm!

THE STING
10-30-2014, 06:21 PM
You have a good engine there and i'm sure it will run very good....I get cranky when AMC guys post certain things that I know better , so don't mine me..

Your engine builder is correct on some of Indy's QC.....But its not that bad for the hp you can get out of there stuff...pressure check and get your own hardware is the best way to go....the SR heads with a little port work along with a small custom roller and your at 700+hp n/a with your bottom end....overall funds would not be much more.


If you have any questions when you get your hot rod going you can pm me if you like..

KyleCim
10-30-2014, 06:50 PM
Thank you, I appreciate it. I still do see indy heads in the future of this car but worked by someone who knows exactly what the AMC dogleg head wants.

I wouldn't call it cranky, your just educated by real world experience and know better. I am always open ears to learn, feel free anytime to critique that's part of the reason I have these posts. I hear you boys have quite the collection of killers out there, hope to see them some day.

peterlocal22
10-30-2014, 07:15 PM
Hey bro, great looking build. NED is my local track as well.
Have you run the car yet?

Pete

KyleCim
10-30-2014, 07:40 PM
Hey bro, great looking build. NED is my local track as well.
Have you run the car yet?

Pete

We are hoping to start testing early next season. I will keep the thread updated as we go through the winter.

THE STING
10-30-2014, 09:21 PM
Thank you, I appreciate it. I still do see indy heads in the future of this car but worked by someone who knows exactly what the AMC dogleg head wants.

I wouldn't call it cranky, your just educated by real world experience and know better. I am always open ears to learn, feel free anytime to critique that's part of the reason I have these posts. I hear you boys have quite the collection of killers out there, hope to see them some day.


If you land up with the Indy heads down the road let me know , either I or one of my 3 core guys I trust can get them done for you.

sardeanie
11-15-2014, 11:36 AM
Wow, what a cool build. The Hornet is a great drag platform. I just wanted to throw my support behind you. Looks like it's going to be real nice.

KyleCim
12-20-2014, 05:36 PM
Earlier pictures were just a mock up, now have the engine and Trans in and set up. Waiting on a fuel cell then it is on to plumbing and a pump and we will have fire in the pipes.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/E2886DD3-D6BE-43BC-BF55-BB08FAA9F85F_zpsax7mjgbl.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/1645F69F-7098-4D5D-BE00-DF704D6F2D33_zpsh9yrzoxc.jpg

Hissing Cobra
12-20-2014, 06:03 PM
Awesome build! It's been years since I've seen one of those. NED is my home track as well so hopefully I'll see you up there. P.S., I think I've read about your Laser on New England Motorsports, if I'm not mistaken.

KyleCim
12-20-2014, 06:09 PM
Thank You, and I remember your car from back in the fun ford days when I raced my fox body. I haven't been on NEMS for a while but I have been racing my Laser for a while now.

THE STING
12-23-2014, 07:40 PM
Kyle where did you get the trans shield for the 727 from ?

1986iroc
12-23-2014, 07:52 PM
You can get in touch with Stickshifter on here. He a Gremlin that has been in the bottom 7's on and Indy block and heads. also makes some custom parts.

KyleCim
12-24-2014, 07:47 AM
Rob- I bought the trans used out of a spirit race car that was being parted out (big mistake in hindsight because I basically had the whole thing rebuilt with good stuff). I can get you the PN but it is trimmed so I am guessing it is simply a Mopar shield trimmed to fit.

1986iroc- Kevin is a good dude, those are his fabricated valve covers in the pic.

THE STING
12-25-2014, 12:55 PM
Rob- I bought the trans used out of a spirit race car that was being parted out (big mistake in hindsight because I basically had the whole thing rebuilt with good stuff). I can get you the PN but it is trimmed so I am guessing it is simply a Mopar shield trimmed to fit.

1986iroc- Kevin is a good dude, those are his fabricated valve covers in the pic.



I thought it looked trimmed but still will do the job , if you get a chance i'll take that part number...

Kevin did a nice job on them valve covers...good dude.

fofo
12-25-2014, 01:24 PM
Kyle, thanks for sharing. Very nice build, & unique for sure. Keep us posted. You have lots to be proud of, & I wish I had half your talent.

Merry Christmas!

radar0404
12-25-2014, 02:03 PM
sweet ride !!!!!!!! The Sting, AKA AMC BOYZ, def know their stuff when it comes to getting an AMC to run !!!Their heavy hornet flies .

KyleCim
01-02-2015, 12:34 PM
They sure do have some killer AMC's, hope ours will be a success.

Fuel pump and plumbing away from having a running car which will be cool. We need to figure something out for the front springs/suspension as well, it sits too high for my tastes and I was expecting it to drop more with the motor in. Once it runs, then we will line up the pinion angle and tack the perches in place and hopefully have someone finish weld them along with adding a brace to the 9". Add a drive shaft and hopefully drive the car in the trailer and deliver to have the cage done. Shifter bracket might be temporary for now, we needed to solid mount it to make sure it worked. Thinking some small round bar structure that does not take up as much space, the height is perfect. Also want to switch to the removable steering wheel like racecraft sells.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/EBAF5418-8D70-4F06-9873-E81FFD8DB834_zpswyd41lex.jpg

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gottuna
01-04-2015, 10:07 PM
been following your build, nice. I just picked up a 1970 Hornet older race care, needs some refinement.

KyleCim
01-05-2015, 12:01 PM
been following your build, nice. I just picked up a 1970 Hornet older race care, needs some refinement.

Post up a build thread with some pictures, love seeing people do things with AMC's!

E.R. Racing
01-05-2015, 09:02 PM
That thing is cool a hell!

SASYAMX
01-06-2015, 12:12 AM
Did you have any problems putting the indy intake on with the eddy heads , nice build.

HemiChallenger
01-06-2015, 01:34 AM
Great looking car. Love that its AMC powered too. Wish amc was still around. I almost purchased a rambler earlier this yr.

I understand your pain about building an engine thats different. Anything thats not cookie cutter BB/SB ford/chevy gets expensive. Even the mopar stuff starts getting up there. The cost of chevy w and buick engines will make mortals like us cry. I wanted to do a 4200 I-6 in my 59 chevy so badly. The cost to reward ratio is just not there. I had to bow down to the ls, at least im going with a 4.8 and a 5spd. to be a little different.

KyleCim
01-06-2015, 09:54 AM
Thanks guys. The Indy intake did need some machining to work with the eddy's but when we had the heads ported/motor built we provided all that to the engine builder and he made it work.

We wanted this thing AMC powered, took a ton to make it this way and I just pray it lasts. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I can justify building another one of these motors if something were to happen so fingers crossed!

amatx
01-06-2015, 10:33 AM
Great build. Thanks for posting it all up. Best of luck with the car

KyleCim
01-06-2015, 08:48 PM
Wrapped up the brake system for the most part, still undecided on our pedal ratio since we cannot drive the car yet to see how it reacts under braking. All new brake lines, the Aerospace front setup and strange 11" drums out back for now. We ended up with a 1 1/8th master which I think might be too big. Once the system was power bled we have a decent pedal but with the rear proportioning valve backed off we only see 700psi on the rear line.

Pedal ratio is sitting around 5:125 right now, going to see if I can manipulate the rod a bit and move it up a 1/2"-5/8" which should get us closer to 7:1. Will just need to see what kind of angle that will put the rod in.

AMXTRA
01-16-2015, 07:28 PM
Great looking build.
I was surprised on how heavy the Indy intakes are.

KyleCim
01-20-2015, 11:23 AM
Great looking build.
I was surprised on how heavy the Indy intakes are.

Thank You.

I was as well, its pretty beefy. I was worried for a minute on the coolant crossover pipe as it appeared cracked when I first looked but I believe it was just a casting line.

If all goes as planned, we are hoping to fire this thing up for the first time this Saturday. I was out of the country for the dyno session so I am eager to hear this thing. Still no fuel pump so we will run it off an external tank/pump setup and hopefully add some more motivation to get everything else done. I will grab some video, hopefully it doesn't sound too terrible on camera while open headers in the garage. :)

440roadrunner
01-20-2015, 11:40 AM
WOW I didn't know anybody was makin' heads and intakes for those engines, anymore.

Johnston Motorsports
01-20-2015, 11:54 AM
cool build....anything AMX is cool to me!

KyleCim
01-20-2015, 11:57 AM
WOW I didn't know anybody was makin' heads and intakes for those engines, anymore.

Most guys still run the stock heads down into the 9's anyway. These Eddy's are basically just a stock replacement but in Aluminum. Indy makes the SR which still uses the Dogleg exh port and then the larger 401-1 head which changes to the Mopar 440 exh ports and larger runner volume. The Indy stuff also allows for additional 3/8 Head studs which is nice and they even make an Aluminum AMC block. I just wish their QC was better or I wouldn't have questioned buying their heads.

THE STING
01-20-2015, 07:05 PM
Most guys still run the stock heads down into the 9's anyway. These Eddy's are basically just a stock replacement but in Aluminum. Indy makes the SR which still uses the Dogleg exh port and then the larger 401-1 head which changes to the Mopar 440 exh ports and larger runner volume. The Indy stuff also allows for additional 3/8 Head studs which is nice and they even make an Aluminum AMC block. I just wish their QC was better or I wouldn't have questioned buying their heads.


Its actually the exhaust flange layout....the port is not the same.

THE STING
01-20-2015, 07:35 PM
At least that's what some one that use to work there told me years ago.:confused::)

KyleCim
01-20-2015, 08:37 PM
I would believe your thoughts on it, I could only go off Indys online information said. It does say "440 exhaust pattern (center exhaust ports spread for better cooling)" .

THE STING
01-20-2015, 10:09 PM
Hey Kyle i'm now starting to gather parts for a 360 for a old timer that has a Gremlin...going to use the eddy heads also along with some K1 rods and wiseco pistons , it will be a pump gas deal...

Should be fun as i'll be going threw his whole drivetrain as well.

KyleCim
01-21-2015, 05:27 AM
I will be interested to see how that stuff works on the 360. Automatic car or 4 speed?

THE STING
01-21-2015, 06:04 PM
It will be a automatic 3 speed , i'd like to get him to go to a t400.

KyleCim
01-24-2015, 06:46 PM
So although we still don't have a fuel pump, after one of the writers for Dragzine hit me up this week and wrote this for the site- http://www.dragzine.com/news/how-about-a-405-inch-amc-hornet-for-something-different/ it gave us a little kick in the pants and desire to her this thing run.

We stole the Holley blue off my Dads AMX and set up a cell on a roll cart with 5 gallons of C12. Crude but it got the job done. Needless to say, today was a good day and this thing sounds KILLER!

http://youtu.be/pX6yMi2coUY

http://youtu.be/KgSc0QOx3F8

Ordering up the Prostar500 this week then I will spend a few days in the Bahamas and get back to grinding on this. Hopefully square away fuel, bracing the rear axle and a cage within the next 2-3 months.

Thanks,
Kyle

gottuna
01-24-2015, 09:46 PM
nice sounds great. i like the write up also.

KyleCim
01-26-2015, 05:45 AM
nice sounds great. i like the write up also.

Thank you! Hearing this thing fire up felt real good, felt even better knowing that all the wiring and everything else was right!

Any pictures of your Hornet?

THE STING
01-27-2015, 10:44 PM
Sounds great , keep up the good work.

gottuna
01-28-2015, 01:48 PM
nothing special

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll10/gottuna/20150109_113742.jpeg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/gottuna/media/20150109_113742.jpeg.html)

gottuna
01-28-2015, 01:52 PM
put new tires, and did the carb conversion for e-85. installed my nos plate system. new Mickey Thompson tires. love it, and having fun owning a street car again. next i want to change shifters...did a little custom paint, this i also did on my 1973 Ambassador in high school.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll10/gottuna/20150109_113731.jpeg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/gottuna/media/20150109_113731.jpeg.html)

Erik-427
01-28-2015, 07:30 PM
Why don't somebody make a spaced port head for the AMC?

HemiChallenger
01-28-2015, 08:51 PM
+1 thanks for the pics. Cool AMC.

T.Fiddler
01-29-2015, 01:10 AM
Looking VERY good.
I am sure you were excited to hear it run.
Congrats

KyleCim
01-29-2015, 05:56 AM
Thanks guys, did feel great hearing this thing fire up after over a year of waiting. Also is nice the the list of requirements keeps getting smaller and smaller to having an operational car!

I am hopeful that we can get the car out for testing by July and hopefully make a few full hits by the end of the season. Driving will be a learning curve for me as I am used to a low 10 second stick shift AWD car which goes pretty straight after the 60'. All in all, up to this point I have learned a ton and were only at the halfway point. All of the other things like suspension tuning, carb tuning, nitrous etc are all new as well and I am very excited to slowly expand into these things. Part of building this car was about doing another car with my Father, the other part was learning the parts of Drag Racing I never had to deal with in a AWD turbo efi import.

Al Saggese
02-01-2015, 12:08 PM
I love this build I like the odd stuff.

02-04-2015, 11:19 AM
Unique build..I dig it!

AMXTRA
02-04-2015, 08:04 PM
Sounds great...glad you got it fired up.

tsanchez
02-04-2015, 08:28 PM
Cool!

bobo81bu
02-10-2015, 08:42 PM
Way to go!

KyleCim
02-11-2015, 08:36 PM
Thanks guys!

A few crappy photos, but fueling is close to complete. Waiting on 1 more filter, otherwise the system is -12 out of the cell to the Prostar 500 filter/pump, then -10 through 2 bulkheads up to the regulator and obviously 2x-6 to the carb. Adding 1 filter post pump just in case and I'm hoping to add some mounts off the cage to hold the cell once that gets done.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/9721255D-C0B4-4D36-852A-F237FE3188A4_zpsi2ua5tdn.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/371647F3-F838-4D90-93AC-4B1F0CE64968_zpslfgoenwx.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/E1FF1D3E-3CB1-4934-9ACF-DB1E40763A8B_zpskb4oygbr.jpg

Thanks,
Kyle

SASYAMX
02-11-2015, 10:16 PM
nice

KyleCim
02-28-2015, 06:48 AM
Rather small update, trimmed up a few of the AN lines that I felt were a tad long on the water pump setup and fuel lines and added a secondary filter. Car is now running on the Prostar 500 and we are awaiting the green light to put it into the chassis shop.

Also we were hooked up BIGTIME by Al at Control Freak suspensions and we have tubular front control arms and Viking DA coilovers on the way to drop a few more lbs and help front suspension tuning when the time comes. Will update as that stuff gets installed.

gottuna
02-28-2015, 12:10 PM
whos valve covers are those?

KyleCim
02-28-2015, 05:09 PM
whos valve covers are those?

Kevin Fontenot (Stickshifter) made them, VERY nice pieces with thick flanges.

84BATA
02-28-2015, 06:57 PM
I like it!! Good work, nice car. Something different FTW

Blown7
02-28-2015, 08:49 PM
Post up a build thread with some pictures, love seeing people do things with AMC's!

Some of us even use the 401 AMC as a daily driver. Mines in my Jeep, if you need a hand I'm close by in CT. This engine started everyday all this cold winter even on the -20 F degree days

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c96/Blown7/3-17-2010011.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/Blown7/media/3-17-2010011.jpg.html)

Keep up the good work.

KyleCim
02-28-2015, 09:06 PM
That thing is fucking KILLER!! Awesome!

Blown7
02-28-2015, 09:11 PM
Thanks, it is really nice to see another AMC kept alive. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

KyleCim
03-02-2015, 07:50 AM
We are trying to take every step in the right direction so I truly hope not. It will be nice to have the car at the track and people wonder what it is, asking questions and keeping the AMC name alive.

HemiChallenger
03-02-2015, 06:41 PM
We need some more pics of that jeep! Better yet its own thread!

KyleCim
03-21-2015, 09:50 PM
Finally some update-

After looking over my front suspension options the choices were pretty limited. I ended up speaking with Al at Control Freaks Suspension who was great and hooked us up with their tubular upper and lower control arms and Coilover front conversion setup. It uses Viking DA's and a Viking 10" coil (currently 450lb) with their in house AMC upper and lower control arms. The suspension style really limits just how far down the front end will come but it looks like we dropped it just under 2" which I am happy with. Hopefully the shorter than Ideal travel shocks will still let us get the chassis tuning squared away without having to customize the front end.

Waiting for he call from my buddy Victor @Texieira Fab to get the car over and have the cage done with a few other odds and ends. Also swapping in a Wilwood double master brake pedal setup, wasn't happy with what I could get with the stock pedal assy.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/524FDDBD-D123-429F-802E-F8FD8E413F3E_zpsq4vrci8k.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/FB8F8B91-9BED-41BC-8BC1-864256D259F7_zpse3ligytt.jpg

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http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/F2D18FEB-604A-4505-92FC-D28666CE6108_zpsqubdeuer.jpg

gottuna
03-21-2015, 11:01 PM
those are sweet, how much?

KyleCim
03-22-2015, 11:27 AM
The whole setup is not cheap, I think the website is around 1,900 or so. Quality/fit and finish is top notch, they also make a full independent front suspension system for AMC's now as well.

TooFast98Cobra
03-22-2015, 11:35 AM
Cool build . Thanks for the pics and updates .

JonnyB1973
03-22-2015, 01:48 PM
NICE! I didn't realize he was using Vi-Kings for his coil overs...I was planning on using those with their springs on mine too! I'm just going to make a lower mount to do away with the lower shock bushing/pivot on the stock arm. Are you going to keep the stock strut rod setup?

KyleCim
03-22-2015, 02:06 PM
I am thinking of welding 2 tabs onto each side of the frame and switching the inner portion of the strut rod to a heim. Main reason is going to be for header clearance, it should work well as long as 1 side of the street rod is still fixed position (bolted to lower control arm).

As for the Vi-Kings, he switched to them a little while ago, was using either qA1 or Afco single adjustables in the past.

KyleCim
04-04-2015, 05:09 PM
Sunshine in New England!

Rolled her out into the trailer today, heading in to get the cage/chassis work done at my buddy Victor's shop. I will keep it updated as it goes!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/09A1402D-0105-4D54-B643-9A9694492163_zpsccr6mpd6.jpg

Ronthepainter
04-23-2015, 11:51 AM
This is a very cool build. Awesome work. I love the 401.

69AMC
05-08-2015, 04:11 PM
This is cool as shit. I still have my 69 Javelin that I drove to high school. I built a Jeep CJ7 wit a 390 AMC, and I just purchased a 1965 American 330 wagon that I plan on building a street/strip machine out of.

06MXZX800
05-11-2015, 10:38 PM
Love the car and look forward to seeing it at NED

KyleCim
06-29-2015, 09:49 AM
A few months later and the bending/cutting and sparks have begun to fly. Good buddy of mine Victor Teixeira is doing the work, I was simply helping with measurements and pipe handling lol.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/5118FE12-6E89-48D1-A30C-A50FFE65EC55_zpsg1fypglc.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/311D8A02-6FC4-4430-A591-A96148811F1B_zpshxgkw1bn.jpg

Bending the rear hoop-
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/E419EE2C-C130-491B-A922-94010BDC3B25_zpsuc1gionj.jpg

Beginning to fit the rear hoop
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/BD054D49-0574-4ECA-9F68-4050DBED79EF_zpsfv7ldlbj.jpg

Hoping to get back by tonight with some updates.

kickedafordlately?Yes!
06-29-2015, 11:21 AM
A few months later and the bending/cutting and sparks have begun to fly. Good buddy of mine Victor Teixeira is doing the work, I was simply helping with measurements and pipe handling lol.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/5118FE12-6E89-48D1-A30C-A50FFE65EC55_zpsg1fypglc.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/311D8A02-6FC4-4430-A591-A96148811F1B_zpshxgkw1bn.jpg

Bending the rear hoop-
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/E419EE2C-C130-491B-A922-94010BDC3B25_zpsuc1gionj.jpg

Beginning to fit the rear hoop
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/BD054D49-0574-4ECA-9F68-4050DBED79EF_zpsfv7ldlbj.jpg

Hoping to get back by tonight with some updates.

Nice! :smt023

gottuna
06-29-2015, 05:09 PM
very cool....

KyleCim
07-04-2015, 12:31 PM
Celebrate America with AMC race cars! Happy 4th everyone

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gottuna
07-05-2015, 03:57 PM
wow you been busy, love the work.

THE STING
07-05-2015, 04:24 PM
Damn getting serious...great job.

KyleCim
07-06-2015, 11:54 AM
Thanks guys, over excessive 8.50 cage in all reality but I like safety.

KyleCim
07-11-2015, 04:28 PM
Getting closer to coming home. Steering column, chute, fuel cell mounts and some other small things with some finish welding.

It is finally close to full weight so once it is back I will set up pinion angle and measure for a driveshaft. While waiting for the driveshaft I will pull the rear end and fully weld the perches and have a brace installed at the same time.

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KyleCim
07-13-2015, 09:42 AM
What are peoples feelings on the D bars? Do we need to add a triangulated bar in place?

gottuna
07-13-2015, 02:43 PM
did you use a cage kit, if so whose... looking at doing mine when it cools down.

KyleCim
07-13-2015, 03:00 PM
No kit, only part that was purchased was the FC halo as a "trim to fit" kit but pretty much only used 1 pipe in its intended location. After more research, we are adding 2 more "D" bars off the main hoop to the subframe connector.

gottuna
07-13-2015, 03:15 PM
cool thanks

KyleCim
07-20-2015, 10:14 PM
Finally back home under my own roof which feels nice. Cage work is done besides adding the chute mount, might do a little drag wing so we held off on mounting the chute just yet. Steering column is done, need to clearance the dash and get that back in and start to re-wire the car all to the panel on the pass side door x brace.

Decided to keep my factory cluster and mount the racepak to the column and also wrapped up the battery tray and moved the fuel pump away from the electronics in the pass side rear. Now comes the fun part, painting all this shit then measure up pinion angle and get the rear end back out and braced/perches finish welded. Progress feels good that's for sure.

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Chuck75
07-24-2015, 08:47 PM
Very clean. I love it.

KyleCim
08-01-2015, 10:53 AM
Front portion of the cage in self etching primer, time to move to the rear. Had the windshield pulled yesterday to allow better coverage on the front bars.

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KyleCim
08-09-2015, 08:24 PM
Yet another 1 of the perks of building something different is having to buy whatever is available and make it work. After some research we found very few were making AMC fiberglass parts and talked to VFN last October about having a hood done which they were happy to do. Fast forward to this year and a phone call to order it and they informed us they are no longer doing custom work at this time and would only be able to sell me a Hood and cowl separate. It is what it is, ordered it up and it shows up as a gremlin hood which luckily is similar but has a bulge that had to be completely cut out (Hornet hoods are flat with just a body line up the middle).

After some trimming we have it close and I will be leaving the glass work to a local who is into offshore race boats aka someone with a bunch more fiberglass experience than I.

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peterlocal22
08-09-2015, 08:58 PM
great looking build!

KyleCim
08-24-2015, 05:57 AM
Body shop did some killer glass work molding this thing in. They didn't follow exactly what we had going with the cowl overhang but I am happy with the way it turned out as it looked a bit goofy before.

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Was thinking of leaving the hood flat black but I'm not sure I like it. White stripes will be black and we have a set of black Magnums to go on the front.

Geerbangr
08-24-2015, 06:33 AM
I like your build. It's nice to see people step outside the box. :supz:

NOS2stage
08-24-2015, 07:04 AM
very nice, i like different and this is different.

KyleCim
08-24-2015, 10:21 AM
Thanks Guys, need to get this thing moving under its own power. So close yet soo far.

KyleCim
10-05-2015, 05:56 AM
After dreading this for the past 2 months we finally got to painting the cage. No words describe this job better than fuck me, whatever shops charge to paint these things they deserve. I almost don't want to look at it unmasked and in the sun, had so many places it was near impossible to get paint but did what we could.

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Self etch then sealer primed-
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Cobalt Blue Metallic and cleared, all rustoleum spray bomb-
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gottuna
10-05-2015, 05:22 PM
looks good to me, much props!

THE STING
10-05-2015, 05:52 PM
Looking good , keep up the good work.

KyleCim
10-06-2015, 09:07 AM
Thanks guys, I stopped by the shop last night to see how it dried with the clear and it came out pretty good. The rear down bars I need to figure out how to get paint on them, I am going to try an airbrush as long as I can get the spray can paint into the air brush.

Rob- If you wouldn't mind shooting me your email or contact, I am quite sure I am going to end up with a ton of questions once I get to racing this thing especially in terms of the Nitrous. Id love some pointers if you wouldn't mind!

Thanks,
Kyle

THE STING
10-08-2015, 09:28 PM
Thanks guys, I stopped by the shop last night to see how it dried with the clear and it came out pretty good. The rear down bars I need to figure out how to get paint on them, I am going to try an airbrush as long as I can get the spray can paint into the air brush.

Rob- If you wouldn't mind shooting me your email or contact, I am quite sure I am going to end up with a ton of questions once I get to racing this thing especially in terms of the Nitrous. Id love some pointers if you wouldn't mind!

Thanks,
Kyle


I'll pm you my #....feel free to call , leave message if I don't pick up.

I do have email but terrible at looking at it....best bet is pm me here as I check in often..

KyleCim
10-09-2015, 11:26 AM
Recieved, thanks Rob!


Care package from Mr. Fontenot came in today, trying to lose weight (cost effectively) wherever possible! Thinking of color matching the bumpers to the car, will see how that looks. Byron @ XSPower hooked us up with a D1600 16V battery for this car as well which showed up early this week. Finish touching up paint on the cage and install the dash then re-wire the car since most had to be pulled out when doing the cage.

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KyleCim
11-01-2015, 12:48 PM
Decided to go 16V with the car, XSPower hooked us up and we re-arranged a few things got the wiring mounted to the panel and moved the fuel pump over to the other side away from the battery.

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THE STING
11-14-2015, 08:00 AM
Looking good...keep it up.

AX01
11-24-2015, 08:10 AM
Nice AMC build, I've been a AMC fan since these were new. Keep up with the updates, it will be great to see performance results, and how you iron the gremlins out after hitting the track.

KyleCim
11-27-2015, 07:05 PM
Thanks guys!

Finally wired back up, dash fitted in with the cage and able to run the motor again. Might have made a mistake mounting the fuel pump to the cage, holy crap is that fucker loud!!!



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KyleCim
12-10-2015, 08:02 AM
So December in Massachusetts means the tracks have been closed for over a month and money is flying around on parts needed, and some not so needed but wanted.

I have another project pickup truck I needed a rear end for and decided why not step up the Hornet to a fabricated 9" housing and slide the used stuff to the truck. Ordered up and recieved my new Moser M9 with 35 spline axles cut for my current strange center section/spool. Once getting it under the car came to realize quickly U bolts were lot going to work so moving to the Smith perches to get it in the car. Also picked up Aerospace rear brakes and finally was able to finalize my wheel order which you all will see soon!

Also began wiring in the new headlights, a little flair to the car that I think will look pretty badass at night. Maybe decide on a name for the car- "Sinatra" or "Ol Blue Eyes" :)

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5pointslow
12-10-2015, 08:36 AM
fingers crossed on weather though supposer to be 62 sat and sun lol

but then again we had good weather in DEC last year and we know how that went

KyleCim
12-10-2015, 09:16 AM
Exactly, the weather has still been good which is nice. I'm happy as long as there is no snow/salt on the ground. I wish NED would use a temperature scale and keep the track open until the first snowfall. Say if its above 45*-50* track stays operating on Saturdays/Sundays until we get our first covering of the season.

raidmagic
12-19-2015, 08:41 PM
That is a good looking car. Good luck with it. Looks like you are doing it right.

KyleCim
12-20-2015, 10:33 AM
Thank you, happy to be coming down closer to the finish and getting it out racing. Working on changing over the stripe on the car to black while we are saving a little for a few final fab needs. Also got the windshield back in and made a few trim pieces to fill in the dash gap around the cage.

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raidmagic
12-20-2015, 12:08 PM
I kinda like how the white pops on the car. What did you do to the stripe? Tape it?

KyleCim
12-20-2015, 12:29 PM
Masked around the edges and painted. White looks good with the polished wheels but once the black wheels are on the car the stripe needs to be black.

raidmagic
12-20-2015, 02:50 PM
Yeah I can see it looking better with black wheels. Good looking car either way. I've never looked at a Hornet as a performance car before. Nice.

KyleCim
12-26-2015, 04:04 PM
I've been waiting a while for these, finally got them mounted up (thank god for my fathers old set of spoons). This is why the stripes are going black-

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And a little Leaf Spring Nation love-
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1986iroc
12-26-2015, 04:38 PM
Your car looks really good Did you do the bottom bars? I do not see rocker bars. I'm assuming they are under the car.

KyleCim
12-26-2015, 05:11 PM
Your car looks really good Did you do the bottom bars? I do not see rocker bars. I'm assuming they are under the car.

Thank you, and no rocker bars only the door bars. Only going for an 8.50 cert, our understanding is a unibody with factory firewall and floor pans they are not required.

1986iroc
12-26-2015, 08:04 PM
I thought with as much as you put in on top you were doing 25.5
Maybe when my AMC buddies go out east this summer I will tag along if you take your car. It's an AMC race I think cecil

gottuna
12-26-2015, 10:17 PM
whose hood. love the wheels and black stripes

KyleCim
12-27-2015, 09:28 AM
Bought the hood and cowl from VFN, they told me they didn't do custom anymore and wouldn't install the cowl themselves. Had a local body shop install after we cut a hole. They sell a gremlin hood only not the flat hornet hood so the raised center section made it a little tricky.

superbee 500
12-27-2015, 06:58 PM
Very Cool build

Kevin

raidmagic
12-27-2015, 07:32 PM
Hey I was cruising Craigslist today and saw this and thought of you. It's your twin.


http://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/5369762870.html


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KyleCim
12-28-2015, 05:46 AM
I'd love to have an original SC360, looks like a pretty nice car!

bobb428
01-01-2016, 08:55 PM
I like the white stripe! Adds contrast. Really sweet build!

302StrokerGT
01-01-2016, 10:13 PM
nice car and build

ten5nova
01-03-2016, 01:05 AM
Just read through the whole thread, wow this turned into one hell of a car! I really like Hornets, can't wait to see this one go down the track!

KyleCim
01-03-2016, 03:27 PM
Thanks guys, it's been a fun ride- hope it does what we think it will do!

Doing little things while we wait for the word where it can go back to the fabricator to get the M9 in the car. After reading some threads on pain in the ass transbrake and line lock cables on steering wheels I searched around and found what seems to be a good option to make the cables easily disconnect for street or pit maneuvers. Ordered 2 TRS (Tip Ring Sleeve) connectors that have a lock button built in so they won't just fall out. This will allow me to disconnect them and wrap around the wheel spoke etc rather than having them all over the racepak/steering column.

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KyleCim
01-18-2016, 10:08 PM
Back with my Buddy Victor @Teixeira Fab.With the M9 rear the U bolts were not going to work with the back brace so he is building some smith style perches to mount the rear. Also fabricated a Trans mount and the chute mount as well. Its getting there, once it's back we will be ready for a driveshaft.

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Turbo 70 Camaro
01-19-2016, 11:11 AM
looks great

5pointslow
01-19-2016, 12:08 PM
Back with my Buddy Victor @Teixeira Fab.With the M9 rear the U bolts were not going to work with the back brace so he is building some smith style perches to mount the rear. Also fabricated a Trans mount and the chute mount as well. Its getting there, once it's back we will be ready for a driveshaft.

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i live in taunton , off rt 44 near auto auction ....... i have heard from a few people that your buddy there can weld his ass off !!!

all i will say is i heard he can weld as good or better than the other big shops in the area, cage wise ect

awesome build !

KyleCim
01-19-2016, 02:02 PM
i live in taunton , off rt 44 near auto auction ....... i have heard from a few people that your buddy there can weld his ass off !!!

all i will say is i heard he can weld as good or better than the other big shops in the area, cage wise ect

awesome build !

Victor is extremely talented, and his work is speaking for itself. We were just talking last night that he has enough work to keep himself busy until mid late summer in there. Does everything from Import engine bay shaving, Full cages like this car, Turbo manifolds, intercooler piping, Full headers and all the way up to fab work on Pulling Tractors. Oh and works 50+ hours a week construction.

I give the kid a ton of credit, he came over here from Portugal around 11 or 12 years old and what he can do is incredible. He takes the time to make sure everything that leaves the shop is what he would want on his own car. Some people find him brash and outspoken but I appreciate it, he always tells it like it is and Today that's a rare thing!

THE STING
01-19-2016, 04:54 PM
Looking good.

JDOW
01-19-2016, 06:23 PM
Victor is extremely talented, and his work is speaking for itself. We were just talking last night that he has enough work to keep himself busy until mid late summer in there. Does everything from Import engine bay shaving, Full cages like this car, Turbo manifolds, intercooler piping, Full headers and all the way up to fab work on Pulling Tractors. Oh and works 50+ hours a week construction.

I give the kid a ton of credit, he came over here from Portugal around 11 or 12 years old and what he can do is incredible. He takes the time to make sure everything that leaves the shop is what he would want on his own car. Some people find him brash and outspoken but I appreciate it, he always tells it like it is and Today that's a rare thing!

That's if you can understand what the green horn says.... Lol looks great, tell victor I said hi, long time no see.

KyleCim
01-20-2016, 01:31 PM
That's if you can understand what the green horn says.... Lol looks great, tell victor I said hi, long time no see.

Hahaha that is an acquired Skill, takes some time around him to figure that out lmao

KyleCim
01-25-2016, 04:37 PM
Back home again, driveshaft ordered and it seems we might be on the final stretch to allow this thing to move under its own power. Also made a list with 20+ other needed items that we cant afford right now but lets not look at the negatives lol. Need to disassemble and paint it all but right now it is too cold for any decent looking paint so I will have to wait a bit on that and hope nothing gets surface rust.

Trans cross member-

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Leaf perches Vic fabricated, used a piece of 1" round stock in the center to support around the leaf pin-

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Relocated the trans cooler to the center and spaced the front down to draw more air, also the chute mount tie in-

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/98096879-82DE-47A4-A839-49EAD945910B_zps8ucgojih.jpg

THE STING
01-25-2016, 05:45 PM
I would not run a solid tranny mount....dangerous.

KyleCim
01-25-2016, 06:53 PM
Even with the urethane engine mounts? We have the Bulltear 6cyl to 8cyl mounts that have a urethane insert. I always thought solid engine meant non solid Trans or vice versa.

HellCamino
01-26-2016, 07:10 PM
Solid/solid or urethane/urethane. Dont mix. Reason being if the trans is solid mount and the engine is urethane the flex from the torque could break the bellhousing.

At least that's how I've always done it.

THE STING
01-26-2016, 08:33 PM
If you have urethane engine mounts , I would use the urethane trans mount also.

dfuelman
01-26-2016, 09:26 PM
For what this is worth, EVERY trans guy I have ever dealt with cringes at the sight of a solid trans mount. I run solid engine and urethane trans with no issues. Aluminum trans case just does not take much twist or strain.

KyleCim
01-27-2016, 05:46 AM
Makes sense, I am looking into how to get some urethane into this mount. Wondering if removing the 2 bolt spacers or tubes in the top section and replacing with round urethane like on a BMW Trans mount would suffice.

THE STING
01-27-2016, 02:51 PM
Makes sense, I am looking into how to get some urethane into this mount. Wondering if removing the 2 bolt spacers or tubes in the top section and replacing with round urethane like on a BMW Trans mount would suffice.


That would be ok id say...even if its rubber.

8pack
02-28-2016, 01:21 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/33578F91-F8E8-488B-AD9E-6981002629BE_zpsmdd7fd7k.jpg



Sorry I am slow and a couple pages behind but is that their heavy duty hood or the lite lift off version? Are you happy with it?

By the way nice build.

KyleCim
02-28-2016, 07:02 PM
It is the lift off version. We had to cut 75% of it out so quality didn't seem bad but had no intention of using it without the cowl.

Took a little time but we are 90% done and assembled out back. Need to add some brake line back to the calipers and bleed, but assembly is complete. I spent a ton of time researching rear brakes that work with a double beadlock and it paid off, we have JUST enough to clearance. Having the Trans mount modified to accept a poly mount then we should be able to see if she moves!!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/109CDA0F-7AB5-4422-93AF-478A217C0BE5_zps4k0nf5oh.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/E691B9FF-A5EA-43AB-95BC-A4222852680A_zpsxfvsexp5.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/661B42F5-59B3-4390-A53E-9E04A2787DCB_zps5d0lhww0.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/E37D61DB-24F1-4397-B708-5DCC9245B6BB_zpsixp3pnex.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/34476935-6B14-4CF3-833F-D5E163A15439_zpssnyuzqet.jpg

8pack
02-29-2016, 10:16 AM
Wow that's tight, looks awesome.

KyleCim
03-08-2016, 08:41 PM
Made up some door panels and 1/4 trim panels from sheet aluminum. Made the mistake of tracing the original 1/4 trim vs making it to the actual size but doesn't look too bad. I still want to try and get the back seat in the car as well.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/3A6D9201-CF19-4A2B-B926-C885322D595F_zpsur6mmlux.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/A8C84F0C-EE2B-45A2-BCAF-7CBC49583710_zpsqdle8hzi.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/17BB61BE-AF60-4B4C-9870-3AADBFFA98CE_zpsqeiudi3n.jpg

KyleCim
03-18-2016, 09:32 AM
So yesterday was a big day, milestone so to say. Needed to load the car up for a little more fab work and then some paintwork. Finally after almost 3 full years I was able to drive the car under its own power. We ended up quite rushed since the sky opened up right when we needed to Load up. My truck/trailer combo does not fit into the driveway (narrow street and narrow driveway), so we have to park in a lot about an 1/8th mile away. Of course the car was pulled into the garage after doing rear end work so I essentially got a bunch of use out of reverse.

Good notes- forward and reverse gears work and converter definitely has some stall, car runs damn good after warm fires up on a half a click of the starter! Bad notes- shift cable needs adjustment badly, rear brakes simply don't work (thinking we need to change the rear master cyl bore size), and lastly it is surely going to take some getting used to making sure everything is powered on the switch panel.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/605176A7-7BE2-435B-BBA2-7B80B6ABB51C_zpso0jgapjz.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/B6C2383B-2750-4956-8339-CD7C92B3FA77_zps7ycywkqk.jpg

sigman
03-18-2016, 05:48 PM
Nice car.

KyleCim
03-22-2016, 10:53 PM
Some photo updates as we grow closer to the track opening.

Re-worked the Trans crossmember, now using a GM poly mount-
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/9735DC0F-79D9-4B47-980E-9AC6663BDA5A_zpsbhmtkozl.jpg

Fabricated a Driveshaft loop, nice and tight to the floor for exhaust clearance-

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/3944973D-F1C4-49C1-9B58-2A2030F7BAEE_zps0mho4u33.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/EA7B1A7C-8DD0-42C5-932C-1B333E38979F_zpsfsiuwpwk.jpg

Oil pan hung rather low, Victor decided to make up some oil pan saver "ski's" just in case, limited on space but they are 1/4" below the low point of the pan, gives me just about 3.5" ground clearance- yikes!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/0C0E8E2C-61C5-4B03-99A1-D164F4029853_zpshwuppiyv.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/A8737583-A16A-4C21-986F-FF10E159D5D8_zpsicsgnsaw.jpg

Simple exhaust, 3" into a Dr.Gas X pipe and Dynomax 6" race bullets, also added in the Evac bungs.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/AED00932-2A67-4394-8888-8F5698E99324_zpsv5dqnq0z.jpg

After making the door panels The factory handle sat a bit too flush and would be difficult to open with gloves on in case of an emergency so made a spring loaded release handle to make it easier to get out. It's a push handle due to AMC's handle design.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/4AFC57CC-E6E5-4EB0-BFCC-43BA058E84F2_zpsanpv2gtd.jpg

And lastly for tonight, the belly pan. Our local NHRA track has been pushing pretty hard for them so decided to start on the right foot. Brought it up to help the aerodynamics a little and covers from in front of the damper back to the end of the Trans pan-

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/A0D44548-4806-4CF6-AE71-420EC3B93E22_zpstpxsvagj.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/801BABB9-2580-4963-996D-AD5A5E5A8F3F_zpscpfsorwl.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/AFD751F6-E7A3-43D2-A577-93DCAC280F24_zpslsgp5wgw.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/1B8B59EC-E2C1-4E8F-B9DF-7F075653D89D_zpsuo5yhfoc.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/2C300733-595E-4BB4-8895-E58A872DD588_zpsxrxjh0ih.jpg

Still in progress is the dzus install for the hood, making a thermostat plate with AN fitting, space the rear shocks a bit more from the axle housing and setting up the golf cart push bar. We're in the Home stretch now!

MercilessMike
03-22-2016, 10:59 PM
LOVE IT !!!

dfuelman
03-22-2016, 11:06 PM
This is just a suggestion. With your push to open door handle, you might want a redesign on the handle. The pointed grips might work again you in a frontal crash. Maybe something less pointed.

Love the car.

KyleCim
03-22-2016, 11:22 PM
I agree it looks sharp in the photo but the points are a bit rounded. If I make it that far in a crash I will have serious problems lol Window net was also added and will be in front of the handle during racing. I will get some better pics in a few days

KyleCim
03-25-2016, 05:17 AM
Not quite a driving video but loading the trailer last night.

http://youtu.be/G1LOM81VRrg

Johnston Motorsports
03-28-2016, 03:42 PM
car looks and sounds awesome! great work!

KyleCim
03-31-2016, 02:19 PM
Thank You!

In the shop at work this morning doing the alignment. Slowly knocking that list of "to-do's" out.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/D0B7A733-A6CC-4100-A79A-F8968384914F_zpsirsvymv3.jpg

KyleCim
04-04-2016, 05:42 AM
Car spent Saturday with Russ at ABC auto body in Fall River and we made the change over to the black stripe. I like it, gives the car some attitude and works great with the wheels. Going to add some tint and need to get the original hood down to the paint store so they can mix up some blue to get the cowl hood painted to match the car along with the fiberglass bumpers.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/8882D291-28FB-4A57-930C-30E11661CBF8_zpsptunbq3y.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/0F675429-6DB4-48A3-B75E-DAE3847AA307_zpsxsygcyhe.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/975BD6A8-2EF5-4616-957D-D4E5A8A249EE_zpsnoctmzji.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/A42680CF-3E57-44F9-9121-16AC311CE5C5_zpsuanp8gbp.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/09DFC1AC-25F4-46BF-A107-F1C0200BC56B_zpsaahashe8.jpg

Freudian Slit
04-04-2016, 06:26 AM
very nice

Geerbangr
04-04-2016, 06:33 AM
:supz:

KyleCim
04-21-2016, 10:21 AM
Well, nearly 3 years in and we finally made it down the track. Took the car to a rental yesterday at New England Dragway after working on it every night and weekend for the past month. Even with that, I was still working on the car at 1am Tuesday night 40 mins from home at work since I can't run it without waking all my neighbors up and pissing off my wife.

Considering I have never drove the car more than up and down my street around the cul de sac, it went very well. First pass was one of those, let's see how it drives, if it's straight and the brakes work aka the let's not die pass. Off idle it went [email protected] Came back, checked the car over and found no glaring problems. Decided to set the Trans brake at 3,000 and head back up. 2nd pass the burnout is better, car goes [email protected] and hits a 2,000rpm rev limiter around the 1,000ft mark then didn't want to rev past 2k all the way back to the trailer. A bit confused I whipped out the laptop, found the grid was set up for safety shutdown after 9 seconds limiting rpm to 2,000. Upped the numbers a bit and headed back for the lanes.

3rd pass again at 3,000 Trans brake car went 11.1 @120 and the header gaskets started to leak a little. Charge the battery and back up for pass #4, bumped the 2step for the Trans brake to 3,500 and the 2-3 shift I somehow screwed up it felt like the shifter was in between and the car went 11.1 @ 118 and the header gasket leak was worse again. Tightened up the header bolts which sealed them a little, came back out and went [email protected] with a 1.50 60' and the exhaust tapping away after the pass with gasket leaks. Tried to get one more pass in with a 4,000 limit on the brake but car spun and went high 1.6 60' to a 11.0 pass. Trans pushed a little fluid from the vent and the rental was just about finished at 5 so we started packing up.

Considering I'd never driven the car more than 10mph before yesterday, I am very happy to come away with a 10 second pass with little effort. I have some vibrations I would like to take care of as well as some things like a trans temp sensor and trans overflow I didn't have time to get installed. May is pretty hectic for me so I am not quite sure when I will be back up but we will start pushing the car more and more from here on out. Unfortunately, it's 2-300lbs heavier than I was hoping which sucks. With me in the car it weighed 3,145 which I will now actively start trying to get weight off. I need to get the headers sealed, I think I might have 2 issues going on with them. For 1 I know the collectors are hitting the trans, I don't think it's allowing them to seal correctly. #2 the heads were cut to raise compression, I'm not sure the header flange angle is happy with that.

Overall very happy to say I have a running race car again!HUGE thanks to out to My friend Victor @ Teixeira Fab and Anthony Apuzzo @ Accurate Transmissions along with my Wife for dealing with me and my Father for going at this project hard with me.

https://youtu.be/wrjo1UXgspk

kickedafordlately?Yes!
04-21-2016, 10:32 AM
Well, nearly 3 years in and we finally made it down the track. Took the car to a rental yesterday at New England Dragway after working on it every night and weekend for the past month. Even with that, I was still working on the car at 1am Tuesday night 40 mins from home at work since I can't run it without waking all my neighbors up and pissing off my wife.

Considering I have never drove the car more than up and down my street around the cul de sac, it went very well. First pass was one of those, let's see how it drives, if it's straight and the brakes work aka the let's not die pass. Off idle it went [email protected] Came back, checked the car over and found no glaring problems. Decided to set the Trans brake at 3,000 and head back up. 2nd pass the burnout is better, car goes [email protected] and hits a 2,000rpm rev limiter around the 1,000ft mark then didn't want to rev past 2k all the way back to the trailer. A bit confused I whipped out the laptop, found the grid was set up for safety shutdown after 9 seconds limiting rpm to 2,000. Upped the numbers a bit and headed back for the lanes.

3rd pass again at 3,000 Trans brake car went 11.1 @120 and the header gaskets started to leak a little. Charge the battery and back up for pass #4, bumped the 2step for the Trans brake to 3,500 and the 2-3 shift I somehow screwed up it felt like the shifter was in between and the car went 11.1 @ 118 and the header gasket leak was worse again. Tightened up the header bolts which sealed them a little, came back out and went [email protected] with a 1.50 60' and the exhaust tapping away after the pass with gasket leaks. Tried to get one more pass in with a 4,000 limit on the brake but car spun and went high 1.6 60' to a 11.0 pass. Trans pushed a little fluid from the vent and the rental was just about finished at 5 so we started packing up.

Considering I'd never driven the car more than 10mph before yesterday, I am very happy to come away with a 10 second pass with little effort. I have some vibrations I would like to take care of as well as some things like a trans temp sensor and trans overflow I didn't have time to get installed. May is pretty hectic for me so I am not quite sure when I will be back up but we will start pushing the car more and more from here on out. Unfortunately, it's 2-300lbs heavier than I was hoping which sucks. With me in the car it weighed 3,145 which I will now actively start trying to get weight off. I need to get the headers sealed, I think I might have 2 issues going on with them. For 1 I know the collectors are hitting the trans, I don't think it's allowing them to seal correctly. #2 the heads were cut to raise compression, I'm not sure the header flange angle is happy with that.

Overall very happy to say I have a running race car again!HUGE thanks to out to My friend Victor @ Teixeira Fab and Anthony Apuzzo @ Accurate Transmissions along with my Wife for dealing with me and my Father for going at this project hard with me.

https://youtu.be/wrjo1UXgspk


Very cool! :smt023

toms78bu
04-21-2016, 02:10 PM
Congrats! Love it man, and it sounds awesome going down the track.

KyleCim
04-21-2016, 02:48 PM
thanks guys! I LOVE how it sounds, I give the credit on that to Dr. Gas and their X pipe design. I have one on my Fox Body and it sounds awesome as well.

THE STING
04-21-2016, 04:07 PM
Congrats Kyle , car looks and sounds great.

KyleCim
04-21-2016, 04:50 PM
Congrats Kyle , car looks and sounds great.

Thanks Rob, I feel like it is missing some power somewhere. I was a bit surprised it only trapped 121, I think I have something going on vs the dyno. 5 keys right now that are different compared to the dyno session are headers (which are leaking), throttle cable setup , Air filter, the converter and the ignition (grid, possible I have a setting wrong).

But, I am very happy where we started that is for sure. HP calculators are showing yesterdays passes indicating 470-480 flywheel which is 100 less than the dyno. We shall see!

THE STING
04-21-2016, 09:45 PM
Thanks Rob, I feel like it is missing some power somewhere. I was a bit surprised it only trapped 121, I think I have something going on vs the dyno. 5 keys right now that are different compared to the dyno session are headers (which are leaking), throttle cable setup , Air filter, the converter and the ignition (grid, possible I have a setting wrong).

But, I am very happy where we started that is for sure. HP calculators are showing yesterdays passes indicating 470-480 flywheel which is 100 less than the dyno. We shall see!


What size axles are in the rear ? gun drilled ?

Rear gear ?

Converter flash on the T brake ? What's it suppose to be ?

Size of exhaust and type of muffler ?

Probably lose the air cleaner at the track.

Make sure for full throttle.

What is it going threw the traps at..RPM ?

THE STING
04-21-2016, 10:31 PM
Is the distributor lock ?

Timing set at ?

Valve lash hot ?

:)

KyleCim
04-22-2016, 05:37 AM
Only answers I have currently-

35 spline non gun drilled
4.10
Not sure on converter, bought it used with the "car ran 10.40 with it" description
Exhaust is 3" with dr.gas X and dynomax 6" race billets
Don't know trap rpm I will have to pay more attention
Dist is locked. 31*
Havnt done lash since it came off the dyno.

302ute
04-22-2016, 07:57 AM
Sweet car! Well done for first time out

THE STING
04-22-2016, 07:44 PM
Only answers I have currently-

35 spline non gun drilled
4.10
Not sure on converter, bought it used with the "car ran 10.40 with it" description
Exhaust is 3" with dr.gas X and dynomax 6" race billets
Don't know trap rpm I will have to pay more attention
Dist is locked. 31*
Havnt done lash since it came off the dyno.



Ok , I looked back at your build and dyno sheet....

If this is NA only combo you need the converter to flash to minimum of 5k on the T brake..(take out the rpm chip)...what it flashes to in the first couple seconds is the flash.

Should be 3 1/5 inch exhaust minimum...id go 4.

With them heads 34 to 37 on the timing...whether it liked it or not on the dyno.

You need 6800 to 72 thru the traps.

Make sure the new header fit dog leg exhaust.

Valve lash I see it says 14 hot.....to tight....play with 18 to 26 hot.


Car should be around 130mph and ET will depend on launch of course.

KyleCim
04-22-2016, 10:16 PM
Now that's a post! I appreciate the aggressiveness and to-do list. Right now until I get my bearings in this thing that is a HUGE help. Thanks a ton Rob!

What do you feel on Jet? I think I may be under jetted right now going by the dyno session notes. Might have gotten lucky, I think it was far too lean Wednesday when I started looking into it yesterday/today. Looks like it's got 70/78 in it now since it hasn't been touched since the dyno. My buddy Norm on his much milder stock unported head 390 that has also been .96 @121 is around 85/93 on an 850 Demon.That coupled with the fact I had-400 area DA Wednesday vs the 2200+ according to the dyno sheet has me wondering.

THE STING
04-22-2016, 10:57 PM
Yes I forgot about the jetting...id start 78/85

Then jet by mph from there.

THE STING
04-22-2016, 11:07 PM
Maybe 80/88 , I forget you got some good air there.....the squirts should be 35s

8pack
04-26-2016, 06:55 PM
You car is looking great... Like the black stripe.

KyleCim
04-26-2016, 07:29 PM
Well....I feel like an idiot, but a Happy idiot. Car went 10.96 on about 60% throttle hahahaha

https://youtu.be/LU_tRftLuRM

THE STING
04-26-2016, 10:43 PM
There's 5mph.

Car will show some good numbers once you get it all figured out.

tsanchez
04-27-2016, 04:20 PM
Great job

barnz_xr8
05-01-2016, 04:32 AM
lol thats a good problem to have.

TurboSBC
05-01-2016, 04:57 AM
Damn. Looks like the secondaries were barely even opening. Did you check how much they were opening with pedal only?

Jebchevelle
05-01-2016, 07:00 AM
looking nice.

KyleCim
05-01-2016, 08:48 PM
Damn. Looks like the secondaries were barely even opening. Did you check how much they were opening with pedal only?

That was with the pedal. In the side shot the first 2 tries were by pedal and obviously second 2 show what full throw would be. In the overhead shot, first 2 show what it was during the passes, then I actuated by hand. I'd say th secondaries were probably about 10% open lol

KyleCim
05-22-2016, 09:21 PM
Well we went back up to the track today and a fully opening carb was worth almost 5 tenths and 8mph. Got in about 5 passes, started off with a [email protected] with the limiter at 3,000 off the brake. With a better feel for it, raised it to 3,500 and came back with a 10.401 @128.9. At that point things were going well and all seemed good so I went to 4,000 on the chip and made 2 passes where I somehow had the shifter bind up on the 2/3 shift and it ran back to back 10.5x's. Car was coming Out to the right so I need to add some preload on the caltracs, but made another pass and it went 10.376 @ 129.23 with a 1.44 60'. Very happy with how the car is responding, wish the track was closer so we could test some more but that's the game we play. Still feel like there is a bunch left on the table but progress feels good.

Thanks!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/0ABF3847-27F4-4F46-A0A2-E78EBB9CD128_zpse8fnumpx.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/8F43357E-4FE9-4A47-AC94-36FA405A2FD0_zps7qln6pss.png

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/386F96F8-2501-4460-B8A2-4D16D0EF9499_zpsqvqt659z.png

THE STING
05-23-2016, 08:43 PM
Great job Kyle....make some adjustments and try it again...the car is running real good.

What was the weight again with you in it ?

KyleCim
05-23-2016, 08:56 PM
3,140 this time out. I think if I can drop some weight, mess with the suspension some and tune wise then hit it harder out of the hole the car might scratch the 9's in the right air.

THE STING
05-23-2016, 10:04 PM
Did you change the jets ?

Maybe try a couple thou looser hot on the valve lash.

If you want to see if the exhaust is a restriction uncap it for a pass...if it runs within a 1/5 tenth your good....I'd be shocked if you don't gain more than a 1 tenth.

GLHS60
05-24-2016, 03:34 AM
Car spent Saturday with Russ at ABC auto body in Fall River and we made the change over to the black stripe. I like it, gives the car some attitude and works great with the wheels. Going to add some tint and need to get the original hood down to the paint store so they can mix up some blue to get the cowl hood painted to match the car along with the fiberglass bumpers.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/8882D291-28FB-4A57-930C-30E11661CBF8_zpsptunbq3y.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/0F675429-6DB4-48A3-B75E-DAE3847AA307_zpsxsygcyhe.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/975BD6A8-2EF5-4616-957D-D4E5A8A249EE_zpsnoctmzji.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/A42680CF-3E57-44F9-9121-16AC311CE5C5_zpsuanp8gbp.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/09DFC1AC-25F4-46BF-A107-F1C0200BC56B_zpsaahashe8.jpg

Beautiful car!!

Is it just me or is it screaming out for some S/C 360, or 401 decals??

KyleCim
05-24-2016, 05:31 AM
I left the carb alone for now wanted to see what it had just getting it to WOT. Definitely still some room to play I think!

peterlocal22
05-24-2016, 07:34 AM
awesome!

KyleCim
05-24-2016, 09:39 AM
Car oddly at times pulls to the right at times, wondering if it is something as simple as where I am at in the groove. Happy that it is leaving pretty well/flat and not needing an ARB yet.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/C32DDE91-1E94-438A-AC96-DD3668B40999_zps4rsdysua.jpg

radir68
05-24-2016, 11:24 AM
This car is just bitchin. Congrats on a job well done

8pack
05-24-2016, 09:38 PM
Love the AMC... Nicely done:cool:

THE STING
05-24-2016, 10:04 PM
I left the carb alone for now wanted to see what it had just getting it to WOT. Definitely still some room to play I think!



When you do just go up a few numbers front and back and compare the mph...that will tell you all you need to know....

Timing 2 degrees at a time.

Valve lash 2 thou at a time also.

Tune one at a time...id start with the carb first.

KyleCim
05-25-2016, 12:08 AM
What did you like coming out RPM wise at Rob? I ended Sunday at 4K still felt like it wanted more.

Thanks man!

THE STING
05-28-2016, 04:40 PM
What did you like coming out RPM wise at Rob? I ended Sunday at 4K still felt like it wanted more.

Thanks man!



On a all motor deal i like about 1k lower than peak tq....But run it up till she don't improve the 60ft

14-71 Inside
05-28-2016, 07:03 PM
Love the AMC... Nicely done:cool:

You are just sucking up because you are afraid the AMC powered hornet is going to be faster than your mopar powered gremlin….


But you are also correct, this is a really cool Hornet.

THE STING
05-29-2016, 02:52 PM
It is probably the groove with the radials..

Slicks are more forgiving and far as lining up goes , but you will be faster and quicker with the radial..

KyleCim
06-15-2016, 05:00 PM
Went out last weekend and raced the first index race of the year. Switched from a 4 hole spacer to an open spacer and the car went [email protected] only leaving at 3,000rpm so it seemed to like that more. Other than that no changes in best et. Just some bad-ass pictures-

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/C0D1C78C-40BC-4B1E-BA53-9D7DA9F23B64_zps50zg3a2u.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/55A97AE4-8D35-4985-8772-6B852D11357B_zpsocnshw26.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/A5BCBD10-4490-45B9-9532-F428A764E6CD_zps7dsgoim4.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/B7CFA69B-B891-4F54-9EDF-41085D9ED042_zps4gt2jkju.jpg

THE STING
06-16-2016, 01:07 PM
Car looks great..

Keep up the good work.

racestatus
06-21-2016, 11:29 AM
Thanks guys, it's been a fun ride- hope it does what we think it will do!

Doing little things while we wait for the word where it can go back to the fabricator to get the M9 in the car. After reading some threads on pain in the ass transbrake and line lock cables on steering wheels I searched around and found what seems to be a good option to make the cables easily disconnect for street or pit maneuvers. Ordered 2 TRS (Tip Ring Sleeve) connectors that have a lock button built in so they won't just fall out. This will allow me to disconnect them and wrap around the wheel spoke etc rather than having them all over the racepak/steering column.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/926AF630-8621-48EE-91D5-7ACFD1F39600_zps7d6rcbvr.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/4BF971F4-8B52-4DF2-92B3-5EF711FD13F1_zpsd5mohfri.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/2143A620-BEB3-47B5-A73C-EE0BDCDAD952_zpsydeg1qsb.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/1A3BEA51-D082-4ED3-8114-A33BE0775F2D_zpsoivr4pvg.jpg
car looks great loving the black stripe its much nicer! on a side note where did you get these? its a great idea and would like to do the same!

NBCustom
06-22-2016, 01:18 PM
What a beauty! Great work, perfect in my opion! Best regards from Norway (Europe)

KyleCim
07-13-2016, 06:07 AM
I have always been a street car type of guy, never much for stripped race cars so my father and I felt the car still needed some additions. Fitted the carpet and made up a rear seat delete panel from some old trailer cabinet shelving. Covered with black carpet and some aluminum trim. Very happy, makes the inside of the car look 100 times better.

On the performance end, still getting used to the car and I have been racing 10.50 index with it. Will start pushing it again when the weather cools down. Also have a set of 2" primary headers being made and starting to look into Spray options for next season.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/240CB450-EBEC-4F88-A48F-000EBA5AD799_zps9w2ulxcb.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/082A7E97-B6BE-4FEF-9658-17D6A81251B1_zpscpuaziog.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/5F5A5664-4373-4E1C-920F-65723BC9F512_zpswvwcwpxm.jpg

5pointslow
07-13-2016, 08:11 AM
saw you run at last index race at NED ...car looks nice
i assume you were the one that had the Amc flag on your trailer ?

I plan on running my fairmont in Fast street (10.50) class next year

5pointslow
07-13-2016, 08:12 AM
did you buy carpet for the hornet ? or did you make it from somthing else came out great

KyleCim
07-13-2016, 08:29 AM
Thanks man! I will probably keep running 10.50 index next year too. And yes, we were flying the American flag along with the AMC flag.

Front section is a molded hornet carpet trimmed to work with the fixed seat brackets and through the floor subframe connectors. Rear is universal carpet my Father picked up at Ocean State Job Lot lol.

5pointslow
07-13-2016, 08:45 AM
Thanks man! I will probably keep running 10.50 index next year too. And yes, we were flying the American flag along with the AMC flag.

Front section is a molded hornet carpet trimmed to work with the fixed seat brackets and through the floor subframe connectors. Rear is universal carpet my Father picked up at Ocean State Job Lot lol.

hey it works and looks good


yeah that 10.50 class seems like a good class , whats your plans with the nitrous maybe run 8.50 index ?

x275 is just nuts on what you need to be competitive , all id be is a field filler i plan on using a slide plate from chris moretti that runs in 10.50 class that he makes

my car should go high 9s based on weight and hp in a perfect world but dial in back for 10.50


If your racing the august night race with jet cars i will come by and say hello

KyleCim
07-13-2016, 08:50 AM
I will be there in August. I have a plate from Chris on the car also, he just made up some larger plates for me that I need to get picked up.

I really don't have any plans for what it will do down the road, never messed with the stuff so don't want to overshoot what its capable of.

5pointslow
07-17-2016, 12:37 AM
Nice win today ....... hard work pays off
Look forward to running with you next year in fast street

Andy

KyleCim
07-17-2016, 03:45 PM
Thanks man, were you there!? What's your name anyway? Haha

Event was an Import vs. Domestic deal, ran in All Motor Pro (registered street cars using DOT tires). It was hot, track was REALLY greasy but overall a good day at the track.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/C9C10CCA-D335-43C4-8718-24D88215C8AA_zpstedur8in.jpg

1slowSVO
08-21-2016, 02:40 AM
I love the car! I've been debating whether to build an AMC 420 to replace my AMX's tired 390 or to do a cammed 6.4 Hemi from a wrecked car, and this thread has inspired me to stick with AMC power!

KyleCim
08-27-2016, 07:33 AM
I love the car! I've been debating whether to build an AMC 420 to replace my AMX's tired 390 or to do a cammed 6.4 Hemi from a wrecked car, and this thread has inspired me to stick with AMC power!

I love being AMC powered, especially all the questions people ask me and the tons of compliments on how the car sounds. But it's tough man, what you can build for a big 3 motor vs the money you have to spend to build an AMC motor is crazy!

Missed my mid season update, have not done anything besides 10.50 index races and the past 2 the car slowed down. Found the waste of time Lokar pedal and cable setup stretched and wouldn't go WOT again. Said fuck it and went with a new fully adjustable pedal assembly from Afco and mechanical linkage. I do plan to add a beefier return spring this is just what I had for now.

ET is still a best of 10.37, plan to work on the suspension a bit and I worked with Steve at IS and we have a sledgehammer plate waiting to go on the car hopefully before the end of the season.

Pedal/linkage setup-
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/C6F4E056-DA5F-4BAF-BB66-49BF4380E6F5_zpsek14t1uf.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/4B64B8BD-DE44-4617-9E3B-EC4FD436C2CA_zpstu2zeilc.jpg

And a few pics from the track-
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/67523F4A-13D2-4D4E-8947-1C4E3A72C2A7_zpsusopu0ij.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/9E0735B3-320E-491E-82D1-A6D353DEF62A_zpsshxrzrbw.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/6838EACF-53BA-4363-8959-DBF5691B2F28_zpswffsdnlb.jpeg

55sedan
08-28-2016, 04:45 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/C6F4E056-DA5F-4BAF-BB66-49BF4380E6F5_zpsek14t1uf.jpg

This is an awesome car. Very well built. Curious how well you like the Afco pedal setup. I too have a Lokar assembly in my 55 and its got to go.

KyleCim
08-28-2016, 07:30 PM
The adjustability is just awesome. I won't get to race with it until 9/11 but so far I am really happy with it. Very smooth and absolutely no slop/play its all business makes the throttle insanely responsive. This specific model is a little awkward with the side mount but it worked out really well. No matter what I did I couldn't get the Lokar adjustment to get 100% throttle.

THE STING
08-28-2016, 08:40 PM
Car looks great Kyle but I think you have a misconception of what it cost to build the other big 3 small blocks comparable parts and performance.

Head stud kit for a 18 degree sbc is right at the head stud kit for amc price wise..

Molnar rods your using are maybe 50 bucks more than sbc rods.

Custom pistons should not have a big difference....over the counter maybe but I have not run over the counter slugs in a while so i'm not sure on them....last someone told me was around 650 bucks for some wiseco 401 stuff that look real good....a 360 i built last year i used the wiseco and they were under 600 and were super nice...beefy enough to take nitrous as they also advertise that.

A brodix 18 degree intake is over $400 and the indy you have is right at $400.

I'm using sbc 18 degree prices as that is what AMC is from the factory..

I believe your using eddy heads , price vs price the 18 degree sbc head is cheaper through summit but head flow capabilities is not close to the AMC so the chevy head would have to be stepped up along with the cost.

Your using a stock crank that I would put up against any aftermarket junk under a thousand bucks....that is the only big savings a sbc would have on your engine.

A top notch crank from Moldex like we have in my brothers engines is going to be $ inline with any other brands.

I can go on matching prices vs horsepower, but I can tell you this shit ain't cheap for anyone.

Now I don't know who built you this engine and maybe that's where the problem lies...because part differential is not that great...and this is sbc i'm comparing with..small Ford and Chrysler could be even more (doubtfully less) as i've never compared against them.

KyleCim
08-29-2016, 11:09 AM
I know you have to pay to play, I don't regret it but being a guy who doesn't assemble/do motor work it costs to have someone else do it. I tried to find an AMC guy to do the motor hoping for that experience and knowledge base but nobody was interested so I am sure we paid more than we should have in the end.

You can be damn sure I will be in touch with you if we ever have to go back inside this motor lol And I will report back on how the Wiseco PT's like the N20.

THE STING
08-30-2016, 09:26 PM
Your guy did a nice job with the engine as it is performing very well.

I like that throttle deal as well , I get the lokar's to work but they are a pain...may be putting one in this winter.

KyleCim
08-31-2016, 05:38 AM
I think if we could have used the stock pedal it may have worked out a little better. I'm not sure if it is because we used Bulltear mounts on the I6 crossmember or what but the valve cover is right up against the firewall where the factory cable would exit. No way a cable would have made a sharp enough turn, we had to use a bottom pivot Lokar pedal and it had some funky bracketry that seemed flimsy.

Either way, 9/11 we will see how this deal works out.

Wardy
08-31-2016, 07:02 AM
Awesome car! as an aussie mopar fan (close cousin to AMC) Im really digging it. The colour, wheels etc all flow so nicely. Looking forward to future updates

5pointslow
08-31-2016, 07:18 AM
throttle set up looks good

KyleCim
10-06-2016, 04:47 PM
So with the air change and the throttle linkage, we were able to get the car back into the 10.30's pretty regularly on motor. Back in August we jumped on Induction Solutions sale they were running and ordered up the full Sledgehammer plate kit for the car. After racing it pretty much every weekend in Sept and working on wiring/ system install during the week we were able to get the car out yesterday for a track rental to test.

When I ordered the Kit, I told Steve I wanted to start slow and asked for the lowest tuneup he could provide which was a .034n/.024f for 100-125est hp. Yesterday was a bit nerve racking for us since this was the first time I had so much as held a nitrous bottle, nevermind sprayed anything. Steve walked me through some basics the night before and we decided to take out 10* due to my small head size (49cc). Made a 330' pass and shut it down, read some plugs and all seemed well so we decided to make a full pass. Everyone kept telling me 100 shot was nothing and not to worry about it but we still had reservations.

All went well, left at 3,500 off the brake (built a launch retard map in the grid rather than delay the shot) and the pass went smoothly-
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/5BDB87CA-40A9-423F-A700-B0A7E97095C1_zpsxbbzyutu.jpg



. Pushed the car back and cut up some plugs and still didn't see any reason to stop so warmed a bottle and loaded up. Next pass I decided to change to 4,000 off the brake with no other changes. Car certainly left a little harder, ET dropped about a hundredth and lost just under a half mph-
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/7562E767-D771-4C5C-83D2-37A97A2D837A_zpsumvryx5d.jpg

We were really happy and wanted to try a degree back in/out to see what it liked but after the .71 tech tracked me down and was less than thrilled and shut me down for the day. License time. Overall, VERY VERY happy with the cars first season of racing, it felt great to be running with the Brand X stuff with good ol Rambler power on drag radials! Huge thank you's go out to Athony Apuzzo @ Accurate transmissions for a killer 727 he did for us, Victor @ Teixeira Fab for all the fab work, Steve Johnson and the crew at Induction Solutions for walking a newbie through getting into the nitrous world, Control Freak suspensions awesome tubular front end and coilover components, my Father for all his hard work on the car and my wife. Season is up for me, going to do some maintnence and I have some 2" primary headers to get installed on the car looking forward to what we can do in the future!

Half ass Video of the 2 passes from yesterday-
https://youtu.be/R_nEOXs33Iw


And some photos from the past month-
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/70386332-0AD8-441E-BF17-6F3519E419D4_zps4uhgyc0h.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/776A2529-2A11-4471-8490-86CAE9D67C71_zpsesjig02j.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/56E264C6-A5CB-40C2-9D7B-6A89C3B0A375_zpsf12hkdv7.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/4BD61AC5-F744-4CF2-AD0E-4133E9DA0474_zpsrqp1shyi.jpg

Thank You everyone for all the compliments on the build, tons of money and hard work but days like yesterday make it worth it.

Thanks,
Kyle C

kickedafordlately?Yes!
10-06-2016, 05:50 PM
Nice!

tsanchez
10-18-2016, 03:36 PM
Awesome! Great job

5pointslow
10-22-2016, 09:26 AM
nice job Kyle

you guys work your asses off and it shows in results for having a new car out this year

THE STING
10-22-2016, 08:19 PM
Good job , running strong.

Kyle did you buy that water pump cover or make it ?

And what inline water pump are you using ?

KyleCim
10-23-2016, 08:34 AM
Thanks guys!

Rob, both the plate and pump are mezeire units. They have been perfect all year, if I remember correctly I did need to clearance the plate very slightly around the balancer.

THE STING
10-27-2016, 10:19 PM
Thanks guys!

Rob, both the plate and pump are mezeire units. They have been perfect all year, if I remember correctly I did need to clearance the plate very slightly around the balancer.



Nice , thanks.

raidmagic
11-11-2016, 11:23 PM
That is a damn good looking car and it has the timeslips to back it up. Very nice. Congrats.

KyleCim
12-08-2016, 10:00 AM
Thank You.

Local video buff put together some of the best motor passes in a feature. First pass was running 10.50 index, second 2 was an all motor street class.

https://youtu.be/J7Ote_yZ3Bc

gottuna
12-08-2016, 11:07 PM
hey kyle, first of all bad ass... where'd you get those headlights?

KyleCim
12-08-2016, 11:14 PM
eBay! Maybe $35 bucks?

gottuna
12-09-2016, 06:09 PM
awesome thanks!

ten5nova
12-13-2016, 05:31 PM
Thank You.

Local video buff put together some of the best motor passes in a feature. First pass was running 10.50 index, second 2 was an all motor street class.

https://youtu.be/J7Ote_yZ3Bc

Awesome video, the Hornet looks badass, and sounds damn good too, you guys nailed that car!

KyleCim
12-29-2016, 01:46 PM
Thanks Ten5!

Since its winter and it sucks I will post some useless pics and updates. Pulled the heads off due to a passenger side external leak we had battled with all season. Turns out it appears the gasket didn't seat properly and the composites that were in the motor were not happy on the passenger bank around cyls 4 and 6. The gaskets fire ring was deformed and not evenly spaced around the bore and it was seeping water all season, then on the 2nd Nitrous pass it started to piss water out onto the headers. It was assembled with whatever .045 composite gasket Edelbrock sells which gave us roughly a .054 Quench with the tiny ass 49cc chambers.

Plan is to re-assemble with .060 Cometics which in theory should open us to a .069 quench and widen the tuning window a little on the sauce. Cam is far from ideal with a 108lsa so we may have to dial back the exh lash to add some duration as well. Other changes are to add a set of 2" primary to 3.5" collector headers, switch to an ATI damper (for safety and the Chevy pulley pattern) and add a vacuum pump. First bunch of passes next season will be continuing on the baby jets messing with timing both back in and out while working on my License. RPM was about 7,0XX through the traps with just the 100 shot so I will need to drop gear # to spray more and run out the back in the 1/4.

We are having out first child (daughter) in March so my racing might be cut down some. While MAJORLY outgunned, I'm thinking I will just class fill our local X275 series so I get to run the car all out every trip out with the taller gear rather than Index racing. 2017 Goal I would have to say is a 5.8X pass and not pull the heads off again during the season.


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/9E639A5D-E2B4-4A5E-A8A3-FCC95B82915C_zpsyl6kcikp.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/ADE0494E-C458-498F-B789-E2E993E6B04D_zpsnzeotjdt.jpg


Happy New Year Everyone!
Thanks,
Kyle

5pointslow
01-01-2017, 07:23 PM
congrats on your child coming in march

happy new year

gottuna
01-02-2017, 03:09 PM
congrats on the new addition to your crew.... have a Happy New Year!!!!

THE STING
01-02-2017, 04:06 PM
Congrats Kyle on the expecting child,,

You may wan't to ask the machinist what the block and head finish is on your engine...cometics like a 50RA or finer...the composites you had required 60-80RA usually...

KyleCim
01-04-2017, 03:09 PM
I spoke with him about it, didnt ask the RA but I told him I was putting Cometics in and he said that was good. We did find that with the heads being cut down, the bolts were bottoming out and didnt compress the gasket right in that area.

Switching to a thicker gasket, hopefully no issues this season. Mocking up a set of Jim's 2" adapter style flange headers on the car now. Amazing how high off the ground they sit.

NITROUS NOVA
01-05-2017, 03:53 PM
Just went through the whole thread, Very cool build, Car looks great and runs
good too! You an your pop should be proud Congrats.

gottuna
01-05-2017, 03:59 PM
what are the headers are you trying, is there a web site?

Fisher
01-05-2017, 06:42 PM
Thats a very cool build. I had a chance at a 71 hornet, but i passed as the AMC guys would not part with any parts? Seems they are worse than the Mopar guys. lolol Didnt think that was possible.

KyleCim
01-06-2017, 01:17 PM
Nitrous Nova- Thank You, we are having a bunch of fun with this thing.

Tuna- No website, they were made by Jim Landis and use adapter flanges to mate a round 2" tube to the dogleg port. He is planning to make a new design of stepped header with fixed flanges but its on the backburner as he has a bunch of his own cars projects to work on.

Fisher- Thanks, and you are right. I was surprised I was able to pry this 401 core out of the sellers hands when I did. He had 5-6 more wrapped in trash-bags he wouldn't part with!

Thanks,
Kyle

gottuna
01-06-2017, 02:42 PM
could you post a pic of headers? i would appreciate it, i can fabricate, just like to see his idea, if he wouldn't mind sharing it.

KyleCim
01-07-2017, 06:55 AM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/3F0A462E-B925-4198-980F-A7C674A981B2_zpsevxr9od4.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/EB0020D1-F8D7-407A-8F97-42011605E6DA_zpswtxfbfts.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/F84581C1-65D4-40B8-A593-5113F10C1728_zpse2eqcdii.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/4480520B-9422-4234-9505-35E3C6478B78_zps1klfi9vd.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/KyleCim/21C438EC-E0EF-489D-9A74-0655E6A6D9AA_zpskknqeqh2.jpg

Extremely happy with the fitment and how they sit even above the oil pan. I caught my Doug's headers on the driveway and trailer a few times last year, the clearance is a huge help!

Thanks,

Kyle

gottuna
01-07-2017, 08:16 PM
those are sweet as hell, what did they cost? thanks again for sharing.

JoyRide57
01-09-2017, 01:55 AM
what a sweet car you have built, i would say it's the best i've seen in a long time you spared nothing, the welds the cage everything is from what i know about it right on the money. i was in the bracket program few years back at New England Dragway i'd love to watch this car run in 2017. i sold what i had for reason i won't say here. good luck and i hope to meet you someday T K

Hurst390
01-28-2017, 07:49 AM
Here is the mock-up of the new design. Internal #8 tube. Hope to get this rolling soon.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/Hurst390/Hurst390045/PART_1450234901561_IMG_20151215_205101_zpsyre0l7bn .jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/Hurst390/media/Hurst390045/PART_1450234901561_IMG_20151215_205101_zpsyre0l7bn .jpg.html)
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/Hurst390/Hurst390045/PART_1450234876202_IMG_20151215_205250_zpsnheouciu .jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/Hurst390/media/Hurst390045/PART_1450234876202_IMG_20151215_205250_zpsnheouciu .jpg.html)

KyleCim
03-03-2017, 07:22 AM
Thanks for taking the time to do these for us Jim, it's much appreciated. With my center cylinder dilemma we are going to add Vbands on those primary's which will allow us to remove those sections to check or replace plugs. Just need to figure out gasket since silicon will not dry in time of that she being done at the track.

5pointslow
09-14-2017, 12:19 PM
any new pics kyle ?

KyleCim
09-27-2017, 11:38 AM
Nothing yet.........I am hoping soon!

KyleCim
12-27-2017, 09:31 PM
Well guys, almost a year later and it is time for an update.......

We had our first child in March and many sleepless nights led to me deciding to pull the plug on the nitrous road. I was never comfortable with it and it was beginning to get more and more costly and harder to find so I went back to my roots. Sold off all the nitrous stuff and decided to go blow through turbo. Did not want to convert to EFI as that would have required diving into a complete fuel system as well. Spent the majority of the year waiting to get into the fabricator and ordered parts as time went on to move us towards the goal.

So here we are, setup is a Borg Warner S400 80/96 1.32 T6 from [email protected] Forced Inductions, C&S 900cfm dual needle and seat blow through aerosol carb. My Fabricator and good friend (Victor @ Teixeira Fab in Tiverton, RI) who did the rest of the fab work on the car took it back to do the complete turbo system. He had the Header flanges CNC'd to match the AMC dogleg port and used a Street Carr Fab billett T6 collector. I used a Garrett Air/Air 1,000hp core from JMFabrications that I had left over from my DSM and Victor modified that which fit the car well Mixing in TiAL 44mm Wastegates and 50mm blow off valves with a Extreme Velocity carb hat with a 1" Smileys O-ring spacer welded on.

Header coming together-
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4601/38990592452_68b443ba87_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22psYJ1)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/22psYJ1) by Kyle Cimbron (https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4601/24211622067_6698ddf8c1_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CTuTHM)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/CTuTHM) by Kyle Cimbron (https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/), on Flickr

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Car is pretty much wrapped up and will be coming home this week. Then need to pull the motor and get it over to Bob @ Masons Racing Engines to prep it for a compression drop/Piston change, 4 bolt mains and a new cam spec'd out by Bullett. Looking forward to being one of the few/only turbo AMC's out and about in the near future.

Thanks,

Kyle

5pointslow
01-02-2018, 08:41 AM
looks good should have power to get into the 8's now

racestatus
01-02-2018, 09:31 AM
good looking setup!

KyleCim
01-03-2018, 11:41 AM
Thanks Guys.

Fully completed now, got her back home Saturday and now we are taking it apart to get the motor to the machine shop. Not sure how quickly that will turn around but I know he wants to dyno the setup fully dressed with the turbo. Hopefully we can get back out and test this season at some point.

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5pointslow
01-05-2018, 08:36 AM
looks awesome kyle
im not familar with the amc motors , but was wondering how hard can you lean on it before there is issues ? are these 4 bolt mains

Bad ass to be amc powered and turbod

JRogers
01-05-2018, 09:14 AM
Phuck photobucket

KyleCim
01-05-2018, 09:32 PM
looks awesome kyle
im not familar with the amc motors , but was wondering how hard can you lean on it before there is issues ? are these 4 bolt mains

Bad ass to be amc powered and turbod

A few Nitrous guys have seen north of 1,000hp in a factory AMC block with 4 bolt mains. I am told it needs to have a strong attention to detail on assembly and keep detonation out of the tune lol . We will see, It is uncharted territory really and I want to show some people that you can think outside the box and do something different besides copy LS swap builds off the internet.

Factory they are 2 bolt main motors but the 401 blocks have nice thick webbing. Pro-gram makes 4 bolt mains which I was lucky enough to track down a set(they make them in runs so when they are not producing it can be a long wait time to get them again since AMC stuff is less than popular- Thanks to Bob Stuller on the mains) and we will be adding to the motor. I’m going to talk with Bob about what we should do in terms of block fill and or o-ring. I think if we can make 8-900 it will be enough to break cert.

And Yes, Photobucket fucked build threads everywhere Jrogers, there’s no way I could go back and put this thread back together which sucks bigtime.

Thanks,
Kyle

T-BIRDA160
01-06-2018, 08:46 PM
Really a cool build and staying AMC powered makes it even better. Keep us posted on work.

THE STING
01-07-2018, 08:51 AM
Very cool Kyle.

I can't remember what your cert is for your car but it better be for more than 8.50 . :p

KyleCim
01-07-2018, 09:23 PM
Very cool Kyle.

I can't remember what your cert is for your car but it better be for more than 8.50 . :p

It’s just an 8.50 cert lol We did do most of the hard stuff already so converting it later on shouldn’t be too bad.

Thanks,
Kyle

1986iroc
02-13-2018, 10:57 PM
So are you keeping the iron block or putting a indy aluminum one in it?

KyleCim
02-15-2018, 03:02 PM
So are you keeping the iron block or putting a indy aluminum one in it?

Iron block, looking more and more like it will be filled to the water pump holes. I cannot afford an Indy motor build.

Thanks,
Kyle

1986iroc
02-25-2018, 11:59 PM
I believe you will make more HP then any Iron AMC. I hear that 800hp is pushing it, and you should make well north of that. Keep updates coming I like your progress.

Toaster556
02-27-2018, 12:24 AM
Wow, that's a gorgeous Hornet! Makes me want to make my beater Spirit pretty before I try to make it faster. In for updates on the turbo.

A bit offtopic, but there's a photobucket hotlink fix extension available HERE (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/photobucket-hotlink-fix/kegnjbncdcliihbemealioapbifiaedg) on Chrome if you use that browser.

KyleCim
03-06-2018, 05:48 AM
Thanks guys. It will make some jam, I’m going to lean into it slowly though We won’t be able to afford to turn this motor into soup by just letting it all hang out.

Thanks
Kyle

THE STING
03-10-2018, 11:08 AM
I believe you will make more HP then any Iron AMC. I hear that 800hp is pushing it, and you should make well north of that. Keep updates coming I like your progress.

The weaker spots are Kyle's internal parts , Molnar rods/shelf wiseco pistons...if something is going to give it would be those not the block itself....those are nice parts.. i'd think 1000hp with a turbo style hp should be doable.

Don't get me wrong the block and the crank has limits, but 800 ain't it. ;) not even close...that's with proper machine and prep work of course.

KyleCim
03-11-2018, 10:52 AM
The weaker spots are Kyle's internal parts , Molnar rods/shelf wiseco pistons...if something is going to give it would be those not the block itself....those are nice parts.. i'd think 1000hp with a turbo style hp should be doable.

Don't get me wrong the block and the crank has limits, but 800 ain't it. ;) not even close...that's with proper machine and prep work of course.


Agreed, part of the idea going with a smaller (80mm single if you can call it small) for the cubic inch was to keep RPM down to a 6,500 max and keep it a little safer. The Wiseco idea is out the window and it will be getting a set of diamonds but still fit to the molnars and stock crank. I am sure the heads will be a bottleneck as well but I have seen boost push through less than stellar heads and still make power in the past. Time will tell!

THE STING
03-12-2018, 06:21 PM
Agreed, part of the idea going with a smaller (80mm single if you can call it small) for the cubic inch was to keep RPM down to a 6,500 max and keep it a little safer. The Wiseco idea is out the window and it will be getting a set of diamonds but still fit to the molnars and stock crank. I am sure the heads will be a bottleneck as well but I have seen boost push through less than stellar heads and still make power in the past. Time will tell!


Nice switching the pistons...your heads should be fine for what your doing and the rpms you'll be working at...I think the rods should be fine also.

I'm not sure what your doing for oiling but I would like to see a external pump and maybe a vacuum pump..

What fuel are you planning on using..

427f2
03-12-2018, 08:56 PM
[QUOTE=KyleCim;65377505]A few Nitrous guys have seen north of 1,000hp in a factory AMC block with 4 bolt mains. I am told it needs to have a strong attention to detail on assembly and keep detonation out of the tune lol . We will see, It is uncharted territory really and I want to show some people that you can think outside the box and do something different besides copy LS swap builds off the internet.

Factory they are 2 bolt main motors but the 401 blocks have nice thick webbing. Pro-gram makes 4 bolt mains which I was lucky enough to track down a set(they make them in runs so when they are not producing it can be a long wait time to get them again since AMC stuff is less than popular- Thanks to Bob Stuller on the mains) and we will be adding to the motor. I’m going to talk with Bob about what we should do in terms of block fill and or o-ring. I think if we can make 8-900 it will be enough to break cert.

And Yes, Photobucket fucked build threads everywhere Jrogers, there’s no way I could go back and put this thread back together which sucks bigtime.


Kyle I have watched and enjoyed this thread as I had a 72 Hornet for one of my first cars....thank goodness it had the 232 six in it as that outlasted 2 rearends and 3 transmissions as wel as a few clutches lol....

For those that do not know there are some fixes for the photobucket fiasco....I just used this one last weekend and it is great. This is for chrome but there are others if you look around depending on what browser you are using. Hope this helps some
of you guys out for viewing the pics. Mannie

Click on the google link and then click the add extension box in the
upper right corner and you are done. 10 seconds painless.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/photobucket-embedded-imag/ogipgokcopooepeipngiikdkpmcpkaon

KyleCim
03-13-2018, 10:11 AM
Nice switching the pistons...your heads should be fine for what your doing and the rpms you'll be working at...I think the rods should be fine also.

I'm not sure what your doing for oiling but I would like to see a external pump and maybe a vacuum pump..

What fuel are you planning on using..

Likely going to be using C16 I’ve had good luck with it in the past. I do have a vacuum pump going on it but no plans on an external pump at the moment.

1986iroc
03-14-2018, 10:46 PM
If your north of 400 inches on and 80mm (depending who's) you better be at a 1000 without trying hard. My rambler with a 84mm and 328CI LS with K1 rods and Wiseco pistons made over 1000. Also it ran on Pump E-85 and 28psi and 16 degrees of timing. Also in 2016 I had friends say it would make more power on C-16 and lost power, went back to E-85 and car picked back up what we lost. I like your build the reason I mentioned it My another friend has a bottom 7 second Gremlin that runs an Indy block and they told him that 1400 was pushing it. I wish you the best of luck with it, Its a great looking car.

KyleCim
03-15-2018, 04:46 PM
If your north of 400 inches on and 80mm (depending who's) you better be at a 1000 without trying hard. My rambler with a 84mm and 328CI LS with K1 rods and Wiseco pistons made over 1000. Also it ran on Pump E-85 and 28psi and 16 degrees of timing. Also in 2016 I had friends say it would make more power on C-16 and lost power, went back to E-85 and car picked back up what we lost. I like your build the reason I mentioned it My another friend has a bottom 7 second Gremlin that runs an Indy block and they told him that 1400 was pushing it. I wish you the best of luck with it, Its a great looking car.

If anything, this turbo is going to hold the thing back from making much north of 1,000 and is too small but I think it will do it. It is a basic BW S400sx-80ETT from Forced Inductions but not the race cover. I don't expect to be able to get much more than 20-23psi out of it but it will spool well and allow me to keep the RPM lower. Motor is a 406/407 cube after the bore so I expect it to have some backpressure issues even with the 1.32 T6 hotside. I *should* have went E85 but I did not/don't have the funds to change the fuel system over.

Thank you, I am itching badly to get it on the dyno but I don't think the motor has been torn down yet. The waiting game is on. I will keep this updated for sure.

Thanks,
Kyle

amxdreamer
07-15-2018, 03:26 PM
badass Hornet Kyle!

StreetFreaksInc
10-10-2018, 12:45 PM
Love the project! I am working on 2 Gremlins (one is my son's), and always love to see another AMC.

nxcoupe
11-09-2018, 03:16 PM
Man, this is sweet! Always had a soft spot for AMC, my first tech job was at an AMC Jeep Lincoln Mercury dealer. I always wanted a 69 Rambler Scrambler. Any updates?

Flatblack79v2
11-15-2018, 08:04 PM
Very nice build. Just read through the whole thing. Cage turned out really nice and that rattle can paint job looks damn good in the photos!

KyleCim
02-19-2019, 09:20 AM
Thanks guys, Sorry for the delay I just have been really busy still waiting for my motor lol

HOPEFULLY be on the dyno in April.

SuperStockAMX
03-18-2019, 01:19 AM
Thanks guys, Sorry for the delay I just have been really busy still waiting for my motor lol

HOPEFULLY be on the dyno in April.

Kyle, I just read the tread back to page 18. I see you were having problems with the head gaskets and you traced it to head bolts bottomed out? Then I would suggest ARP Head Studs.

On gaskets, I bought SCE Copper “ICS Titan” head gaskets. They have various thickness and bore sizes but I bought .061” thick, 4.250” bore (I have 4.240” cylinders). The copper gasket has the silicon print-o-seal around the water ports and they insert a stainless o-ring inside the bores of the copper gasket. My set should arrive tomorrow. They are $300 per set from Summit or $253 direct from SCE. You can re-use them forever except the silicon seals are a 1 time use. After that, just smear (lightly) copper coat. SCE says install dry but if one insists on a coating, use Hylomar spray which I will be doing.

I used Cometic Head Gaskets previously but I’m not 100% sold that I didn’t’t have slight leakage.

SCE also makes a really good exhaust header gasket for AMC which I will use this time.
I previously ran Permatex “Right Stuff” and no gaskets. They will seal indefinitely, in a perfect install, but I found I was smearing the stuff as I installed the header. You can even reuse them if you smear anti-seize on them.

FYI - A.H. Adkins (NHRA SS/A ’69 AMX 390 wit Cross-Ram) makes over 850 HP (Naturally Aspirated) and goes through the lights over 9,000 RPM on an AMC OEM block.

Good luck with your build!

SuperStockAMX
09-17-2019, 02:15 AM
Thanks guys, Sorry for the delay I just have been really busy still waiting for my motor lol

HOPEFULLY be on the dyno in April.

Ever make it to the dyno? I know how frustrating delays can be!

KyleCim
09-25-2019, 09:04 AM
Ever make it to the dyno? I know how frustrating delays can be!

It is still not ready. Last I heard it was a shortblock, the oil pan was sent to Florida to have a windage tray made and hes fabricating a external oil pump bracket. I just keep sitting tight, I am likely going to be scared shit when its actually done considering I have not raced a car in 3 years :lol: