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Old 02-22-2012, 04:56 PM   #1
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Default Oil turned into jelly.. anyone seen this before?

I'm running e-85 in a sbc and was doing a tare down after having the engine together for 3 years. No oil would come out of the pan. When I flipped it over on the stand after having the intake and heads off, goo started to come out. I pulled the pan and had jelly like goo everywhere. I've been running Brad Penn 10-30. Has anyone else seen this with BP oil before? (or others?)
I'm looking for an oil that will not do this with e-85.
The oil had about 200 miles on it then sat for 3 months before the tare down.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:15 PM   #2
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I've ran e-85 for about a yr now and have never drained oil out of my car that looks like what your describing. Even after setting 3 mo. Just changed it before the last race after setting that long and it looked pretty much like the day I put it in (maybe a little darker)but looked like oil and not jelly! By the way if you haven't hit the newbie thread ya might want to go there and introduce yourself before all hell breaks loose. I run valvoline race 20-50.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:17 PM   #3
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The pic would be helpful. Moisture is my first guess, but I'd love to see it. What color is the goo?
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Is it black and more like tar? I'm really just curious now since jelly has me wondering if it's the normal broken-down oil?
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:29 PM   #5
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Moisture....how hot do you get the motor while running E85?
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tare down?
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:30 PM   #7
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Default Re: Oil turned into jelly.. anyone seen this before?

I'm guessing you had a shit ton of water in your oil? Or alot of fuel?


I've allways ran Brad Penn 10W30 with alky and never had anything like that. Oil might smell like my fragrance additive or like alky but never any goo.

Come to think of it I had a cylinder filling up with water ( pin hole in cylinder wall ) and never had any goo build up. The Brad Penn oil wouldn't mix with it. Pull the drain plug and nothing but water until it was all gone, then oil would drain.



Maybe your E-85 mixes up with the Brad Penn?
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:31 PM   #8
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Is it black and more like tar? I'm really just curious now since jelly has me wondering if it's the normal broken-down oil?
It looked just like green jelly... crazy huh...
I've never seen oil do this before.
And yes I do need to hit up the newbie thread before it's too late.
What's the best way to post a pic?
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:51 PM   #9
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Ive seen what your describing but not anything in an engine.

Unkept, and too hot of bearings on oil bath style bearings would do this on larger trailers.

Reminded me a jello shot sitting in my hand that when i squeezed it would go threw the cracks of my hands
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I've seen it happen on a diesel heavy truck engine when the oil is not changed often enough but it can happen to any high compression engine . The fuel blow-by from the rings causes fuel to mix with the oil and "coke up" and it creates an oil that looks almost like asphalt.


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Would run around 180deg water temp..
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if in fact it is from fuel or water in the oil i would strongly recommend you check ALL bearings in that motor. im surprised it didnt start knocking before it gelled up
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OMG....I thought I was the only one seeing green JELLY in the oil pan with the BP oil! I had an oil pump quit working on me while the engine was running last year....cleaned out the pan after replacing the pump thinking it was bad and there was a 1/4" thick layer of green jelly in the bottom. Tore pump apart and didn't find anything wrong with it. I think the layer of goo kept the pump from pumping. Never seen that before this last year and been running BP oil for 2-3 yrs now. I run Q16 fuel. Its either the fuel / oil mix or most likely condensation in the oil causing it. Been thinking about calling Brad Penn about it....or sending a sample off to have analyzed.
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Here is the photo.
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:45 PM   #15
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if in fact it is from fuel or water in the oil i would strongly recommend you check ALL bearings in that motor. im surprised it didnt start knocking before it gelled up
Trust me after I seen the jelly gooo I pulled it completely apart. The bearings didn't look very good but not as bad as I was expecting after seeing the oil. I feel pretty lucky to tell you the truth.
Some new bearings and a little cleaning it will be good as new.
The only reason I was opening up the engine was just to look for anything funny due to the e-85.
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