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Old 12-22-2008, 12:40 AM   #1
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Default Diesel fuel gelling up... even with addatives.... HELP!

I like the idea of Bio-diesel...but, it's crap in the winter. Around Chicago, almost all of the pumps have 10-20% bio in them.

I have noticed a lot of people having problems even when temps are only in the 30's

I've added a ton of the "911" stuff and it helps a little...but, my fuel filter keeps getting gelled and I have to warm it up with a hand torch to get moving again.

Any ideas on what to do? I'm about ready to add a gallon of methanol to try an get this stuff to thin out a bit.
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:57 AM   #2
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I have a kenworth with a fuel heater in the fuel filter. you could put a drysump heater pad or wrap the fuel lines with heat tape and keep the block heater plugged in overnight... some thoughts
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Old 12-22-2008, 01:17 AM   #3
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check out arc heat for heaters
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The reason they all have bio is,they get a tax break from the state.We use bio in all our work trucks because of this.In the winter every other fuel delivery is regular diesel to keep from gelling.You have to go to a regular truck stop to find non bio here.There is a roadranger on roosevelt road selling non bio for 2.52
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I haven't had any trouble with mine gelling up yet this winter but I noticed my MPG went to shit as soon as it got cold out! Maybe a Change of Fuel filters is in order....
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I have a kenworth with a fuel heater in the fuel filter. you could put a drysump heater pad or wrap the fuel lines with heat tape and keep the block heater plugged in overnight... some thoughts

This is happening while I'm driving.... it's really weird.

I'll be driving along for a while, no problem.... then, blaaaaaaaahhhhhh... I run out of power.

Then, it will still idle, sort of, and I heat the fuel filter with a torch for 1-2 mins. then it runs great for a few miles...then... Blaaaahhhhhh... it happens again.


BTW... this is on my 1986 Ford CL9000 semi-tractor. (with 110,000 original miles ) that has a Cummins NT400.

Is there heat wrap or a filter heater that runs on 12 volts?
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Old 12-22-2008, 05:25 AM   #7
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This is happening while I'm driving.... it's really weird.

I'll be driving along for a while, no problem.... then, blaaaaaaaahhhhhh... I run out of power.

Then, it will still idle, sort of, and I heat the fuel filter with a torch for 1-2 mins. then it runs great for a few miles...then... Blaaaahhhhhh... it happens again.


BTW... this is on my 1986 Ford CL9000 semi-tractor. (with 110,000 original miles ) that has a Cummins NT400.

Is there heat wrap or a filter heater that runs on 12 volts?
I own a kenworth as well & my semi jelled up a week ago in MN and we put it in the shop to sit 15 hrs before it would fire up. If I was you I would just NOT put that in my trk untill spring comes. Go out of your way to find a trk stop with the good fuel. I know there is two trk stops on I-80-94 at the IN-IL line!
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if you are gonna use the crap bio fuel get some in tank artic fox heaters they work off you coolant lines i have em on my peterbilt both tanks btw but you can also cut the bio shit with #1 diesel
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im in my driveway right now jelled up. started the truck, idled for a minute,stalled, ran out of fuel. changed the 2 filters but it wont stay running, tanks are slushy, put some additive in. any other ideas to get this thing going, never had one this bad before and aint makin no money sittin here at home again. btw its a semi truck im dealing with.
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Old 12-22-2008, 07:07 AM   #10
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Couldn't you just add some kerosene to the tank and thin it out ? That's what we did to a friends diesel Olds a long time ago.
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going to by some more powerservice and a torpedo heater... winter sucks
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I noticed my MPG went to shit as soon as it got cold out!
Heard that!!! I must of lost 2 mpg in town....dont know what the phock they changed but it sucks. I know this much Speedway fuel sucks all year, I am at least 1-2 mpg worse on thier junk all the time. There is a Marathon on the corner of Boughton and 53 in Bolingbrook that always has the good shyt...my Duramax gets the best mileage on it.
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going to by some more powerservice and a torpedo heater... winter sucks
Couldn't you just put your bare ass on the fuel tank?
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run RED, all I got to say
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run RED, all I got to say

It's a couple thousand (around here) if you get caught,,but ya gotta do something to keep it running.

Stay away from the deep fryer fuels,,it'll only cost ya money in the long run.

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