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Old 05-24-2012, 12:06 AM   #1
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Default Only 1 in 3.5 businesses actually have a Payroll

http://www.census.gov/econ/smallbus.html

Business creates jobs. What about the businesses that don't create jobs?
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Business creates jobs. What about the businesses that don't create jobs?

they mow lawns and clean a house, got it?
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Love your liberal-spin on the statistics.

You forgot to mention that those businesses that DON'T have a payroll, only account for 3.2% of the Sales/Revenue.
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By the way, genius, just because a business doesn't have a payroll doesn't mean they don't employ people and "create jobs". Get on wikipedia and read up on sub contracting.
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By the way, genius, just because a business doesn't have a payroll doesn't mean they don't employ people and "create jobs". Get on wikipedia and read up on sub contracting.
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Default Re: Only 1 in 3.5 businesses actually have a Payroll

Gee... look where it says "Paid Employees" in the second chart there. Looks like every one of them, with or without "payroll" is paying employees. All 120,903,551 of them.

There's also over 6 MILLION small businesses that have payroll.

And just so you know, not having "payroll" doesn't mean they're not paying payroll taxes. Our company doesn't have "payroll," but we still have to pay all the same taxes... including Unemployment insurance... even though as the owner of the company I have to pay it for myself but can not collect if the company goes under.

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Would be much easier to "create jobs" if the Gov didn't make it so fucking expensive to have employees. Their hourly rate is the easy part. It's the bullshit after that that makes it unworth the squeeze.
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Gee... look where it says "Paid Employees" in the second chart there. Looks like every one of them, with or without "payroll" is paying employees. All 120,903,551 of them.

There's also over 6 MILLION small businesses that have payroll.

And just so you know, not having "payroll" doesn't mean they're not paying payroll taxes. Our company doesn't have "payroll," but we still have to pay all the same taxes... including Unemployment insurance... even though as the owner of the company I have to pay it for myself but can not collect if the company goes under.

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And just so you know, not having "payroll" doesn't mean they're not paying payroll taxes. Our company doesn't have "payroll," but we still have to pay all the same taxes... including Unemployment insurance... even though as the owner of the company I have to pay it for myself but can not collect if the company goes under.

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Love your liberal-spin on the statistics.

You forgot to mention that those businesses that DON'T have a payroll, only account for 3.2% of the Sales/Revenue.
You think maybe that the reason for the post may have something to do with this statistic?

Love how people get Liberal Spin out of a statistic.

I posted the facts.

1 IN 3.5 BUSINESSES HAVE A PAYROLL!

If you think that's liberal then I guess that's ok since you're are a prejudice wanna be.

Owners should exempt out of the UI insurance.
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Default Re: Only 1 in 3.5 businesses actually have a Payroll

And when the economy recovers - many more of them WILL have payroll.

I wonder how many "non-businesses" are going to be hiring employees and providing jobs?

My guess would be NONE.
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Default Re: Only 1 in 3.5 businesses actually have a Payroll

I was actually trying to tie the other thread on pass-through taxation to this thread.

I'm merely breaking down the issue for discussion.


I believe in free speech so you can call me a "fool" or whatever. Just realize that "fool" is a subjective word and more often represents its user.
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By the way, genius, just because a business doesn't have a payroll doesn't mean they don't employ people and "create jobs". Get on wikipedia and read up on sub contracting.
Yeah, "sub contractor" or for your weak mind............."Business entity with another ETIN"

ANOTHER BUSINESS FOR SHORT?


All reflected in the statistics.
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So how many non-businesses are going to be adding jobs and hiring people?
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Yeah, "sub contractor" or for your weak mind............."Business entity with another ETIN"

ANOTHER BUSINESS FOR SHORT?


All reflected in the statistics.
You don't need a tax number to be sub-contracted. We have one guy that's done about 100k in work for us in the past 6 months, and he uses his name and SSN on the w9...Nothing special.

I'm assuming you're trying to say the businesses without payrolls are just greedy people operating the corp for some reason or another?

That's usually what liberals cry about when they start bashing the 'job creator' term.
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