2009 NHRA safety rules... You guys seen this?

bbc 96 stang · 12-06-2008, 02:17 AM

im kinda shocked at the new firesuit ruling deal just another bull shit thing to spend all sorts of money on... 3-2a 15 for a door car under 7.49 ??? WTF???

I just wanted to take a moment to update all PSCA racers on notable changes for the 2009 NHRA Rule Book. Some of these are just reminders.

Neck collar meeting SFI Spec 3.3 mandatory in all cars running 9.99 or quicker or cars exceeding 135 mph. A head and neck restraint device/system may be used in lieu of a neck collar.

An SFI-approved head and neck restaint device/system is mandatory for any vehicle running 200 mph or faster.

If SFI Spec 3.3 neck collar is required and driver opts to use head and neck restraint device/system instead or head and neck restraint/device system is mandatory, then SFI Spec 3.3 head sock or SFI Spec 3.3 skirted helmet mandatory.

This one is very important. Make sure when you purchase a head sock or helmet skirt it is SFI 3.3 approved. These items are very inexpensive and the helmet skirts can be attached to any exisiting helmet.

For all 9.99 and quicker closed-bodied cars, a full-face Snell M2000, M2005, K2005, SA2000, SA2005, SFI 31.2A, or 41.2A helmet mandatory; shield premitted.

For all 7.49 and quicker closed-bodies cars, a full-face Snell M2000, M2005, K2005, SA2000, SA2005, SFI 31.2A, or 41.2A helmet mandatory; shield mandatory.

This year we are making all cars 7.49 and quicker wear shields on the helmet regardless of open or closed bodied.

Beginning Jan 1, 2010 all drivers of this class (7.49 and quicker) will be required to wear a jacket and pants or suit meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/15, except front-engine, supercharged or turbocharged open-bodied cars, which will continue to be required to wear a jacket and pants or suit meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/20.

I would recommend that racers start to aquire these suits because most of them are custom and there will be a waiting period to get them. Jegs is now selling an off the shelf 15 jacket and pants. I believe for the jacket and pants it cost like $1200.

Nothing has changed for oil-retention devices for next year. They are still required on all cars 7.49 or quicker. In lieu of a diaper you are allowed to run a belly pan. It has to extend from framrail to framrail and extend forward of the balancer and rearward to the rear engine plate and must incorporate a minimum 2 inch high wall on all sides. A non-flammable, oil absorbent liner mandatory inside of device.

Remember the racetracks and Mel can make these devices mandatory in other classes and or a ET break so be prepared. I have a listed the link to the NHRA website for the NHRA accepted manufactures of engine diapers.

Rember to check all your SFI certs and make sure they are in date. In the back of the NHRA rule book we have a listing of all the SFI Specs and their respective expiration periods. Also you can go on SFI's website to get the specs list on expiration periods. Also on their website they have manufacturers listing by spec with links and phone numbers. So if you need to find a company that makes a 3.3 skirt or head sock you can there and find a whole listing.

I wish everybody a safe 2009 racing season and if you have any questions do not hesitate to call me at the office.

Jake Hairston
NHRA Tech
Office 626-250-2436
Cell 626-253-5226

http://www.sfifoundation.com/

Dom87SS · 12-06-2008, 02:21 AM

its safety stuff so its hard to complain about

mideastbusa · 12-06-2008, 02:47 AM

What he ^^^^^ said.No complaints from me.

nohook · 12-06-2008, 05:25 AM

NHRA had a bad year we need spend mo' $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

NASTYCAMARO · 12-06-2008, 07:07 AM

Yea its true

badss540 · 12-06-2008, 08:11 AM

I dont complain about the Safety stuff, just the Time of experation.
Our belts expire in 2 years when the same belt is good for 8 in an F18-A.Why, we all know why-the NHRA does it to support the manufactures that support them and keep the monies FLOWING to those manufactures...

sadiemae · 12-06-2008, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbc 96 stang

im kinda shocked at the new firesuit ruling deal just another bull shit thing to spend all sorts of money on... 3-2a 15 for a door car under 7.49 ??? WTF???

This year we are making all cars 7.49 and quicker wear shields on the helmet regardless of open or closed bodied.

When my car was being built, I was told I had to wear 3-2a 15 not by any sanctioning body but by my husband and chassis builder. I didn't like the idea, thought it was overkill, uncomfortable, expensive and I felt ridiculous being the only one in the lanes all bundled up like the kid in "A Christmas Story".
However, fire scares me!!! $800-1200 ain't shit if you're putting a price tag on your safety!!!
And as it turns out, the hardest thing for me to get used to was driving with my visor down.

Aggressive Therapy · 12-06-2008, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badss540

I dont complain about the Safety stuff, just the Time of experation.
Our belts expire in 2 years when the same belt is good for 8 in an F18-A.Why, we all know why-the NHRA does it to support the manufactures that support them and keep the monies FLOWING to those manufactures...

It's still bullshit on the belts. The only positive out of that for me is that all of my mud racing and off road truck buddies are getting into quality belts now that I am drag racing. I give them my expired belts, and they buy the other racers belts at 1/2 price.

86whitefox · 12-06-2008, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badss540

I dont complain about the Safety stuff, just the Time of experation.
Our belts expire in 2 years when the same belt is good for 8 in an F18-A.Why, we all know why-the NHRA does it to support the manufactures that support them and keep the monies FLOWING to those manufactures...

think before you speek, i'm quite sure if you crash an f18 that it really don't matter if you are useing belts or not!

dave89iroc · 12-06-2008, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86whitefox

think before you speek, i'm quite sure if you crash an f18 that it really don't matter if you are useing belts or not!

think about that, if you eject from a F/A-18, you may be hanging from those belts a few miles up...............

ozone eater · 12-06-2008, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave89iroc

think about that, if you eject from a F/A-18, you may be hanging from those belts a few miles up...............

and also how many times are those planes inverted for minutes and minutes during just one operation? the seat belts are a nhra scam. i dont imagine the nascar guys have their belts rechecked after every race which is more time in the car than a drag racer all year. fuck the nhra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

redvictor · 12-06-2008, 03:58 PM

3.2A/15 suits in over 100deg heat.You'll all be cooking like turkeys...lol
obviously race suits sales and HANS device sales are at a low. A suit that is good now becomes no good in 2010 because????

Paul Huizenga · 12-06-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ozone eater

and also how many times are those planes inverted for minutes and minutes during just one operation? the seat belts are a nhra scam. i dont imagine the nascar guys have their belts rechecked after every race which is more time in the car than a drag racer all year. fuck the nhra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Having actually talked to the SFI guys, I can tell you that things like expiration dates are based on input from racers and manufacturers as well as the sanctions. I don't know for sure what the exact thought process was behind the two-year belt inspection requirement was, but I'm willing to bet that it's so short because belts get the shit beat out of them - running over the edge of the seat when they're loose, getting oil and grease on them, and so on. Yah, belts for an F18 might have a longer expiration date, but you can be damn sure that the plane's crew inspects them a lot more often and a lot better than the average racer does. I would even bet that if I took a sharpie and wrote "eat a dick" on the underside of your anti-sub belt, you wouldn't notice it until the belt went out of date and you had to take it out of the car...

ssomustang50 · 12-06-2008, 06:04 PM

"An SFI-approved head and neck restaint device/system is mandatory for any vehicle running 200 mph or faster."

what 1's are approved & how much do they cost? Any part #'s?

badss540 · 12-06-2008, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86whitefox

think before you speek, i'm quite sure if you crash an f18 that it really don't matter if you are useing belts or not!

YOU need to think- I'm quite sure that the Air Force would change the belts if there were anything wrong with them, BUT there is NOT, no fraying, no strength loss,the webbing dose not deteriorate in 8 years or less(or in 12years).

Before you shoot your mouth off -study or know something Schmuck!

Just ask how i know if you like. (Traveled faster then the speed of sound)

12-06-2008, 02:17 AM	#1
bbc 96 stang Phuckstick Smoked another BBC Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: So CaL... Posts: 1,128	2009 NHRA safety rules... You guys seen this? im kinda shocked at the new firesuit ruling deal just another bull shit thing to spend all sorts of money on... 3-2a 15 for a door car under 7.49 ??? WTF??? I just wanted to take a moment to update all PSCA racers on notable changes for the 2009 NHRA Rule Book. Some of these are just reminders. Neck collar meeting SFI Spec 3.3 mandatory in all cars running 9.99 or quicker or cars exceeding 135 mph. A head and neck restraint device/system may be used in lieu of a neck collar. An SFI-approved head and neck restaint device/system is mandatory for any vehicle running 200 mph or faster. If SFI Spec 3.3 neck collar is required and driver opts to use head and neck restraint device/system instead or head and neck restraint/device system is mandatory, then SFI Spec 3.3 head sock or SFI Spec 3.3 skirted helmet mandatory. This one is very important. Make sure when you purchase a head sock or helmet skirt it is SFI 3.3 approved. These items are very inexpensive and the helmet skirts can be attached to any exisiting helmet. For all 9.99 and quicker closed-bodied cars, a full-face Snell M2000, M2005, K2005, SA2000, SA2005, SFI 31.2A, or 41.2A helmet mandatory; shield premitted. For all 7.49 and quicker closed-bodies cars, a full-face Snell M2000, M2005, K2005, SA2000, SA2005, SFI 31.2A, or 41.2A helmet mandatory; shield mandatory. This year we are making all cars 7.49 and quicker wear shields on the helmet regardless of open or closed bodied. Beginning Jan 1, 2010 all drivers of this class (7.49 and quicker) will be required to wear a jacket and pants or suit meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/15, except front-engine, supercharged or turbocharged open-bodied cars, which will continue to be required to wear a jacket and pants or suit meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/20. I would recommend that racers start to aquire these suits because most of them are custom and there will be a waiting period to get them. Jegs is now selling an off the shelf 15 jacket and pants. I believe for the jacket and pants it cost like $1200. Nothing has changed for oil-retention devices for next year. They are still required on all cars 7.49 or quicker. In lieu of a diaper you are allowed to run a belly pan. It has to extend from framrail to framrail and extend forward of the balancer and rearward to the rear engine plate and must incorporate a minimum 2 inch high wall on all sides. A non-flammable, oil absorbent liner mandatory inside of device. Remember the racetracks and Mel can make these devices mandatory in other classes and or a ET break so be prepared. I have a listed the link to the NHRA website for the NHRA accepted manufactures of engine diapers. Rember to check all your SFI certs and make sure they are in date. In the back of the NHRA rule book we have a listing of all the SFI Specs and their respective expiration periods. Also you can go on SFI's website to get the specs list on expiration periods. Also on their website they have manufacturers listing by spec with links and phone numbers. So if you need to find a company that makes a 3.3 skirt or head sock you can there and find a whole listing. I wish everybody a safe 2009 racing season and if you have any questions do not hesitate to call me at the office. Jake Hairston NHRA Tech Office 626-250-2436 Cell 626-253-5226 http://www.sfifoundation.com/

12-06-2008, 02:21 AM	#2
Dom87SS Senior Member Smoked Another SBC Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lake Villa, IL Posts: 4,002	its safety stuff so its hard to complain about __________________ 1987 Monte Carlo SS - 1998 GTP http://dom87ss.smugmug.com - Check out my Photo Galleries www .tntracingengines.com - Complete Machine shop and Dyno services www.truestreetracing.com- Best racing in the Midwest

12-06-2008, 02:47 AM	#3
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12-06-2008, 05:25 AM	#4
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12-06-2008, 08:11 AM	#6
badss540 Senior Member Smoked another BBC Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: California Posts: 2,637	I dont complain about the Safety stuff, just the Time of experation. Our belts expire in 2 years when the same belt is good for 8 in an F18-A.Why, we all know why-the NHRA does it to support the manufactures that support them and keep the monies FLOWING to those manufactures... __________________

12-06-2008, 07:07 AM	#5
NASTYCAMARO Senior Member Smoked another BBC Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SOUTH FLORIDA Posts: 2,526	Yea its true

12-06-2008, 03:58 PM	#12
redvictor Senior Member Smoked Another SBC Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wolverhampton,England Posts: 4,709	3.2A/15 suits in over 100deg heat.You'll all be cooking like turkeys...lol obviously race suits sales and HANS device sales are at a low. A suit that is good now becomes no good in 2010 because???? __________________ world's fastest radial pump gas car 7.67 and 190.4mph on 93 Shell V power and 315 MT drag radials.... 7.41 and 197.6 on VP Q16 and MT ET streets. Turning it into a street legal turbo pro mod for 2011. A huge thanks to my US sponsors: Mickey Thompson tires, Neal Chance racing converters, RFD,Total Seal, VP fuels, DEI, Injector Dynamics, Fast Motorsports,VFN fibreglass, Turbowerx and Wilson manifolds. Andy Frost race transmissions. www.redvictor1racing.co.uk Last edited by redvictor; 12-06-2008 at 04:00 PM.

12-06-2008, 06:04 PM	#14
ssomustang50 Member Pullin gears Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 599	"An SFI-approved head and neck restaint device/system is mandatory for any vehicle running 200 mph or faster." what 1's are approved & how much do they cost? Any part #'s?

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