The 5000.00 dollar DSM vs Mustang Challenge - Page 7

8urls1 · 07-18-2008, 04:49 PM

The problem we have here is these import guys think having NO interior panels and hole saw holes everywhere with one seat is perfectly normal..

they also think hat if the build a custome one off part that would cost someon 1500 bucks it doesnt cost them anything since they built it..

if you wana go like that i can take 5 k and run mid-low 9s 500 for a turbo build the rest of the kit myself from 200 bucks in tubing and a 175 dollar ebay intercooler 700 for a used boss block put a stock crank with eagle I beam rod in it and a set of 700 dollar ebay aluminum heads ported by myself with stock forged pistons that cost me nothing a c-4 built for 500 bucks in parts with a 350 dollar converter a throttle body a fuel system injectors and a mega squirt and i gaurentee you i could go in the low nines all day with 5 grand and a guted out car.

LTLHOMER · 07-18-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboAWD

Talons have been 10's w/ stock exhaust manifolds + turbo's.

Research before talking shit.

That's fine. I didn't say they could or couldn't do anything of the sort. I just said you can't pretend that any average Joe can get a professional to work a bunch of hours for free.

Talons also break every other pass so is it best 3 outta 5 or what?

looking4vr · 07-18-2008, 04:50 PM

This is making my head hurt to read...

Most would consider me one sided for the import side but I gotta say, my $'s on the mustang.

O/P - Just some creative criticism here, you need to get the facts together about rules, time frame, exposure, and most importantly, venue together before anyone takes this seriously. Also note most alot of the serious Mustang guys are out at Superbowl right now so your pretty much voicing this to the west coast guys right now I'd think.
Also, there have indeed been multiple guys from the mustang camp step up to the plate but you keep waving them off? Why does it have to be a "shop" that builds the car. I personally would love to see a garage built car come out and play.

I think what you are doing is a noble effort but on the surface it seems a bit one sided. Good luck with this, I'd love to see it happen.

8urls1 · 07-18-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboAWD

Talons have been 10's w/ stock exhaust manifolds + turbo's.

Research before talking shit.

The stang has a uphill battle my friends..

and enough holes sawed in it to qualify it as swiss cheese.

TurboAWD · 07-18-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by looking4vr

This is making my head hurt to read...

Most would consider me one sided for the import side but I gotta say, my $'s on the mustang.

O/P - Just some creative criticism here, you need to get the facts together about rules, time frame, exposure, and most importantly, venue together before anyone takes this seriously. Also note most alot of the serious Mustang guys are out at Superbowl right now so your pretty much voicing this to the west coast guys right now I'd think.
Also, there have indeed been multiple guys from the mustang camp step up to the plate but you keep waving them off? Why does it have to be a "shop" that builds the car. I personally would love to see a garage built car come out and play.

I think what you are doing is a noble effort but on the surface it seems a bit one sided. Good luck with this, I'd love to see it happen.

I would like to see a big Ford shop, otherwise the DSM will just get bad mouthed for being pro VS rookie. It HAS to be fair.

LTLHOMER · 07-18-2008, 04:53 PM

Here's the last time I raced a DSM:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...at-t_53221.htm

It didn't work out too good for him though. But at least he didn't break. lol that's a successful pass in a DSM.

qwiknotch · 07-18-2008, 04:55 PM

so you get to start with the top of the line DSM and we have to run a base line 5.0?? hahahaha

TurboAWD · 07-18-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LTLHOMER

Here's the last time I raced a DSM:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...at-t_53221.htm

It didn't work out too good for him though. But at least he didn't break. lol that's a successful pass in a DSM.

And here is Shearers car

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LiSptlw-L_U

(stock block,head,rockers,shifter etc)

LTLHOMER · 07-18-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboAWD

And here is Shearers car

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LiSptlw-L_U

(stock block,head,rockers, etc)

Unfortunately for the other guy he was in a DSM that is like the other 99.9%. 7.70's is fast for a 3400 lb car on drag radials with stock-suspension though. Wait what does that guy have again?

TurboAWD · 07-18-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by qwiknotch

so you get to start with the top of the line DSM and we have to run a base line 5.0?? hahahaha

OK, start with a porky GT..

8urls1 · 07-18-2008, 05:00 PM

Here is a mustang with about 3800-4000 bucks in the motor + a nitrous kit and gears and exhaust This is how you go fast on a budget..
I know this car it has a STOCK drive line in it for this pass stock trany with stock t-5 with shifter with stock rear end with 4.10 i believe
reliable ? nope they put probly 4 tranys in it over a 5 month period but fast none the less.
later on they went to a g-froce t-5.

but again it can be done as you can see here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezhzRNCY_Bo

TurboAWD · 07-18-2008, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTLHOMER

Unfortunately for the other guy he was in a DSM that is like the other 99.9%. 7.70's is fast for a 3400 lb car on drag radials with stock-suspension though. Wait what does that guy have again?

He (had) a 2.0L w/ a H-pattern stock 5-speed. You could never achieve what those guys did..so dont even start

TurboAWD · 07-18-2008, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8urls1

Here is a mustang with about 3800-4000 bucks in the motor + a nitrous kit and gears and exhaust This is how you go fast on a budget..
I know this car it has a STOCK drive line in it for this pass stock trany with stock t-5 with shifter with stock rear end with 4.10s
reliable ? nope they put probly 4 tranys in it over a 5 month period but fast none the less.
later on they went to a g-froce t-5.

but again it can be done as you can see here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezhzRNCY_Bo

Enough with the videos..who is going to step up? Right now it looks like a bunch a pussies

LTLHOMER · 07-18-2008, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboAWD

He (had) a 2.0L w/ a H-pattern stock 5-speed. You could never achieve what those guys did..so dont even start

I could never achieve it because I would never try. If I wanted to spend a ton more money to test and tune so I could be an internet hero then maybe that's the route I would go. I've got some other things going on though so I'll have to pass on that and just work on my slow Camaro.

Speaking of achievements, what have you ever done related to racing? Besides typing about it of course...

8urls1 · 07-18-2008, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTLHOMER

Unfortunately for the other guy he was in a DSM that is like the other 99.9%. 7.70's is fast for a 3400 lb car on drag radials with stock-suspension though. Wait what does that guy have again?

3400 pounds ? cold day in hell try 2400 pouonds.

07-18-2008, 04:53 PM	#96
LTLHOMER Senior Member Smoked another BBC Join Date: May 2005 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 3,293	Here's the last time I raced a DSM: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...at-t_53221.htm It didn't work out too good for him though. But at least he didn't break. lol that's a successful pass in a DSM. __________________ '00 z28 Bone stock Laydown Racing

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qwiknotch ProStock Jackstand Winner Smoked Another SBC Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Granada Hills, Ca Posts: 17,714	so you get to start with the top of the line DSM and we have to run a base line 5.0?? hahahaha __________________ Damon Rivetti - Hollywood Teamster, Local 399 Special thanks to:

07-18-2008, 05:00 PM	#101
8urls1 Junior Member Launchin Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 485	k just a clue for you. Here is a mustang with about 3800-4000 bucks in the motor + a nitrous kit and gears and exhaust This is how you go fast on a budget.. I know this car it has a STOCK drive line in it for this pass stock trany with stock t-5 with shifter with stock rear end with 4.10 i believe reliable ? nope they put probly 4 tranys in it over a 5 month period but fast none the less. later on they went to a g-froce t-5. but again it can be done as you can see here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezhzRNCY_Bo

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07-18-2008, 04:49 PM	#91
8urls1 Junior Member Launchin Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 485	The problem we have here is these import guys think having NO interior panels and hole saw holes everywhere with one seat is perfectly normal.. they also think hat if the build a custome one off part that would cost someon 1500 bucks it doesnt cost them anything since they built it.. if you wana go like that i can take 5 k and run mid-low 9s 500 for a turbo build the rest of the kit myself from 200 bucks in tubing and a 175 dollar ebay intercooler 700 for a used boss block put a stock crank with eagle I beam rod in it and a set of 700 dollar ebay aluminum heads ported by myself with stock forged pistons that cost me nothing a c-4 built for 500 bucks in parts with a 350 dollar converter a throttle body a fuel system injectors and a mega squirt and i gaurentee you i could go in the low nines all day with 5 grand and a guted out car.

07-18-2008, 04:50 PM	#93
looking4vr Senior Member Smoked another BBC Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Calvert County MD Posts: 1,216	This is making my head hurt to read... Most would consider me one sided for the import side but I gotta say, my $'s on the mustang. O/P - Just some creative criticism here, you need to get the facts together about rules, time frame, exposure, and most importantly, venue together before anyone takes this seriously. Also note most alot of the serious Mustang guys are out at Superbowl right now so your pretty much voicing this to the west coast guys right now I'd think. Also, there have indeed been multiple guys from the mustang camp step up to the plate but you keep waving them off? Why does it have to be a "shop" that builds the car. I personally would love to see a garage built car come out and play. I think what you are doing is a noble effort but on the surface it seems a bit one sided. Good luck with this, I'd love to see it happen.