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Old 02-24-2012, 12:54 PM   #91
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You're the guy who supported someone, still supports, someone who sued his own country to throw out 180,000 votes, and used his dad's buddies on the Supreme Court to violate the Constitution to do it

You're reality looks more like an illusion you want to believe in.
Yet you supported Al Gore trying everyway possible to throw out Military votes

Date: November 15, 2000
To: FDP Lawyer
From: Mark Herron
Subject: Overseas Absentee Ballot Review and Protest

State and Federal law provides for the counting of "absentee qualified electors overseas" ballots for 10 days after the day of the election or until November 17, 2000. Sections 101.62(7)(a), Florida Statutes defines as "absentee qualified elector overseas" to mean members of the Armed Forces while in the service, members of the merchant marine of the United States and other citizens of the United States, who are permanent residents of the states and are temporarily residing outside of the territories of the United States and the Districts of Columbia. These "absent qualified electors overseas" must also be qualified and registered as provided by law.

You are being asked to review these overseas absentee ballots to make a determination whether acceptance by the supervisor of elections and/or the county canvassing board is legal under Florida law. A challenge to these ballots must be made prior to the time that the ballot is removed from the mailing envelope. The specific statutory requirement for processing the canvass of an absentee ballot including of overseas absentee ballot, are set forth in Section 101.62(2) (c)2. Florida Statutes:

If any elector or candidate present believes that an absentee ballot is illegal due to a defect apparent on the voter's certificate, he or she may at anytime before the ballot is removed from the envelope, file with the canvassing board a protest against the canvcass of the ballot specifying the precinct, the ballot, and the reason he or she believes the ballot to be illegal. A cahllenge based upon a defect in the voterŐs certificate may not be accepted after the ballot has been removed from the mailing envelope.


The form of the voter's certificates on the absentee ballot is set forth in section 101.64(1), Florida Statutes. By statutory provisions, only overseas absentee ballots mailed with an APO, PPO, or foreign postmark shall be considered a ballot. See Section 101.62(7)(c). Florida Statutes.

In reviewing these ballots you should focus on the following:

1. Request for overseas ballots: Determine that the voter affirmatively requested an overseas ballot, and that the signature on the request for an overseas ballot matches the signature of the elector on the registration books to determine that the elector who requested the overseas ballot is the elector registered. See Section 101.62(4)(a), Florida Statutes.

2. The voter's signature: The ballot envelope must be signed by the voter. The signature of the elector as the voter's certificate should be compared with the signature of the elector of the signature on the registration books to determine that the elector who voted by ballot is the elector registered. See Section 101.68(c)x, Florida Statutes.

3. The ballot is properly witnessed: The absentee ballot envelope must be witnessed by a notary or an attesting witness over the age of eighteen years. You may note that these requirements vary from the statutory language from the Section 101.68(2)(c)1, Florida Statutes. Certain statutory requirements in that section were not proclaimed by the Justice Department pursuant to Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, Sec. DE 98-13.

4. The ballot is postmarked: With respect to absentee ballots mailed by absolute qualified electors overseas only those ballots mailed with an APO, PPO, or foreign postmark shall be considered valid. See Section101.62(7)(c), Florida Statutes. This statutory provision varies from rule 15-2.013(7), Florida Administrative Code, which provides overseas absentee ballots may be accepted if "postmarked or signed and dated no later than the date of the federal election."

5. The elector has not already voted (duplicate ballot). In some instances, an absent qualified elector overseas may have received two absentee ballots and previously submitted another ballot. No elector is entitled to vote twice. (Please insert appropriate Fl. xxx.)


To assist your review, we have attached the following:

1. A review Federal Postal regulations relating to FPO's and PPO's.

2. A protest form to be completed with respect to each absentee ballot challenged.

3. Overseas Ballot Summary of Definitions.



Revised
Overseas Ballot Summary of Definitions

There are 3 different types of overseas ballots that are valid for return at the counties provided they are postmarked on or before November 7th.

1. Federal Write-In ballot
Must be an overseas voter and must be eligible to vote and be registered under State law.
Must have affirmatively requested an absentee ballot in writing and completely filled out request (including signature)
Must comply with State laws applying to regular absentee ballots (such as registration requirements, notification requirements, etc.)
Ballot contains only Federal races, and is considered to be a "backup" system if the regular state absentee ballot fails to arrive.
The intent of the voter in casting the ballot should govern. In other words, minor variations in spelling candidate or party names should be disregarded in ballot counting so long as the intention of the voter can be ascertained.
Must be postmarked as an APO, FPO, or MPO in a foreign country or at a foreign post office.


2. Florida Advance Ballot
Sent out in advance of a regular General Election ballot with state and Federal candidates listed.
Must be an overseas voter and must be eligible to vote and be registered under State law.
Must comply with State laws applying to regular absentee ballots (such as registration requirements, notarization requirements, etc.)
Must have affirmatively requested an absentee ballot in writing and completely filled out request (including signature)
Sent prior to the second (or October) primary elections to all permanent overseas registered voters.
Must comply with all State laws regarding signatures, witness requirements, etc.
Must be postmarked at the APO, FPO or MPO in a foreign country or at a foreign post office.


3. Regular Overseas Ballot
Sent after the second (or October) primary elections to all permanent overseas registered voters and voters requesting an overseas ballot from the county.
Must be an overseas voter and must be eligible to vote and be registered under State law.
Must comply with State laws applying to regular absentee ballots (such as registration requirements, notarization requirements, etc.)
Must have affirmatively requested an absentee ballot in writing and completely filled out request (including signature)
Full ballot with all candidates listed.
Likely would take precedence over any advance or federal ballot also returned.
Must comply with all State laws regarding signatures, witness requirements, etc.
Ballot is designed by the county.
Must be postmarked at an APO, FPO, or MPO in a foreign country or at a foreign post office.


Below are the definitions for points of origin and postmark that are valid for military overseas ballots:

1. APO (Army Post Office) -- A branch of the designated USPS civilian post office, which falls under the jurisdiction of the postmaster of either New York City or San Francisco, that serves either Army or Airforce personnel.

2. FPO (Fleet Post Office) -- A branch of the designated USPS civilian post office, which falls under the jurisdiction of the postmaster of either New York City or San Francisco, that serves Coast Guard, Navy, or Marine Corps personnel.

3. MPO (Military Post Office) -- A branch of a U.S. civil post office, operated by the Army, Navy, Airforce, or Marine Corps to serve military personnel overseas or aboard ships.

4. Military Post Office Cancellation -- A postmark that contains the post office name, state, ZIP Cope, and month, day, and year that the mail xxx was cancelled.



Protest of Overseas Absentee Ballot


As provided in Section 101.68(2)(c)(2), Florida Statutes. I, as an elector in __________ County, Florida, hereby protest against the canvass of the overseas absentee ballot described below:

County: __________________________________________________ __

Precinct: __________________________________________________

The Ballot: ________________________________________________

Name of Voter: _____________________________________________

Address of Voter: __________________________________________

Reason for rejection: ______________________________________



___ Lack of voter signature

___ Lack of affirmative request for absentee ballot

___ Request for absentee ballot not fully filled out

___ Signature on absentee ballot request does not match signature on registration card or on ballot

___ Voter signature on envelope does not match signature on registration card

___ Inadequate witness certification

___ Late postmark (indicate date of actual postmark)

___ Domestic postmark (including Puerto Rico, Guam, etc.)

___ No postmark

___ Voter had previously voted in this election

___ Other



__________________________________

Signature of Person Filing Protest

__________________________________

Print Name

11/15/00
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:00 PM   #92
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Thanks for bringing that up, because it's another lie. Gore lawyers considered having ILLEGAL overseas ballots thrown out, but backed down, while BU$H attorneys actually did fight to throw them away ... in Gore counties so only 18% of the overseas ballots were counted, but fought to count them in BU$H counties so that 63% were counted... And remember, these were all illegal ballots.


The truth is that BU$H actually did throw away military ballots before he sued America to throw out 180,000 more votes.. He's easily the biggest anti-American piece of shit the country has ever seen.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/15/us...ted=all&src=pm
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... the Bush team quickly grasped that the best hope of ensuring victory was the trove of ballots still arriving in the mail from Florida residents living abroad. Over the next 18 days, the Republicans mounted a legal and public relations campaign to persuade canvassing boards in Bush strongholds to waive the state's election laws when counting overseas absentee ballots.Their goal was simple: to count the maximum number of overseas ballots in counties won by Mr. Bush, particularly those with a high concentration of military voters, while seeking to disqualify overseas ballots in counties won by Vice President Al Gore.
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:00 PM   #93
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Naaaa......................GoatTurd has said HUNDREDS times by now, that it was Bush that threw out the military vote
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:02 PM   #94
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Thanks for bringing that up, because it's another lie. Gore lawyers considered having ILLEGAL overseas ballots thrown out, but backed down, while BU$H attorneys actually did fight to throw them away ... in Gore counties so only 18% of the overseas ballots were counted, but fought to count them in BU$H counties so that 63% were counted... And remember, these were all illegal ballots.


The truth is that BU$H actually did throw away military ballots before he sued America to throw out 180,000 more votes.. He's easily the biggest anti-American piece of shit the country has ever seen.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/15/us...ted=all&src=pm

the Bush team quickly grasped that the best hope of ensuring victory was the trove of ballots still arriving in the mail from Florida residents living abroad. Over the next 18 days, the Republicans mounted a legal and public relations campaign to persuade canvassing boards in Bush strongholds to waive the state's election laws when counting overseas absentee ballots.Their goal was simple: to count the maximum number of overseas ballots in counties won by Mr. Bush, particularly those with a high concentration of military voters, while seeking to disqualify overseas ballots in counties won by Vice President Al Gore.
What did I tell you!!!!!!!!!!

ALL BULLSHIT GOATTURD!

DO THE PATRIOTIC THING!
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:04 PM   #95
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The truth is that BU$H actually did throw away military ballots before he sued America to throw out 180,000 more votes.. He's easily the biggest anti-American piece of shit the country has ever seen.
That would be you..............


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Thanks for bringing that up, because it's another lie. Gore lawyers considered having ILLEGAL overseas ballots thrown out, but backed down, while BU$H attorneys actually did fight to throw them away ... in Gore counties so only 18% of the overseas ballots were counted, but fought to count them in BU$H counties so that 63% were counted... And remember, these were all illegal ballots.


The truth is that BU$H actually did throw away military ballots before he sued America to throw out 180,000 more votes.. He's easily the biggest anti-American piece of shit the country has ever seen.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/15/us...ted=all&src=pm
Nope that is not a lie, Al Gore set out to get rid of as many military votes as possible because he and his lawyers knew the military was not favorable to him.

Its that simple.
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Thanks, G. I realize that's all you think have on me, and I'm happy with that : )
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Nope that is not a lie, Al Gore set out to get rid of as many military votes as possible because he and his lawyers knew the military was not favorable to him.

Its that simple.
Gore backed down from doing it while BU$H actually did throw out military ballots. Odd, you hate Gore for backing down but ignore that BU$H really did do it.

Regardless, illegal ballots shouldn't be counted. All of these ballots we're talking about were illegal.
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The other fact is this Gore lost and never at anytime had a lead in Florida not after election night and not after the recount.
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The fact is that when you count all of the 180,000 legal ballots that the US SC threw out in violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment of the Constitution, not just the 60,000 under-votes, Gore won. The other fact I've learned is that none of you care about the Constitution when it goes against what makes you feel good.
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The fact is that when you count all of the 180,000 legal ballots that the US SC threw out in violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment of the Constitution, not just the 60,000 under-votes, Gore won. The other fact I've learned is that none of you care about the Constitution when it goes against what makes you feel good.

Now they were legal. No it went against you so you are all butthurt over it.
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The other fact is this Gore lost and never at anytime had a lead in Florida not after election night and not after the recount.
Another fact is that GoatBitch is a liar...................and a little bitch.
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You're the guy who supported someone, still supports, someone who sued his own country to throw out 180,000 votes, and used his dad's buddies on the Supreme Court to violate the Constitution to do it

You're reality looks more like an illusion you want to believe in.
And......idiot.....how did Obama get into the US Senate?
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Can you blame him for giving away a shitload of money to a charity rather than taxes? Its probably used a hell of alot better than writing a couple extra zeros onto the last part of his tax check.

He is just making a point that he gets away with not having a relatively large tax burden. His point is that he makes a lot of money and he isn't required to pass along the same percentage as all of us on this board to taxes. I think he is saying that its a screwed up deal and until he is REQUIRED to pay it in taxes he will use it for other causes. Any of you that want to show him he is a hypocrite, add a zero or two to your tax check when you send it to the govt in a few months.
What is wrong with you? These douches don't give anything to charity...except your money. They "give" the interest on their investments to charity, keep the asset, then write the donation off on their taxes. They don't lose a dime.

Ted Turner got a blow job from the liberals for going exactly the same thing.
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Now they were legal. No it went against you so you are all butthurt over it.
They were late overseas ballots, and all were illegal. That's exactly what the problem was... Why lie to yourself?
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