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Old 02-25-2012, 02:52 PM   #46
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And yet it was the Obama Administration who stuck their nose in and told the religious conservatives that they must go against their teachings and provide birth control.
Yeah... it's always that whacky right wing sticking their nose in other people's business and ignoring the Constitution.
Except when it's not.
And then you all run blindly over the cliff when the news media changes the message to suit the Democrat establishment.

What a bunch of sheep.

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I swear some people are thick in the head. I've never agreed with the MSM or Democrat mantra. The lefts little stunt with birth control is as hideously wrong as the rights attempt to control what someone does with their body. It is NOT a function of gov't to mandate or legislate what a person does with their body. Quit looking at left and right, we should be telling the gov't to back off period and get out of peoples personal lives.
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Old 02-25-2012, 03:22 PM   #47
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Those are women? ....yick.
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Old 02-25-2012, 03:33 PM   #48
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Why should the church provide abortions , contraceptives because the BAMMER dictates this ? FUBO FDNC
You nailed that one.
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Old 02-25-2012, 03:42 PM   #49
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Neocunts are nothing but a bunch of fetus worshippers....it's not the war on the unborn it's war on women, if you don't want an abortion then don't get one, keep your big theocratic facist big govt. the hell out of my way, I always knew you were a liberal....
Yeah... they made the EXACT same argument about slaves, too... the Supreme Court ruled continually that blacks weren't equal to us, they only counted as 2/3 of a person by law of the Federal Government for purposes of census counts.
And one of the strongest arguments made by the pro-slavery side was "If you don't like slavery, don't own one."

It's got nothing to do with theocracy now, any more than it did back then.
You can't explain your point on how it's a war on women, in a logical manner... all you can do is argue based on emotion and hyperbole.

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Old 02-25-2012, 03:59 PM   #50
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Yeah... they made the EXACT same argument about slaves, too... the Supreme Court ruled continually that blacks weren't equal to us, they only counted as 2/3 of a person by law of the Federal Government for purposes of census counts.
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That had to do with taxation, not census.

(Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.)
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:02 PM   #51
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Quit looking at left and right, we should be telling the gov't to back off period and get out of peoples personal lives.
There it is, folks...

I've never put stock in a candidate's position on abortion, their faith, or even hotbed issues such as gay marriage. I won't be having an abortion, my faith is what it is and no one but me has the ability to modify it, and I'm not gay. But what does affect me...affects all of us...is the $15T debt load America is bearing, 8-something percent unemployment which effectively is probably twice that, seeing the US continually wind up on the losing end of every deal we've ever made with other countries in the last 20 years, China owning a trillion $$ of our debt and half our manufacturing, unrest in the Middle East, drug use and related violence, an education system that's falling apart and our almost complete lack of a comprehensive energy policy.

I want a President and a Government who will at least make an effort to do something about THAT.
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:03 PM   #52
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There it is, folks...

I've never put stock in a candidate's position on abortion, their faith, or even hotbed issues such as gay marriage. I won't be having an abortion, my faith is what it is and no one but me has the ability to modify it, and I'm not gay. But what does affect me...affects all of us...is the $15T debt load America is bearing, 8-something percent unemployment which effectively is probably twice that, seeing the US continually wind up on the losing end of every deal we've ever made with other countries in the last 20 years, China owning a trillion $$ of our debt and half our manufacturing, unrest in the Middle East, drug use and related violence, an education system that's falling apart and our almost complete lack of a comprehensive energy policy.

I want a President and a Government who will at least make an effort to do something about THAT.


ME TOO!


Where are we moving to?..
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ME TOO! Where are we moving to?..
I was thinking Torrance, CA but it sounds like that's out...
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I keep waiting for Texas to secede......
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:11 PM   #55
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There it is, folks...

I've never put stock in a candidate's position on abortion, their faith, or even hotbed issues such as gay marriage. I won't be having an abortion, my faith is what it is and no one but me has the ability to modify it, and I'm not gay. But what does affect me...affects all of us...is the $15T debt load America is bearing, 8-something percent unemployment which effectively is probably twice that, seeing the US continually wind up on the losing end of every deal we've ever made with other countries in the last 20 years, China owning a trillion $$ of our debt and half our manufacturing, unrest in the Middle East, drug use and related violence, an education system that's falling apart and our almost complete lack of a comprehensive energy policy.

I want a President and a Government who will at least make an effort to do something about THAT.
Politicians have been aping about a "comprehensive energy policy" since Nixon. And there will never be one. Because like healthcare it is a means of controlling the people. A means of securing political power.
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:39 PM   #56
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That had to do with taxation, not census.

(Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.)
It also had to do with the number of representatives from each state.
http://www.census.gov/population/app...t/history.html

Apportionment of the U.S. House of Representatives


Introduction

The primary reason for the establishment of the decennial census of population is set forth in Article 1, Section 2, of the Constitution. The Constitution provides for an enumeration of the population to serve as the basis for the apportionment of members of the U.S. House of Representatives among the states, with the provision that each state must have at least one representative. From 1790 to the present, an apportionment has been made on the basis of each census, except following the census of 1920.
Calculation of a Congressional apportionment requires three factors--the apportionment population of each state, the number of representatives to be allocated among the states, and a method to use for the calculation.

Apportionment Population

The apportionment population base always has included those persons who have established a residence in the United States. The first Census Act of 1790 established the concept of "usual residence" which has been applied in that and each subsequent census. "Usual residence" is the place where the person lives and sleeps most of the time (most of the week, month, or year). Prior to 1870, the population base included the total free population of the states, three-fifths of the number of slaves, and excluded American Indians not taxed.
The 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, removed the fractional count of the number of slaves from the procedure.
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I keep waiting for Texas to secede......

That makes a bunch of us......
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